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Not like scripted gameplay is a bad thing, but in a game that holds itself on action and killing not have obligatory kills is a bit strange. Not unwelcome, just strange.
Because the entire compaign is just a giant holding your hand through the park sort of thing. The difficulty option is just how many bullets you want flying at you and how fast you wanna die.
ha, yeah I noticed this too when I let my GF who couldn't even figure out how to shoot at first try the game out. Still, that's only the first level that you can get away with that. Afterwards you WILL die if you don't start getting some shots fired into enemies.
This guy sort of grates on my nerves, but his nonsense aside, this weirds me out to see a game actually designed (albeit the first level) so that you don't need to actually do anything. And it's even more weird to hear so many people defending this sort of thing, like it's not exactly the kind of thing everyone wet their shorts over when Nintendo filed the "Super Guide" patent.
I love his anti-console remarks... warms my PC elitist heart.
That said the whole game isn't that bad, CoD usually has the AI kill everything in the first level as sort of a tutorial. The ship in Modern Warfare was just as bad.
That said the whole game isn't that bad, CoD usually has the AI kill everything in the first level as sort of a tutorial. The ship in Modern Warfare was just as bad.
I watched this video till he revealed himself as a PC Elitist and told me to get the f*** off his channel.
Yeah to be fair, the first mission is usually more of a *tutorial* mission. Later levels you'll just die.
Yeah I was enjoying it until he acted like a dick about half way through.
Anyways, I think I'd find that pretty tough. I'd probably kneejerk reaction every now again and pump a bullet into a guy as he pops up in my face.
Anyways, I think I'd find that pretty tough. I'd probably kneejerk reaction every now again and pump a bullet into a guy as he pops up in my face.
Saying consoles make games shitty is like blaming soccer moms for making all cars not Ferrari Enzos.
On Easy in Halo Reach, pretty much every level where you had someone from Nobel team, you could do the same thing. Hang back, let your invulnerable buddies do all the shooting and move up when enough dead bodies were made.
Always a treat to listen to someone bitch and moan for 14 minutes straight.
Someone quick, get this toolbag a console so he can whine some more about the days of yore in PC Land.
Someone quick, get this toolbag a console so he can whine some more about the days of yore in PC Land.
@ beanderailment
Good analogy, seriously. Many of my super master race PC brethren confuse "dumbed down for consoles" with "dumbed down for mainstream acceptance." Nine times out of ten the latter is responsible, not the former. Even if PCs were still the only place to find Western RPGs and FPS games they would still be streamlined and simplified at this point to try and reach a broader audience, that's just the nature of big budgets and mainstream exposure.
There are "consolized" things that annoy me, of course. Things like big glowing auras around weapons you can pick up to make it easier for those playing from TV distances or the tight and cramped FOV on a lot of recent games because of those same TV distances. Lack of quick save is likely rooted in console development, as is less hotkeys and fucking HUGE UI screens. Analog sticks being used for shooters has slowed the pace of FPS games down and also limited vertical combat, which is probably my biggest gripe with the modern console focus.
"Consolized" usually has to do with technical things, not gameplay, in other words. Gameplay getting simple is mainstreaming, pure and simple.
Now I've ranted, oh dear.
Good analogy, seriously. Many of my super master race PC brethren confuse "dumbed down for consoles" with "dumbed down for mainstream acceptance." Nine times out of ten the latter is responsible, not the former. Even if PCs were still the only place to find Western RPGs and FPS games they would still be streamlined and simplified at this point to try and reach a broader audience, that's just the nature of big budgets and mainstream exposure.
There are "consolized" things that annoy me, of course. Things like big glowing auras around weapons you can pick up to make it easier for those playing from TV distances or the tight and cramped FOV on a lot of recent games because of those same TV distances. Lack of quick save is likely rooted in console development, as is less hotkeys and fucking HUGE UI screens. Analog sticks being used for shooters has slowed the pace of FPS games down and also limited vertical combat, which is probably my biggest gripe with the modern console focus.
"Consolized" usually has to do with technical things, not gameplay, in other words. Gameplay getting simple is mainstreaming, pure and simple.
Now I've ranted, oh dear.
@ Stingingvelvet,
""Consolized" usually has to do with technical things, not gameplay, in other words. Gameplay getting simple is mainstreaming, pure and simple. "
And what made gaming mainstream...? Consoles. That's what that dude in the video would say, at any rate. Not at all disagreeing with you, really. I think people that blame everything bad about gaming on consoles are jackasses just like you seem to think that. So we agree. Just saying.. I wouldn't have used your particular argument. It would feed that sort of troll.
""Consolized" usually has to do with technical things, not gameplay, in other words. Gameplay getting simple is mainstreaming, pure and simple. "
And what made gaming mainstream...? Consoles. That's what that dude in the video would say, at any rate. Not at all disagreeing with you, really. I think people that blame everything bad about gaming on consoles are jackasses just like you seem to think that. So we agree. Just saying.. I wouldn't have used your particular argument. It would feed that sort of troll.
