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There is a PC tag on this story. So this is not just a ipad game anymore... for the love of all that is holy Jim, please tell me it is so.
If not i will become an incredibly sad Muad. And i cant think about Holmes teaching a child to ride a bike becuse i just imagine you sneaking up behind him wearing a Hard gay outfit (you look fabolous in it btw)
If not i will become an incredibly sad Muad. And i cant think about Holmes teaching a child to ride a bike becuse i just imagine you sneaking up behind him wearing a Hard gay outfit (you look fabolous in it btw)
@Themuad It's been PC since they first announced it, iPad was announced after.
Also, my that's a cheeky grin on that skellington!
Also, my that's a cheeky grin on that skellington!
I am of the opinion that if remakes charge full price, same as other retail games that are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NEW CONTENT, then the remakes should already include fresh new content in the package. Just remaking graphics =/= warrant a 60 dollar purchase to me. but then again, everyone blew their loads over Ocarina of Time 3DS, and Starfox 64 3DS, so obviously I must be in the minority of thinking that just sprucing up graphics is lazy.
It was always coming to the PC, Themuad. More content for one of my favourite RPG franchises of all time? Sure! As long as it's good content.
I think if the DLC enriches the world and adds to it then I'm all for it. New characters and story lines sound great. Give my quality DLC, like Minerva's Den for example, and I will be more than happy to pay for it.
I, for one, don't think that -all- DLC is a bad thing. If it's cool, significant content, AND the original game stands on its own without the purchase of DLC, I don't really see the problem.
Frankly, though you see a lot of whining about DLC online, publishers wouldn't be pushing DLC business models so hard if it wasn't such a guaranteed money-maker, and it's the consumers' fault for that. The best form of protest you can make about DLC models is to a) not purchase the DLC, and b) not purchase a game that relies on purchasing DLC to feel like a full game. All too often people whine and complain, and then go out and buy the damn DLC anyway.
Frankly, though you see a lot of whining about DLC online, publishers wouldn't be pushing DLC business models so hard if it wasn't such a guaranteed money-maker, and it's the consumers' fault for that. The best form of protest you can make about DLC models is to a) not purchase the DLC, and b) not purchase a game that relies on purchasing DLC to feel like a full game. All too often people whine and complain, and then go out and buy the damn DLC anyway.
Additional content in a BG game sounds more deserving of a DLC price tag than most everything else for sale. I'll be buying the shit out this, and the last few DLCs I've bought were Undead Nightmare and a GoW1 expansion.
If Akira Yamaoka had released new music for Silent Hill 2, and Konami released it as DLC? I'd buy it, I'd buy it hard. I don't know if that's an extraordinary circumstance compared to this, though, don't have a frame of reference.
Depends on if the base game delivers. If the remake is done well, and has all the original content we know and love, only better, then sure I wouldn't mind paying for a little something extra.
@Draxxlith
Is it really? Becuse i went looking for confirmation on that right away but all i heard was rumours and only offical things about the ipad
@Stealth
Even if they sell frilly anime outfits to the characters? How about if they sell a dlc that turns the game into a unpopular jrpg. I know you love those games in a vain attempt at etching out a personality for yourself.
Is it really? Becuse i went looking for confirmation on that right away but all i heard was rumours and only offical things about the ipad
@Stealth
Even if they sell frilly anime outfits to the characters? How about if they sell a dlc that turns the game into a unpopular jrpg. I know you love those games in a vain attempt at etching out a personality for yourself.
I think re-makes should include extra content, or at least add it afterwards but for free, I mean you are already paying more for a game you could get for way cheap or free if you already own it. That being said I don't really mind paid DLC in most cases but I only buy it from devs I want to support (ie not EA)
the original game was pretty big as far as i know
so they can add as much dlc as they want so long as it's extra content.
that is if they don't ask full price for this game.
seeing that this is a remake, they didn't have to create anything from scratch. so a lower starting price seems fair.
so they can add as much dlc as they want so long as it's extra content.
that is if they don't ask full price for this game.
seeing that this is a remake, they didn't have to create anything from scratch. so a lower starting price seems fair.
DLC sucks, lets go back to the Expansion Packs, those where always meaty big chunks of gameplay added to our experiences months after release.
DLC ruined this gaming generation for me and "everything needs multiplayer" state of design.
DLC ruined this gaming generation for me and "everything needs multiplayer" state of design.
"DLC = Downloadable Content, not furry earrings +3. The big guys have overcooked the term with badness. New BG storylines, New characters."
Shut up and take my money!
Shut up and take my money!
I totally disagree with this. BG is a classic game from a by gone era that has been dug up to cash in on. And I think the original game will feel tainted when there is a new NPC in town that asks for your credit card.
Dear Devs, Pubs,
Announce DLC before a game's release, and you've just made me decide to wait an indeterminate amount of time until your inevitable complete edition of said game gets packaged and sold at a steep discount. And that's if I even want your game anymore once the hype train rolls through town.
