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Who cares? Im still playing Bad company 2 and am haveing a blast, that game is just more fun to play than BF3.
I'd be interested in a platform breakdown of those numbers, but I'd still be depressed by the end of the tally.
Dear god why.
Granted i got the gears of war 3 season pass but that was a fair and straightforward deal.
Granted i got the gears of war 3 season pass but that was a fair and straightforward deal.
Too bad there's no estimate on aimbot subscribers
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/t7201/im_a_hacker_and_i_have_some_information_for_the/ (link is old by now but some may have missed it)
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/t7201/im_a_hacker_and_i_have_some_information_for_the/ (link is old by now but some may have missed it)
None of those 800,000 people even know what The Consumerist is, much less have the mental capacity to vote or discern what a bad company is.
And this is why we can't have nice things, sadly. Enjoy the next generation of subscriptions and DLC for games you already bought, you earned it gamers.`
I don't get why you use 'subscriptions' as a term, cause that's not what is happening here. The deal here is for a season pass, they are calling it something different but it's not a reacurring fee, it's a one time fee for all DLC over the course of a time period... a season fucking pass. Many games have already done this and I see no huge issue with this, the value seems to be there also (sort of, unless you bought karkand before... possibly).
If I hadn't already bought the first DLC, and if I was still playing the game I'd happily buy the rest of the DLC in this one shot fee.
If I hadn't already bought the first DLC, and if I was still playing the game I'd happily buy the rest of the DLC in this one shot fee.
It's not even a subscription, it's a one off payment that gets you all the future DLC (with early access) cheaper than buying them individually, plus it gives you a few extras like bonus xp weekends and guides if that's your thing. I didn't buy it purely because I don't game as much as I used to so I bought CQ on its own. Premium is a really good deal if you plan to play BF3 for the long haul.
people do what ever they please with their money jim, sure it's for a shitty company who's dooming the game industry, but never the less.
I bought it and have no regrets. I play BF3 a hell of a lot and plan to continue playing it a hell of a lot. I have issues with premium (queue priority, it labelling premiums in game) but it's that vs paying less overall for the DLC and having a bunch of extra stuff.
Wow! Those who bought this, are they really that stupid? Why the hell they encouraging this kind of shit??? You really are ready to pay $60 for some USELESS camos and a fucking black knife!?
I bought it. I want the DLC and it makes it cheaper. Battlefield is the only MP series I really enjoy and Bad Company is pretty much dead. This is a much better deal than the Uncharted, Gears and all the other season passes I've seen which were not criticised in the same way. The only beef I have is with the server priority thing.
As for EA being voted the worst company in America. It is absolutely a bad company but I would vote for Bank of America and any number of other companies over EA anyday. I mean even from an entertainment standpoint there are far more ruthless companies in Hollywood.
As for EA being voted the worst company in America. It is absolutely a bad company but I would vote for Bank of America and any number of other companies over EA anyday. I mean even from an entertainment standpoint there are far more ruthless companies in Hollywood.
Well, maybe there's good news here? Like maybe this will show that DLC can be successful a while after a game has been released and publishers will no longer feel the need to cherry pick content off of the disc to sell separately day one. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if they just more frequently took content off of the disc and waited a few months before selling it.
look, it's obvious people are going to flock to this.
for the all the dlc, considering its a one time purchase it's a great deal.
the problem here is the fact that the dlc itself is a bad deal as it is very much overpriced.
you used to get a great expansion for this amount of money,
now the companies think you should be happy they even provide you content without you having to worship them.
they probably even think we should consider it a blessing they're not charging double.
to get back to my original point, it's obvious.
for the all the dlc, considering its a one time purchase it's a great deal.
the problem here is the fact that the dlc itself is a bad deal as it is very much overpriced.
you used to get a great expansion for this amount of money,
now the companies think you should be happy they even provide you content without you having to worship them.
they probably even think we should consider it a blessing they're not charging double.
to get back to my original point, it's obvious.
It's not a sub, it's just a one-time $50 charge. My friend bought me BF3 2 weeks ago and then paid for half of Premium, so I was more than happy to pay just $25 for both BF3 and Premium (which means all future DLC too). But, of course, it's SUPER-FUN to play on the PC with all the awesome cheaters.
Love the series, and if someone wants to give me the option to pay around 20% less on amazing content that I would buy anyway, hell sign me up. Its not a subscription, BF is not an annual series. BF3 plus Premium gives you more content then 2 years worth of CoD games and Elite. BF3= $110 for two years, CoD= $220 for two years.
subscriptions as a bundle of dlc is fine but doing it like this with exclusive weapons, premium server, and spam all over is not.
I wonder if EA has overlooked something that I think Activision overlooked... These "premium" deals are cannibalizing later DLC sales. Worse for them, the quest for immediate profits could be costing them money in the long run.