Playing devil's advocate, it is the first level of the game, in which you expect a level of hand-holding. You can still die in it, and you can still kill enemies to move through it faster. But I believe you should have to kill some things regardless, especially in the plane situation.
Why was he even in hardened? If he's so hardcore he would've just played everything on veteran and never notice it. :P
Aside from that, is it really bad that your squad's AI actually kills people? I mean, who hasn't bitched about them being useless in other games?.
Aside from that, is it really bad that your squad's AI actually kills people? I mean, who hasn't bitched about them being useless in other games?.
This guy is such a pompous asshole that i'm sure his existence even annoys himself. i want to kill someone every time i hear him say COD BLOPS
This guy is such a pompous asshole that i'm sure his existence even annoys himself. i want to kill someone every time i hear him say COD BLOPS
As it has been said, the first level has traditionally been a hand-holder in CoD especially since it is almost always a very big set-piece - lots of intensity and a quick pace is what they are going for I think. The whole point is to draw you in, it's the hook that's supposed to get you immersed, and nothing breaks immersion like dying, especially by things that aren't your fault (I'm looking at the explosions while running to the helicopter, one of the bigger critiques of battlefield was that those random explosions did kill you and not your squad-mates so you couldn't do much other than sprint and pray you'd get through). That being said, if you can auto-playthrough on the hard difficulty (especially if you can on the hardest) then that does ruin the point of Hard-Mode - challenging your skills.
p.s. lolz at his nerd-rage at console gamers
p.s. lolz at his nerd-rage at console gamers
A lot of the scenes in the game are like this. It's a little depressing, but then Veteran tells you to fuck off when you try not shooting. I guess that's the only way to get challenge.
If I was strapped to a chair being tortured by some mystery captor, I'd omit any unnecessary deaths from my flashbacks as well :P
This guy thinks hes the shit lol.
There was 1 dude left alive when he blamed the console gaming. Which is the reason the event did not trigger... dipshit.
This guy thinks hes the man. It's kinda sad.
There was 1 dude left alive when he blamed the console gaming. Which is the reason the event did not trigger... dipshit.
This guy thinks hes the man. It's kinda sad.
Hilarious! Thanks for posting... definitely a good way to convince my broke ass that I don't need this game, lol.
Its not elitism, its frustration at having design decisions limited by consoles.
I don't hate a guy for wanting a platform that runs the games he wants to play without having to worry about the hardware/drivers, i don't hate a developer for choosing to design for a popular platform that you don't have to test for massive different factors of hardware.
Its when they release these multiplatform games that design is limited by the consoles, its like having an xbox360 and all the games you can pick are designed to run on a psp as well.
I don't hate a guy for wanting a platform that runs the games he wants to play without having to worry about the hardware/drivers, i don't hate a developer for choosing to design for a popular platform that you don't have to test for massive different factors of hardware.
Its when they release these multiplatform games that design is limited by the consoles, its like having an xbox360 and all the games you can pick are designed to run on a psp as well.
I'm about as PC elitist as it gets, but it has to be said:
Things I blame consoles for:
Glowing auras around items
Minimizing keys used for controls
Autoaim
goofy graphical limitation
Things I blame mainstreaming for:
dumbed down gameplay
scripted sequences
Things I blame bad programmers for:
shitty scripting
Don't blame one thing for something thats someone elses fault.
Things I blame consoles for:
Glowing auras around items
Minimizing keys used for controls
Autoaim
goofy graphical limitation
Things I blame mainstreaming for:
dumbed down gameplay
scripted sequences
Things I blame bad programmers for:
shitty scripting
Don't blame one thing for something thats someone elses fault.
i dont really understand what the problem is, why shouldn't your allies be able to kill enemies?
or more importantly why is this annouced as completing a mission w/o firing when he needed to kill someone in order to finish it?
anyway, they give you the choice, and thats what games should be about. if you wanna take 15mins to finish a 5 mins mission because you dont want to kill enemies that should be fine.
or more importantly why is this annouced as completing a mission w/o firing when he needed to kill someone in order to finish it?
anyway, they give you the choice, and thats what games should be about. if you wanna take 15mins to finish a 5 mins mission because you dont want to kill enemies that should be fine.
Is this the same game I played? I couldn't get my allies to do dick. They'd ignore enemies just a few feet away, and those same enemies would return the favor and shoot past them, at me.
Does Ubisoft know that Treyarch just lifted the AI code right out of Ghost Recon 2?
Does Ubisoft know that Treyarch just lifted the AI code right out of Ghost Recon 2?
I don't know what the fuss is about. A tutorial level that explains the basics and you can't die. Seems like the typical first level to me. Afterwards the game can be pretty tough. Unfortunately it's not because of a great AI but the sheer mass that you have to mow down.