Baldur's Gate? No problem. I'll roll with my GOG version of the original until then.
P.S. Suck my:
Announce DLC before a game's release, and you've just made me decide to wait an indeterminate amount of time until your inevitable complete edition of said game gets packaged and sold at a steep discount. And that's if I even want your game anymore once the hype train rolls through town.
Baldur's Gate? No problem. I'll roll with my GOG version of the original until then.
P.S. Suck my:
Flashback: Icewind Dale. Trials of the Luremaster. A massive free expansion.
If they had DLC capabilities back then, that sh*t would have been $15. And I probably would have paid it. Would have been grumpy and whispered snarky comments the whole time it was downloading, but would have done it.
<--- Mark
If they had DLC capabilities back then, that sh*t would have been $15. And I probably would have paid it. Would have been grumpy and whispered snarky comments the whole time it was downloading, but would have done it.
<--- Mark
In this particular case, I want it. Until they prove me wrong, I trust these guys. Given the Baldur's Gate expansions back in the day, that did exactly what he's promising, I believe this can work.
New quests, characters and places to go. For a decent price, it could work.
BUT, an it's a big but(t), it would also be a nice idea to sell this said DLC to the people who have the regular game, as a new expansion or something. I can imagine that being hard to do, and maybe not very lucrative, but it would be the perfect way to shut up the whiners.
Well, I sincerely hope all this paves the way for a whole new baldur's gate game. THAT'S what I want.
New quests, characters and places to go. For a decent price, it could work.
BUT, an it's a big but(t), it would also be a nice idea to sell this said DLC to the people who have the regular game, as a new expansion or something. I can imagine that being hard to do, and maybe not very lucrative, but it would be the perfect way to shut up the whiners.
Well, I sincerely hope all this paves the way for a whole new baldur's gate game. THAT'S what I want.
Seriously though, I think the core detail that makes DLC in situations like this make us feel like "bad touch" is going on is that the material is done, or prepared, while the original product is created. It's like making eggs and bacon, giving someone the eggs, then saying it's going to be a little more for the bacon. You made the f*cking bacon at the same time. GIVE ME MY BACON!
"Baldur's Gate? No problem. I'll roll with my GOG version of the original until then. "
The EE will launch with all of the original content, and, possibly, some (optional) new extra content as well. I have no idea why DLC freaks you people out so much. The fact that new content will later become available does not take away from the original product.
@Themuad
The PC is the original version announced, and it is the lead platform for BGEE. Check Trent Oster's Twitter. He's said this about 10 bajillion times.
The EE will launch with all of the original content, and, possibly, some (optional) new extra content as well. I have no idea why DLC freaks you people out so much. The fact that new content will later become available does not take away from the original product.
@Themuad
The PC is the original version announced, and it is the lead platform for BGEE. Check Trent Oster's Twitter. He's said this about 10 bajillion times.
This how dlc should be imo. Not shitty trinkets and such. Actual quality content. Now to see if he means it...
first i was like FFFFUUUUU
then i was like okay das cool
Then I remember this was a fucking iPad game so I laughed to myself.
then i was like okay das cool
Then I remember this was a fucking iPad game so I laughed to myself.
@killias2
Jesus i should clearly have looked closer at it. Thats what i get for not using twitter. Well him happy about it, so im gonna do some heroin and watch abuse pornografy
And yes why do people freak out so much about DLC? Fallout new vegas has fantastic dlc, they are just another word for expansion packs when things are good.
Jesus i should clearly have looked closer at it. Thats what i get for not using twitter. Well him happy about it, so im gonna do some heroin and watch abuse pornografy
And yes why do people freak out so much about DLC? Fallout new vegas has fantastic dlc, they are just another word for expansion packs when things are good.
Cant really call it yet, need to see what the DLC they come up with is really like. They would definitely need to do a spectacular job though, because theyre getting into gamer nostalgia and rabid fanboyism territory.
"He also said that game updates would arrive via an update/launcher to automatically push improvements to the game."
Like all those "improvements" Diablo 3 got post launch? yay...
Like all those "improvements" Diablo 3 got post launch? yay...
@Qreg
In this case there IS a complete game on sale. It's called "Baldur's Gate". These extras are being made NOW, some YEARS after the game was finished.
In this case there IS a complete game on sale. It's called "Baldur's Gate". These extras are being made NOW, some YEARS after the game was finished.
Don't want it, don't need it. My DRM free version from GOG works just fine and there are plenty of fan made mods freely available if I want anything "extra".
Gives people a reason to buy the game if they own the original. Well, beyond the updated graphics and such (which is beyond most remakes, which are more about introducing an older game to a new generation and people who missed it the first time - people who buy it a second time are just extra bonus).
It could set an interesting precedent if it goes well...
It could set an interesting precedent if it goes well...
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Boo Dlc in general, though I am curious to see if perhaps they can change that opinion.
@The Maud
Trolling Stealth huh? Good luck, I hear he's not very good at that.