While they won't release numbers, Activision is supposedly seeing poor DLC sales for Modern Warfare 3, enough that they've already put DLC on sale. (Now, to be fair, Modern Warfare 3 has other problems. Again, while Activision won't release detailed player numbers, players have seen the in-game player counts have dropped faster than has happened with previous titles, and that *current* player counts can run even with or even drop below the number of people currently playing Black Ops. So it could just be that as many people aren't sticking around to buy DLC at all, not that Activision thought Elite would magically increase sales.)
Infinity Ward has also sometimes used their obligation to supply content for Elite as an excuse for delays in other MW3 work. (Which is a bit of a "pick and choose" excuse, as they never seemed to care about failing to meet their *other* Elite obligations. Meeting Elite's obligations only seems to come up when looking for a reason to explain why it takes them months to implement basic fixes, and still haven't fixed problems that are now eight months old.)
While they won't release numbers, Activision is supposedly seeing poor DLC sales for Modern Warfare 3, enough that they've already put DLC on sale. (Now, to be fair, Modern Warfare 3 has other problems. Again, while Activision won't release detailed player numbers, players have seen the in-game player counts have dropped faster than has happened with previous titles, and that *current* player counts can run even with or even drop below the number of people currently playing Black Ops. So it could just be that as many people aren't sticking around to buy DLC at all, not that Activision thought Elite would magically increase sales.)
Infinity Ward has also sometimes used their obligation to supply content for Elite as an excuse for delays in other MW3 work. (Which is a bit of a "pick and choose" excuse, as they never seemed to care about failing to meet their *other* Elite obligations. Meeting Elite's obligations only seems to come up when looking for a reason to explain why it takes them months to implement basic fixes, and still haven't fixed problems that are now eight months old.)
@Baines
Doubtful
If they are like any company they likely figured what they would sell the DLC for, then inflated that price so the premium "discount(s)" bring you right back to what would have been full price anyhow.
Tho it really seems that EAs goal is simply to push games as a service not a commodity. Which works for MMOs ..... but they are applying it to everything under the sun.
Really not sure if I should be more angry with EA for pulling these shenanigans or the 800k who bought into it probably cursing EA the whole time they were happily filling in their CC info.
Doubtful
If they are like any company they likely figured what they would sell the DLC for, then inflated that price so the premium "discount(s)" bring you right back to what would have been full price anyhow.
Tho it really seems that EAs goal is simply to push games as a service not a commodity. Which works for MMOs ..... but they are applying it to everything under the sun.
Really not sure if I should be more angry with EA for pulling these shenanigans or the 800k who bought into it probably cursing EA the whole time they were happily filling in their CC info.
It's funny how everyone going 'derp, idiots!' don't actually know what Battlefield Premium contains.
I dunno what it is! but I'm outraged!
I dunno what it is! but I'm outraged!
Yes I am quite aware of the fact that this isn't a "subscription". If you are smart you don't just jump into things like that you ween your sheep onto them. One step at a time.
Battlefield 3 Premium isn't really that bad though. Either pay $50 for some extras and get all the DLC for $25 less or don't (that is if you don't have B2K). The only problem I actually have with Premium is the priority server access for Premium Members, but at the end of the day it doesn't really change my experience at all.
Still not sure if I'm going to buy it though.
Still not sure if I'm going to buy it though.
I remember when RtCW got seasonal free maps. Trench Toast was awesome! And then there was the completely free Enemy Territory stand-alone MP sequel.
The sheer amount of people buying into this really shocks me.
The sheer amount of people buying into this really shocks me.
@Confederacy
The maps are also extremely overpriced to start with imo. I don't know where companies get off thinking you'll pay 15 bucks for 2 or 3 maps, regardless of how much you play.
let's put some perspective on it. Dawnguard is 20 dollars, these map packs are 15. Dawnguard clearly has more effort and time put into it regardless of how you feel about the Elder Scrolls series and Bethesda. Expanding upon an already massive game, vs. reusing assets and slapping a few guns in for 15 dollars.
I'm leaning more towards map packs should never have gotten to 15 dollars...ever.
The maps are also extremely overpriced to start with imo. I don't know where companies get off thinking you'll pay 15 bucks for 2 or 3 maps, regardless of how much you play.
let's put some perspective on it. Dawnguard is 20 dollars, these map packs are 15. Dawnguard clearly has more effort and time put into it regardless of how you feel about the Elder Scrolls series and Bethesda. Expanding upon an already massive game, vs. reusing assets and slapping a few guns in for 15 dollars.
I'm leaning more towards map packs should never have gotten to 15 dollars...ever.
It's not a subscription. It's just all the expansion packs at a discount. If you like Battlefield 3, it's not a bad deal.
I never buy DLC these days... not so much because of price, just principal. Probably why I'm playing more indie these days.
Remember, AAA games used to sell gangbusters too, and we all know how that turned out.
Huge sales does not a success make. In fact, putting huge sales above everything else is what got us to this point to begin with.
Huge sales does not a success make. In fact, putting huge sales above everything else is what got us to this point to begin with.
lol, I remember before MW3 and B3 came out. All the Battlefield fanboys telling the "dumb COD kids" to enjoy being nickeled and dimed by Activision on pretty much all the gaming sites and youtube.
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