Now, CoD is not the type of FPS I like. Less is sometimes more. And I really like a clever AI more than 100 of dumb ones that are just running from point A to B or shooting from point C. It's pretty stupid that they didn't came up with something. Replay value tends to get to zero.
Do I blame consoles for dumbed down gameplay? Yes, but not in a typical FPS or Platform game. Sadly, new games are so extremely scripted that I sometimes don't even think I play the game. Last time I nerdraged about this was in Enslaved where every fucking jump was scripted.SERIOUSLY??
Thing is, developers are just getting lazy. You can't blame a console for everything. Remember the time when Nintendo and Sega were the kings? Games were hard as hell. Playing through a game was a BIIIG accomplishment.
Now, CoD is not the type of FPS I like. Less is sometimes more. And I really like a clever AI more than 100 of dumb ones that are just running from point A to B or shooting from point C. It's pretty stupid that they didn't came up with something. Replay value tends to get to zero.
Do I blame consoles for dumbed down gameplay? Yes, but not in a typical FPS or Platform game. Sadly, new games are so extremely scripted that I sometimes don't even think I play the game. Last time I nerdraged about this was in Enslaved where every fucking jump was scripted.SERIOUSLY??
Thing is, developers are just getting lazy. You can't blame a console for everything. Remember the time when Nintendo and Sega were the kings? Games were hard as hell. Playing through a game was a BIIIG accomplishment.
First levels are like tutorial levels anyway.
You are with a team, which one would be more realistic:
a) Your team pretends not to be able to shoot the enemies for you to shoot them, acting like horrible soldiers.
b) Your team trying to finish the mission although you act like a pussy and not help the situation.
Now I now, your lack of contribution to the fight should have some consequences, some of which might result in the killing of your teammates, than we have problems,
a) As there should be a gameover if the teammate is key in future events: this would result in people bitching and moaning, they would blame the NPC for dying and causing a gameover. Some even would argue the game plot should change. Yeah right, every game should have gazillion pages of scripts to cater for your experimenting spirit.
b) Non-important teammates dying without gameover: People would moan and bitch because it didn't affect your game.
c) You dying: Now, you do die in later levels, this was just like a cinematic instruction level. (Actually I don't own the game, I am deducing this from other people's comments..
You are with a team, which one would be more realistic:
a) Your team pretends not to be able to shoot the enemies for you to shoot them, acting like horrible soldiers.
b) Your team trying to finish the mission although you act like a pussy and not help the situation.
Now I now, your lack of contribution to the fight should have some consequences, some of which might result in the killing of your teammates, than we have problems,
a) As there should be a gameover if the teammate is key in future events: this would result in people bitching and moaning, they would blame the NPC for dying and causing a gameover. Some even would argue the game plot should change. Yeah right, every game should have gazillion pages of scripts to cater for your experimenting spirit.
b) Non-important teammates dying without gameover: People would moan and bitch because it didn't affect your game.
c) You dying: Now, you do die in later levels, this was just like a cinematic instruction level. (Actually I don't own the game, I am deducing this from other people's comments..
The guy's a PC elitist, but not a PC gamer. To simply put he's just another douche of a retard. I myself, am a proud PC gamer but wow, a real asshole found, he should never get a hand on Brink when it comes out.
On the lighter note, on the tenth or the eleventh minute of the vid, hilarious stuff. He gives some tip where "keep sidestepping to win against ai's", only to be answered with many consecutive hits. Way to go smartass.
On the lighter note, on the tenth or the eleventh minute of the vid, hilarious stuff. He gives some tip where "keep sidestepping to win against ai's", only to be answered with many consecutive hits. Way to go smartass.
OMG. This. is. the. future. The game practically PLAYS ITSELF. This is wonderful news! I can only hope that even further down the road that gamers wont even NEED a controller and they can just flail around like idiots while the game PLAYS ITSELF.
I would like to propose this.
Stop being a fucking elitist and just enjoy the games/consoles that you do. Don't worry about what other people play and like.
Stop being a fucking elitist and just enjoy the games/consoles that you do. Don't worry about what other people play and like.
I stopped watching when he started being an elitist fuck. He's blaming consoles for this? I had none of the scripting issues on 360, and god forbid a game have competent AI that actually kill enemies (y'know, like real teammates would do in that situation). Stop blaming consoles when the developers are to blame, Treyarch handed out a shitty PC port, it has nothing to do consoles. Fuckers act like PC is the only way to play games ever, even though consoles are a hell of a lot simpler and more user friendly.
For fucks sake, though, why are people complaining about AI that actually help you? Isn't this supposed to be a simulation of war? In war, your partners will kill fuckers if you don't, are we all expecting to have some AI shell that shoots blanks and never kills anything just so the player will be more involved?
For fucks sake, though, why are people complaining about AI that actually help you? Isn't this supposed to be a simulation of war? In war, your partners will kill fuckers if you don't, are we all expecting to have some AI shell that shoots blanks and never kills anything just so the player will be more involved?
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