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much and all as I usually agree with everything you say Jim, and I usually have you on a pedestal as the social commentator for my demographic of British culture I have to say WTF with the BBC bashing?!
Whether you like it or not they make more original programmes than any other channel and bar last years seemingly endless list of sub-standard catchphrase based sketch shows, the majority of their programming is done to a very high standard.
If it wasn't for the BBC, all the other channels wouldn't have them to use as a standard of programming and we would be in a similar state to America with endless political party funded channels and the same re-runs of two and a half men playing 3 to 4 times a day. Sort it out geeza!
Whether you like it or not they make more original programmes than any other channel and bar last years seemingly endless list of sub-standard catchphrase based sketch shows, the majority of their programming is done to a very high standard.
If it wasn't for the BBC, all the other channels wouldn't have them to use as a standard of programming and we would be in a similar state to America with endless political party funded channels and the same re-runs of two and a half men playing 3 to 4 times a day. Sort it out geeza!
I would play a bargain hunter game, that host is a pimp. I'd buy King George III's bed pan for 20 pounds and auction it off for 200.
double2: Sorry to disappoint you in this instance, but the BBC is terrible. Compare its output -- mostly antique and home buying shows -- over the past few years to say, Channel 4, with its documentaries, fine comedy like Peep Show and general wider appeal, and the BeeB finds itself lacking.
The only shows of recent time that I can remember being worthy are Absolute Power and QI.
The only shows of recent time that I can remember being worthy are Absolute Power and QI.
Jim! James! Jimmy! Jam-Jams baby!
You watch too much daytime TV...have you forgotten the excellence that is Top Gear, Blue Planet, Panorama (especially the one on scientology), Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Life on Mars, the real hustle etc... they're just a few off of the top of my head. Peep show has become progressively less funny in the last series and channel four now seem to wholely rely on such shit high processed shows such as 8 out of 10 cats and the friday night project and dare I mention the infamous Big Brother?
Sorry, I feel quite stongly about this.
You watch too much daytime TV...have you forgotten the excellence that is Top Gear, Blue Planet, Panorama (especially the one on scientology), Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Life on Mars, the real hustle etc... they're just a few off of the top of my head. Peep show has become progressively less funny in the last series and channel four now seem to wholely rely on such shit high processed shows such as 8 out of 10 cats and the friday night project and dare I mention the infamous Big Brother?
Sorry, I feel quite stongly about this.
Panorama and Buzzcocks I'll give you, but the rest I can take or leave. Also, I won't deny that Channel 4 has its fair share of pap, but it can justify it with the fact that its also given us shows like Black Books, Spaced, Phoenix Nights, Nathan Barley, etc.
And in my opinion, Peep Show's last series was just as good as all the others, if not even better in some places.
The BBC cannot justify itself until it removes the stupid license fees and moves into adveritising like a real TV station, and stops showing tennis on BBC 1 and 2 while giving complete deference to all its sports coverage. Sorry, but its held to a higher standard than other TV stations because of the way if forces you to give it money. If it didn't do that, I wouldn't hold it as accountable as I do.
And in my opinion, Peep Show's last series was just as good as all the others, if not even better in some places.
The BBC cannot justify itself until it removes the stupid license fees and moves into adveritising like a real TV station, and stops showing tennis on BBC 1 and 2 while giving complete deference to all its sports coverage. Sorry, but its held to a higher standard than other TV stations because of the way if forces you to give it money. If it didn't do that, I wouldn't hold it as accountable as I do.
Jim
You see the problem here is I'm right and you're wrong :p Ok, ok you make a good argument. I will agree to disagree. Although you have just broken my theory that you are my tyler durden, i.e me writing blogs in my sleep as this is the first time I have ever disagreed with any of your opinions. Never mind, it's probably a win for my mental health.
You see the problem here is I'm right and you're wrong :p Ok, ok you make a good argument. I will agree to disagree. Although you have just broken my theory that you are my tyler durden, i.e me writing blogs in my sleep as this is the first time I have ever disagreed with any of your opinions. Never mind, it's probably a win for my mental health.
Sterling is the fucking man. I'm waiting for Ready Steady Cook, with waggle. Cooking Mama aint got nothing on Ainsley.
I agree, the BBC sucks. They seem to catch up on trends from other channels late and make their own poor version of a similar programme. I saw Panorama the other day and it was only like 25 minutes long, what the hell? It was also quite sensationalist at times and they didn't seem to be very neutral, some of the cheesey scenes were laughable and this was a programme about severe violence.
The good shows like Buzzcocks and such have been around for a long time and still have the same writers. Back in the days when the BBC had great comedy on 2.
Ainsley Harriot is enough to have a serious vendetta against the BBC.
