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What studios really need are silent partners. Cant they do like in The producers and start banging old women to get funding... and then sing about hitler.
Wow, how sad. I loved BF2 and played the hell out of it with my brother and friends. I'd love to play BF3 on this generations consoles.
I'm just amazed that one of the biggest industries of today, doesn't have any labour unions to protect the employees...
At least on the bright side we have some closure on Battlefront 3. And who knows, maybe in few years time the series will be brought back.
Aha! I knew Battlefront 3 had to be held back otherwise it would have been released a long time ago. God damned moneymongering bastards.I just cannot stand greed or those who are excessively greedy(publishers).
To all those publishers' who think they are top shit; May you suffer the bites of a thousand gnats daily and be greeted with disgust wherever you go. May you die with no one to comfort you and with your accounts empty. Also, suck butter from my ass publishers. That is all.
To all those publishers' who think they are top shit; May you suffer the bites of a thousand gnats daily and be greeted with disgust wherever you go. May you die with no one to comfort you and with your accounts empty. Also, suck butter from my ass publishers. That is all.
So instead of Battlefront we get Force Unleashed 1,2, more Lego games than I know what to with, and a MMO that might or might not be free to play in six months?
Good job, LucasArts. Good job being mildly successful with mildly entertaining games and pissing you profits away on an MMO.
Good job, LucasArts. Good job being mildly successful with mildly entertaining games and pissing you profits away on an MMO.
@ Glitch
Where have you been? SWBF3 has been canned for years now since Free Radical went under. What is news to everyone is why Free Radical went under which was solely because LucasArts screwed them so badly on the deal.
Most people thought it was Haze's flop that did them in. Apparently we have dear LucasArts to blame. As if their Kinect game wasn't enough to shame them.
Where have you been? SWBF3 has been canned for years now since Free Radical went under. What is news to everyone is why Free Radical went under which was solely because LucasArts screwed them so badly on the deal.
Most people thought it was Haze's flop that did them in. Apparently we have dear LucasArts to blame. As if their Kinect game wasn't enough to shame them.
Well, Lucas Arts has consistently been able to turn anything they have of quality to shit. It makes sense that the game departments would be following that tradition.
I buy it. Unpleasant lawyers ruin many awesome things, and unfortunately too many of us are unpleasant. And Ellis is correct, contracts are useless if you don't have the resources for a drawn out legal battle, and even if they did, they can't compete with the resources LucasArts has.
Here's to studios finding a way to make it work without publishers.
Here's to studios finding a way to make it work without publishers.
And this is why there won't be a Timesplitters 4.
Or it'll be a DLC-ridden piece of shit.
Thanks LucasArts.
Or it'll be a DLC-ridden piece of shit.
Thanks LucasArts.
what I read from this:
Publisher/client was being difficult, we felt that they were setting us up, so we responded by asking our team to kill themselves, working crazy hours, to try to accomplish what cannot be accomplished.
And thinking that they are the good guys in this.
Publisher/client was being difficult, we felt that they were setting us up, so we responded by asking our team to kill themselves, working crazy hours, to try to accomplish what cannot be accomplished.
And thinking that they are the good guys in this.
@mighty_marcos
Really? You must be a WAY better reader than I am then. What I read was the words, written in the article. I don't see any of them saying anything like that.
Really? You must be a WAY better reader than I am then. What I read was the words, written in the article. I don't see any of them saying anything like that.
So I saw SWBF2 on Steam for pretty cheap and thought about getting it, but I cant imagine there's still a very active community...can any speak towards this? Do you think its worth picking up without the promise of mp? I do love me some battlefront and it looks like 2 is as good as its gonna be for the foreseeable future.
What started making Free Radical come public with all this crap? First the "FPS don't make money" crap, and now this?
@jetpacksheep It would be hard for there to be a Kickstarter for Battlefront 3, as pretty sure Lucasarts holds the rights for it and it's Star Wars so it would be ridiculously expensive for the license. Timesplitters 4 would be much more likely, but I don't know who owns the rights for TS.
@quantum
don't get it, it doesn't run very well from my expereince, esp if you have win7 and are running on an hd cable.
@marcos
don't post high.