And you got beef with JRPGS?!?! Man how are we ever gonna settle that dust? You never play Xenogears or something?
@The Maud
Trolling Stealth huh? Good luck, I hear he's not very good at that.
And you got beef with JRPGS?!?! Man how are we ever gonna settle that dust? You never play Xenogears or something?
Another game I won't play. I can't justify supporting this kind of behavior. When you buy a game you are paying for an experience, which in my opinion should be complete. If DLC is necessary to complete the experience then it should be free.
I can only think of 2 situations that DLC is developed :
1. The game is being sold unfinished.... BOO to that! I don't want to send the message that I'm okay with that, in any form or fashion. At the very least this type of DLC should be 100% FREE. When people pay for these types of games it certainly lowers standards for QUALITY in games. No wonder a mass of recent releases have been so bland. It perpetuates the whole, "Oh, we'll fix that in DLC attitude".
2. Greed, errr I mean extending the LIFE of the game..... BOO to that too! That is complete and utter bullshit. It's an excuse to get more money out of a product with very little effort on their part, yet they charge "standard" prices that are bloated in every possible way. I try to avoid games that use paid DLC because they are now trying to force it on consumers by using it to finish story lines and wrap up loose ends. If I can't finish the game and get every piece of the story for the intro price them I'm not interested.
I feel like its my responsibility as a paying customer to stand my ground, but all the tweens, or whatever those kids are called these days, will buy it up with their parents money anyways.... so meh. I still don't see where this magical freemium/DLC model is fixing ANYTHING that is wrong with the games industry.
I can only think of 2 situations that DLC is developed :
1. The game is being sold unfinished.... BOO to that! I don't want to send the message that I'm okay with that, in any form or fashion. At the very least this type of DLC should be 100% FREE. When people pay for these types of games it certainly lowers standards for QUALITY in games. No wonder a mass of recent releases have been so bland. It perpetuates the whole, "Oh, we'll fix that in DLC attitude".
2. Greed, errr I mean extending the LIFE of the game..... BOO to that too! That is complete and utter bullshit. It's an excuse to get more money out of a product with very little effort on their part, yet they charge "standard" prices that are bloated in every possible way. I try to avoid games that use paid DLC because they are now trying to force it on consumers by using it to finish story lines and wrap up loose ends. If I can't finish the game and get every piece of the story for the intro price them I'm not interested.
I feel like its my responsibility as a paying customer to stand my ground, but all the tweens, or whatever those kids are called these days, will buy it up with their parents money anyways.... so meh. I still don't see where this magical freemium/DLC model is fixing ANYTHING that is wrong with the games industry.
Obviously not day 1 DLC as it's an old old game, so I'm okay with this. It's also obviously not cut content, (since the whole game has been done years and years ago) but fresh storylines (I hope) so it's just more meat to chop up with my kensai/thief. Can't wait!
Considering it's a pretty old game, but it's a full remake anyway, this idea is FUCKING GENIUS. If it's gonna be all-new stuff, totally supported 100%. If you like the game before, but there's gonna be new stuff in addition to tweaks of old stuff + MOAR new stuff if you wanna pay for it.
Yo EA. THIS.
Yo EA. THIS.
I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand, I know it's hard for smaller devs to work on games, so extra money coming in from DLC makes sense for them. They need it more so than the likes of Acti/EA. But then the quality and context of the content is always at stake there. I absolutely hated DA:Origins DLC fiasco. Just release a fucking legit expansion pack like the days or yore. I would hate to see that on Baldurs Gate of all games. Double-Edged Sword for sure.
I'm just going to say its a bad idea atm.
I'm just going to say its a bad idea atm.
I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand, I know it's hard for smaller devs to work on games, so extra money coming in from DLC makes sense for them. They need it more so than the likes of Acti/EA. But then the quality and context of the content is always at stake there. I absolutely hated DA:Origins DLC fiasco. Just release a fucking legit expansion pack like the days or yore. I would hate to see that on Baldurs Gate of all games. Double-Edged Sword for sure.
I'm just going to say its a bad idea atm.
I'm just going to say its a bad idea atm.
@BIMP: In this case it already is a complete experience, the dlc he speaks of adds to that. Since you talk about kids, remember what expansion packs used to be Grandpa? Plus bitcing about standard pricing on a game without a price point announced yet? You seem to be overly agitated about something you dont have full knowledge of. Which irritates me as you can see by my snarky tone.
@BIMPtacular
I played and completed the Baldur's Gate experience over a decade ago. That experience comprised of the original, Shadow of Amn and the Baal expansion. So no, this DLC doesn't preclude you from enjoying the full experience; but since you refuse to play it I guess you'll never know.
Keep fighting the power, rebel, even if you're flailing in the dark.
I played and completed the Baldur's Gate experience over a decade ago. That experience comprised of the original, Shadow of Amn and the Baal expansion. So no, this DLC doesn't preclude you from enjoying the full experience; but since you refuse to play it I guess you'll never know.
Keep fighting the power, rebel, even if you're flailing in the dark.
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