Their production standard is pretty high though. There's the occasioanl "shakey artsy camera" programme but not as much as other channels.
If I watch any TV I usually watch the channel 4 channels or even sometimes....Channel 5! Come on, that extraordinary people show was pretty interesting. But apart from that TV sucks now days especially in comedy. TV is lacking a lot of good comedies. Phone Jacker?! Seriously?
The good shows like Buzzcocks and such have been around for a long time and still have the same writers. Back in the days when the BBC had great comedy on 2.
Ainsley Harriot is enough to have a serious vendetta against the BBC.
Their production standard is pretty high though. There's the occasioanl "shakey artsy camera" programme but not as much as other channels.
If I watch any TV I usually watch the channel 4 channels or even sometimes....Channel 5! Come on, that extraordinary people show was pretty interesting. But apart from that TV sucks now days especially in comedy. TV is lacking a lot of good comedies. Phone Jacker?! Seriously?
The last AAA comedy from the UK was The IT Crowd. Fucking ace! And the DVD menu is amazing, it's all set out like an 80s computer game! And on top of that the first episode has the option of 1337 subtitles for the full duration with loads of geeky internet/video game references (even to b3ta.com, my motherland! woo yay!)
Jim, the only reason I watch BBC is because of the no adverts. If News 24 started breaking for commercials every 15 minutes I'd probably sell my telly, that and Top Gear are the only things I actually watch. As for their games, I'm hoping they're going to set up an actual studio rather than just whore off a bunch of IPs to be made into platformers. I have a feeling Aunty Beeb would do alright were she to try her hand at making original games. Hasn't there been at least one Little Britain game already?
I was just thinking the other day that it would be awesome if there were a dozen games about Nelson Mandela. Jackpot!
Yeah, the IT Crowd sucked. Which is a shame, since the guy from Darkplace was on it, and Darkplace was hilarious.
I hope this is videoGaiden. I don't remember ever seeing that on BBC here in England. I thought it was only aired in Scotland.
I hope this is videoGaiden. I don't remember ever seeing that on BBC here in England. I thought it was only aired in Scotland.
Aww Jim, the IT crowd was funny... a bit... kinda like Mighty Boosh was funny.... a bit.
@double2, I agree the beep has good points. but for £50 a year i could live with adverts. and IMHO (With the M standing for My very firmly) Channel 4 provides me more entertainment. Admittedly the bbc online is much better, and good to not have adverts on, but I can live with them.
ITV can go fuck itself, or have an illegitimate child with channel 5 called UKTV (excluding UKTV History: 24hour WW2) and go live in the arctic circle. Channel 4 does tend to push the boundaries much more, take more risks and as such get the better comedies and documentaries. the BBC seems to lagg a bit behind, and goes for the safer, but still good options.
My bet is BBC tetris... with added edutainment.
@double2, I agree the beep has good points. but for £50 a year i could live with adverts. and IMHO (With the M standing for My very firmly) Channel 4 provides me more entertainment. Admittedly the bbc online is much better, and good to not have adverts on, but I can live with them.
ITV can go fuck itself, or have an illegitimate child with channel 5 called UKTV (excluding UKTV History: 24hour WW2) and go live in the arctic circle. Channel 4 does tend to push the boundaries much more, take more risks and as such get the better comedies and documentaries. the BBC seems to lagg a bit behind, and goes for the safer, but still good options.
My bet is BBC tetris... with added edutainment.
BBC four is good, nice high brow stuff. BBC also brings me lots of lovely nature documentaries. Other than that it's pretty poor, especially all the high concept drama which they're churning out, which mostly sucks. I've heard life on mars is good, but people say that about doctor fricking who too.
@Alex: But BBC has Strictly Come Dancing
I can't remember the last good comedy I saw on BBC. UK Gold has some great classics, but on the main channels, I dunno. Top Gear and Buzzcocks is pretty much all I'd watch BBC for.
I can't remember the last good comedy I saw on BBC. UK Gold has some great classics, but on the main channels, I dunno. Top Gear and Buzzcocks is pretty much all I'd watch BBC for.
Nearly ALL television is a waste of time and scum these days. But Channel 4 has one or two decent things amongst the filth. That is why it wins.
And I cannot believe there are people who will gladly pay an exorbitant license fee (that should be illegal anyway) just so they can watch uninterrupted "Boot Sale Challenge LOL"
And I cannot believe there are people who will gladly pay an exorbitant license fee (that should be illegal anyway) just so they can watch uninterrupted "Boot Sale Challenge LOL"
The IT crowd wasn't that bad, it had some pretty funny bits. Darkplace is probably the last good comedy I can remember. I waited ages for that DVD but it was worth it. Can't wait for Deano's After Dark.