@article
someone should have just saved and leaked the finished versions of the game to the internet. would have been hilarious. you know, hack the planet and all that good stuff.
don't get it, it doesn't run very well from my expereince, esp if you have win7 and are running on an hd cable.
@marcos
don't post high.
@article
someone should have just saved and leaked the finished versions of the game to the internet. would have been hilarious. you know, hack the planet and all that good stuff.
Seeing that Battlefront 3 alpha always tears at me because it looked like it really fixed what was wrong with Battlefront 2.
Do not get me wrong Battlefront 2 is awesome but it had too many grenade-spam-choke-point interior maps, its scale was reigned back from the first and all flying vehicles were removed from land maps except for Hoth.
It seriously seems like Lucasarts killed all their good StarWars IP games.
Do not get me wrong Battlefront 2 is awesome but it had too many grenade-spam-choke-point interior maps, its scale was reigned back from the first and all flying vehicles were removed from land maps except for Hoth.
It seriously seems like Lucasarts killed all their good StarWars IP games.
@quantum
The game is still active (Hell even on PS2), but the PC port has some major frame-rate issues. Get it if you're feeling a little nostalgic.
The game is still active (Hell even on PS2), but the PC port has some major frame-rate issues. Get it if you're feeling a little nostalgic.
Describing people as psychopaths because they aren't funding your game reveals a problematic level of entitlement.
But who knows maybe they were stacking dead babies in their basement.
But who knows maybe they were stacking dead babies in their basement.
From the house of TIE fighter to the house of unpleasant lawyers. How things can change in 18 years. Oh well, Lucasarts has been dead for years.
I'm no fan of Star Wars but damn, really? the Kinect game gets pushed through but the beloved Battlefront series gets held back? I have to believe there's something else that's not being said.
@ Fearzone
It has been common that many CEOs for companies have tendencies that lean heavily towards being very sociopaths.
Plus, having a company suddenly lawyer up when there's been a good relationship with the developer as well as essentially ignoring a contract are downright awful business practices. If that makes them entitled then I hope we all act so entitled. How dare we expect a contract to be held to once it's signed, right?
It has been common that many CEOs for companies have tendencies that lean heavily towards being very sociopaths.
Plus, having a company suddenly lawyer up when there's been a good relationship with the developer as well as essentially ignoring a contract are downright awful business practices. If that makes them entitled then I hope we all act so entitled. How dare we expect a contract to be held to once it's signed, right?
And this is one of the reasons I want the current game industry to implode. And by implode I mean get rid of the major publishers or reduce them to the sniveling rat-faces they are with muzzles.
here's the thing.... i generally didn't like Battlefront 1. Sure it was pretty fun, but i wasn't as into it.
then battlefront 2 rolled around and i actually only bought the game to spite my brother (since he couldn't afford it) and HOLY SHIT I WAS ADDICTED! not to the single player, that kinda sucked, but to Galactic Conquest. Which is the only game to date that has actually made me feel like the ultimate conquering general. I don't really want a battlefront 3... i want Galactic Conquest 2 with the ability to free play any battlefields with any factions I want (I want Droids vs. Empire)
ALSO! The other special modes they added like the one where you play as all heroes and villians from the star wars saga (han solo vs. darth maul? SURE! why the fuck not?!) and the "hunt" mode.... hehe... Super Battle Droids vs. Gungans.... best thing ever!
I feel like Battlefront 3 would NEVER be able to top all the mountains of options in Battlefront 2. especially since the general attitude amongst modern developers is "less content, more polygons". maybe it's best if we let it die as we remembered it. besides, they'd probably base it off of the television series and we don't want that do we? :/
then battlefront 2 rolled around and i actually only bought the game to spite my brother (since he couldn't afford it) and HOLY SHIT I WAS ADDICTED! not to the single player, that kinda sucked, but to Galactic Conquest. Which is the only game to date that has actually made me feel like the ultimate conquering general. I don't really want a battlefront 3... i want Galactic Conquest 2 with the ability to free play any battlefields with any factions I want (I want Droids vs. Empire)
ALSO! The other special modes they added like the one where you play as all heroes and villians from the star wars saga (han solo vs. darth maul? SURE! why the fuck not?!) and the "hunt" mode.... hehe... Super Battle Droids vs. Gungans.... best thing ever!