Think of all the great comedies that came before though
The Day Today/Brasseye, Alan Partridge, Friday Night Armastice, Armando Ianucci Shows, Fist of Fun, TMWRNJ. Thats all from just one group of comedians. Armando Ianucci is fantastic, as was Chris Morris. Although Blue Jam was weird, I liked the TV series more.
Oh almost forgot to mention is again. Look at the BBC's CG team. I think BBC CGI is some of the worst anywhere. If you need an idea of what their games will be like just remember...Fightbox. *prejectile vomits*
Think of all the great comedies that came before though
The Day Today/Brasseye, Alan Partridge, Friday Night Armastice, Armando Ianucci Shows, Fist of Fun, TMWRNJ. Thats all from just one group of comedians. Armando Ianucci is fantastic, as was Chris Morris. Although Blue Jam was weird, I liked the TV series more.
Oh almost forgot to mention is again. Look at the BBC's CG team. I think BBC CGI is some of the worst anywhere. If you need an idea of what their games will be like just remember...Fightbox. *prejectile vomits*
haha, good point on the shocking CGI. The doctor who CGI is moderatly better but it's certainly not hollywood.
Oh and if you're listing good comedy, may I remind you of TV Go Home's very own Charly Brooker and his current venture Screenwipe which basically just rips the piss out of all TV and how shit it is. Legendary stuff, and back for a new series on BBC 4 in autumn! Kick ass!
Oh and if you're listing good comedy, may I remind you of TV Go Home's very own Charly Brooker and his current venture Screenwipe which basically just rips the piss out of all TV and how shit it is. Legendary stuff, and back for a new series on BBC 4 in autumn! Kick ass!
Ah my recent lack of interest in destructoid is confirmed. What a waste of bits. I guess I'll stop reading it.
To all who say that the last decent comedy was Darkplace, then you have to check out Nathan Barley. It's pretty close to the bone, but is tragically funny in places. If we have to put with Big Brother for eight weeks to fund this, Modern Toss and Peep Show then that's fine by me.
Fonejacker is a huge disappointment.
The BBC is an institution and like the NHS should be beyond reproach to UK/world citizens.
Fonejacker is a huge disappointment.
The BBC is an institution and like the NHS should be beyond reproach to UK/world citizens.
Considering how we have to pay the TV license every year to these greedy bastards, we should get these games for free. =Y
This can mean one thing, though: a Doctor Who game of some sort.
This can mean one thing, though: a Doctor Who game of some sort.
OH YOU CRAZY BRITS!
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
*I am just bored cause I can add nothing of value to this topic
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
*I am just bored cause I can add nothing of value to this topic
@ Jim Lolz
Also, did ya'll notice they announced building 7 of teh wtc collapsed almost ten minutes before it fell? Don't mean to get all conspiracy theorist on ya'll but hmmmmmmm?
Also, did ya'll notice they announced building 7 of teh wtc collapsed almost ten minutes before it fell? Don't mean to get all conspiracy theorist on ya'll but hmmmmmmm?
Jim Jim Jim, you cannot possibly be using Channel 4 as an example of quality television, those cheap fuckers are responsible for the birth of "Reality TV", they brought Big Brother to the world, there can be no forgiveness for that. Have you seen the gimps who work for Channel 4, they all look like Nathan Barley, they're clueless morons, Channel 4 pumps out more crap than Channel 5, but because Channel 4 thinks it's cool, they can get away with it by calling it ironic.
Whilst the BBC are theiving bastards, they are nowhere near the level of crapness that Channel 4 currently occupy.
Also, you had to have a beard in order to own a BBC computer, basically you had to look like 70's George Lucas, so if nothing else, the legacy of the BBC computer and it's three games is something to respect.
Whilst the BBC are theiving bastards, they are nowhere near the level of crapness that Channel 4 currently occupy.
Also, you had to have a beard in order to own a BBC computer, basically you had to look like 70's George Lucas, so if nothing else, the legacy of the BBC computer and it's three games is something to respect.
Yes, I am using Channel 4 as an example. Having utter, utter shit does not disqualify the actual good television it has.
The BBC might not have shows AS terrible as Big Brother, but they also don't have anything as good as some of C4's best. Peep Show pretty much slaughters all and is probably the only new TV series I've watched all year. In fact I'm sure it is.
British TV on the whole, I must confess, is fucking awful.
The BBC might not have shows AS terrible as Big Brother, but they also don't have anything as good as some of C4's best. Peep Show pretty much slaughters all and is probably the only new TV series I've watched all year. In fact I'm sure it is.
British TV on the whole, I must confess, is fucking awful.
man, QI makes up for everything! i would go as far as to say it is the single best programme on TV. If only they'd get Bill Bailey on more it would be perfect.
jim if you think bbc is shit come to america. most of my favorite tv shows are british (traffic, the office, extras, coupling (my gf likes it I swear), Chef! etc
I like Doctor Who and The Apprentice personally.
Apart from that I don't watch TV much anymore- videogames seem to offer more entertainment these days.
Apart from that I don't watch TV much anymore- videogames seem to offer more entertainment these days.
Channel 4 also had the unapreciated Dark Place, but they treated this gem like utter shit, didn't give it a DVD release for a long long time and didn't give it a second series. Whilst the consistently unfunny Green Wing is given the red carpet teatment.
Also Jim, I think Peep Show is a quality programme but I personally don't like it, I'm not huge fans of Mitchem & Webb or whatever their called, but I quite liked their show which appeared on BBC 2, as did the Mighty Boosh, The Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm, you can't compare the BBC to Channel 4. What about BBC's wild life programs? BBC 4 sometimes has some interesting stuff.
Then again the BBC does pay Jeremy Clarkson to be an arrogant prick, and a few years ago they actually gave Jim Davidson his own stand up show...you're absolutely right, BBC suck hard.
Also Jim, I think Peep Show is a quality programme but I personally don't like it, I'm not huge fans of Mitchem & Webb or whatever their called, but I quite liked their show which appeared on BBC 2, as did the Mighty Boosh, The Office, Curb Your Enthusiasm, you can't compare the BBC to Channel 4. What about BBC's wild life programs? BBC 4 sometimes has some interesting stuff.
Then again the BBC does pay Jeremy Clarkson to be an arrogant prick, and a few years ago they actually gave Jim Davidson his own stand up show...you're absolutely right, BBC suck hard.
The BBC makes programmes that the other channels wouldn't dare touch because they're not mainstream enough. Planet Earth, for example, is probably the single best piece of television in fuck know how long.Do you think, in these times of low-investment, high-return commercial trash like Big Brother, you'd get a show that both cost a fortune and took over five years to make? Never.
Similarly In Our Time, a genuinely enlightening Radio 4 show about the important markers in modern human evolution would never get commissioned by a commercial station. Fuck me, Jim the list is endless. The impartiality of the BBC is a fucking godsend. If you get your wish of a commercial beeb then we're all going to be much worse off. Don't base your opinion of the quality of BBC content on BBC1 and 2's comedy output. Yeah, British comedy is shite at the moment. Yeah, BBC1 and 2 put out lowest common denominator braindeath television. But that's not all the Beeb do.
Their journalism is considered among the best in the world. Their wildlife documentaries are the best there is out there, full stop, if you disagree you're wrong, shut up. Their radio covers just about every genre of music ever composed. Their website is one of the most popular sites on the internet. You maybe need to look a bit harder at what they make available before casting judgment like this because it seems to me that you're missing out on getting your tenner a month's worth.
Similarly In Our Time, a genuinely enlightening Radio 4 show about the important markers in modern human evolution would never get commissioned by a commercial station. Fuck me, Jim the list is endless. The impartiality of the BBC is a fucking godsend. If you get your wish of a commercial beeb then we're all going to be much worse off. Don't base your opinion of the quality of BBC content on BBC1 and 2's comedy output. Yeah, British comedy is shite at the moment. Yeah, BBC1 and 2 put out lowest common denominator braindeath television. But that's not all the Beeb do.
Their journalism is considered among the best in the world. Their wildlife documentaries are the best there is out there, full stop, if you disagree you're wrong, shut up. Their radio covers just about every genre of music ever composed. Their website is one of the most popular sites on the internet. You maybe need to look a bit harder at what they make available before casting judgment like this because it seems to me that you're missing out on getting your tenner a month's worth.
@codballs: Planet Earth FTW!!!! Oh, and get of Jim, most of his posts are good, excluding teh slobbing of dynasty warriors balls.
I guess I kind of jumped the gun too. I only ever really see TV when I'm eating and thats only 2 times a day for short periods, sometimes on odd occasion.. I don't even bother read the TV guide anymore so I won't really see a show in the evening unless someone mentions it or I see it advertised.
I think they should balance out their advertising though. Around primetime - 8pm I don't see many adverts for anything besides the same kind of shows that are on at that time. So I miss out on other stuff. I know/meet quite a few people who do the same as me but maybe that's just my age group.
I think they should balance out their advertising though. Around primetime - 8pm I don't see many adverts for anything besides the same kind of shows that are on at that time. So I miss out on other stuff. I know/meet quite a few people who do the same as me but maybe that's just my age group.
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