I feel like Battlefront 3 would NEVER be able to top all the mountains of options in Battlefront 2. especially since the general attitude amongst modern developers is "less content, more polygons". maybe it's best if we let it die as we remembered it. besides, they'd probably base it off of the television series and we don't want that do we? :/
Sadly, this generation of consoles was especially promising for something like Battlefront 3, and there's enough EU stuff out there on both Galactic Civil and Clone War stuff to really add in some extra content. I mean, isn't the cartoon still running? There has to be enough battles from that to make another campaign about the soldiers, or at least some new maps.
Sadly, I don't think we'll be seeing any more Republic Commandos, Rogue Squadrons, Battlefronts, Jedi Knights, single player KotORs (which is especially bad because could you imagine how much improvment could be made after TOR has enough updates to give Bioware a feel for how all the classes can be tweaked?), Galaxies (original), or "what could have been for the Force Unleashed"s any time soon from Lucas Arts.
Sadly, I don't think we'll be seeing any more Republic Commandos, Rogue Squadrons, Battlefronts, Jedi Knights, single player KotORs (which is especially bad because could you imagine how much improvment could be made after TOR has enough updates to give Bioware a feel for how all the classes can be tweaked?), Galaxies (original), or "what could have been for the Force Unleashed"s any time soon from Lucas Arts.
@Freakydemon
That's because the industry is setup in such a way that studios can't get unionized.
The problem with the industry is that it's so romanticized that newcomer's are willing to work for free. This creates an abusive relationship between the workers and publishers. The line "Don't like it? There's PLENTY of people out there willing to take your job for you." is a common saying. So common that they drilled it into my head before I finished school.
Say a studio does decide to get unionized. Even if they manage to get away with it during a contract... what chance do you think that studio has of getting another contract admist an industry full of non-unionized studios?
Unionizing in this industry is suicide. Unless the ENTIRE industry gets together and colludes on unionizing as a whole, workers will continue to get abused. It's pretty sad on a large scale that the world's most popular entertainment industry is 50+ years behind when it comes to workers rights.
That's because the industry is setup in such a way that studios can't get unionized.
The problem with the industry is that it's so romanticized that newcomer's are willing to work for free. This creates an abusive relationship between the workers and publishers. The line "Don't like it? There's PLENTY of people out there willing to take your job for you." is a common saying. So common that they drilled it into my head before I finished school.
Say a studio does decide to get unionized. Even if they manage to get away with it during a contract... what chance do you think that studio has of getting another contract admist an industry full of non-unionized studios?
Unionizing in this industry is suicide. Unless the ENTIRE industry gets together and colludes on unionizing as a whole, workers will continue to get abused. It's pretty sad on a large scale that the world's most popular entertainment industry is 50+ years behind when it comes to workers rights.
i liked the first one on ps2 lol. its def a shooter many ppl could get into, imperial scouts were badass i totes rocked that pistol like no other
@Lycan XIII Two different groups, Free Radical is Free Radical. Crytek is Crytek, Crytek merely brought FR. You can't hold one person responsible for one idiot's words. The whole group will not have the same beliefs.
@tristy
i actually got that one on steam a couple years back and finished it rather quickly. i loved lucasarts p n c games. watching a friend play monkey island is what initially got me hooked. well, that and a christmas present of like 20 pc games back in the day, one of which being space quest 4. and battlechess.
i miss battlechess (knight takes knight ftw).
i actually got that one on steam a couple years back and finished it rather quickly. i loved lucasarts p n c games. watching a friend play monkey island is what initially got me hooked. well, that and a christmas present of like 20 pc games back in the day, one of which being space quest 4. and battlechess.
i miss battlechess (knight takes knight ftw).
LucasArts wont fund Battfront 3, which is guaranteed to sell in light of the success of the first two games with only a moderate budget, but they'll sink hundreds of millions into developing and marketing Swtor over 5+ years in a market dominated by WoW and free to play MMO's?
Man this company has fallen really far.
Man this company has fallen really far.
A big shame that it wasn't released. I really enjoyed BF2 and was looking forward to see what could be pulled off with current gen tech. The PS2/ xbox really held it back to be honest.
And this is the reason why I (if I even had the skills for it) would never want to be a videogame developer, these stories make me fear for what's to come.
Remember when LucasArts used to make awesome adventure games and cool Star Wars games? Those were the days.
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