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Evil Attorney General Michael Atkinson is the man solely responsible for Australia having to pay more for less content. He is the man standing in the way of his country joining the real world and having an 18+ age rating, the lack of which has led to a number of games being heavily censored or outright banned. He doesn't think this is a problem though, because "imaginary worlds" aren't important.

"I am baffled and worried about why proponents of R.18+ games are putting up their hands and saying 'Give us more cruel sex and extreme violence!'," said the mollycoddling GA to a concerned gamer. "I cannot fathom what State-enforced safeguards could exist to prevent R.18+ games being bought by households with children and how children can be stopped from using these games once the games are in the home. If adult gamers are so keen to have R.18+ games, I expect children would be just as keen.

"... I think you will find this issue has little traction with my constituents who are more concerned with real-life issues than home entertainment in imaginary worlds."

It's amusing to note that Atkinson believes this issue is unimportant, yet also believes these "Imaginary worlds" are capable of so much damage that the public needs to be denied access to them. You better pull up your pants, Mr. Atkinson. Your double standards are showing.








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BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:47
BalloonFighter
now thats pirates booty I wouldn't seek
Duck of Death's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:49
Duck of Death
Do all Australian women have beer guts and dress like Pirates? I can't tell if she's about to sumo wrestle or staring down a Dingo. Either way, I wanna live in Australia.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:56
jawshoeuh
This guy is definitely out there. "Cruel sex and extreme violence". I haven't had any cruel sex in any of my video games. What is he playing?
Handy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:57
Handy
Hypocrisy thy name is Atkinson.
stevenxonward's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 13:58
stevenxonward
@ jawshoeuh

Those games sound awesome!
Unassuming Local Guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:00
Unassuming Local Guy
One wonders if he really believe the bullshit that spews out of mouth so automatically.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:01
Xzyliac
*ahem* Fuck you Atkinson! On behalf of common sense if these imaginary worlds are so unimportant to you why don't you back the hell off and allow an 18+ rating? Oh that's tight because they're important to you. And since you are so right all the god damned time it's okay for you to care and everyone else should shut the hell up and agree. Right, okay, umm fuck you.

Now if you'll excuse I have to go enjoy not being Australian now. Enjoy your censored games and killer ants Aussies.
Perfidious Sinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:01
Perfidious Sinn
What is going on in that header image, and why do I have an erection?
GamesAreArt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:01
GamesAreArt
*Hold up hands* GIVE US MORE CRUEL SEX AND EXTREME VIOLENCE. </half joke>
jsutcliffe's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:02
jsutcliffe
That is a dangerous thing to say -- it makes me wonder whether he has worked on any trivial "real life" issues, and how he may have justified those with his constituents.
imaginarythomas's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:04
imaginarythomas
As an imaginary person, I am offended by the claim that imaginary worlds are not important.
yggogre's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:05
yggogre
I agree with him that there really aren't enough safeguards restricting minors from playing violent video games.

The problem isn't retailers, or developers or publishers. It's parents who are ignorant to the medium. An average adult can look at a film case and tell nearly straight away if they want their child to watch it. With a video game they have no experience and nothing to compare it to.

While he's certainly going a little far, it's a valid problem.
The Scott's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:05
The Scott
"I don't care if your taxes are high, at least you're not shooting cops in a game!"
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:08
jawshoeuh
This reminds me, what is the stance on pornography in Australia?
robbway's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:17
robbway
You got a key point out there that applies to both censorship and the violent games arguments. The ones that want to ban games pick and choose what part of a fantasy they decide to call real. When you boil it down, yes it is fantasy and most certainly does not trump topics on war and disease. But Atkinson intentionally removes the real topic, censorship--and he makes things up.
suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:23
suit
real world problems... LIKE YOUR TEETH!!!
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:31
Qraze
i bet he has guns in his household and still thinks his kids are in more danger from mw2.

somebody kill this guy for freedom. he's a traitor to his own land.
Keres's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:31
Keres
I expect he has no problem with R-rated movies (that is, whatever the Australian equivalent is), though.
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:32
ZombiePlatypus
God damn, I hate this guy and I don't even live there. I shudder to think of my rage if I actually was an Aussie. Fucking double talking, contradictory jackass.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:32
Mr Andy Dixon
Isn't Australia itself an imaginary world created for the Mad Max films and as an explanation for Hugh Jackman's ruggedness? When did they form a government?
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:36
Arkhon
"I cannot fathom what State-enforced safeguards could exist to prevent R.18+ games being bought by households with children and how children can be stopped from using these games once the games are in the home. If adult gamers are so keen to have R.18+ games, I expect children would be just as keen."

It sounds like someone doesn't know much about modern video game consoles, because they have filters on them to do exactly that.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:38
GoldenGamerXero
Did it ever occur to him that the kids that may end up with the game WON'T end up crazed psychopaths. Not every game with an M/18+ rating is is actually all that bad for these kids and the ones who will end up buying it would have seen worse. Even then I'm still miffed at the fact that he thinks that he understands what anyone wants besides himself.

He needs to be alerted that "children" do not need his protection nor are they asking for it. If they were asking for some they would go to their parents not the goddamn government.
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:40
MisterGrieves
A lot of games have cruel sex?
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:41
Cowboy TTop
The very fact he doesn't think its important, shows how out of touch with modern everyday aussies he is. I hope he gets voted out, since all he's done is make Australia the laughing stock of the world.
Deny Everything's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:45
Deny Everything
Reading comprehension. You fail.

When he is referencing "... I think you will find this issue has little traction with my constituents who are more concerned with real-life issues than home entertainment in imaginary worlds." He is talking about those individuals championing an 18+ rating. The current standard is that there is no rating and thus certain games cannot be sold in Australia. He is saying that his constituents are not interested such a rating, and as such having those game being on sale in Australia, and so he challenges his opponents to run someone in an election against him on the issue because they will fail.

Do you understand?

Okay, let me spell it out for you.

Atkinson. We don't want to have an 18+ rating in Australia, because we don't want those game in Australia.
Atkinson's constituents. Yeah! We agree!
Atkinson's opponents. We should have an 18+ rating in Australia.
Atkinson's response. If you feel that way, why don't you run a candidate against me in an election? While you are wasting your time trying to win them over on an 18+ rating, I'll spend my time on real world issues rather than championing the virtue of violent games.
Atkinson's constituents response. [to opponent of Atkinson] Umm... yeah. We really don't care about creating this new 18+ rating. K. Thanks. Bye.

Clear?
Deny Everything's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 14:46
Deny Everything
lol. i love all the free speech people who miss the point completely. but i guess idiots are the ones with the most to lose.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 15:19
Turbofail
"This reminds me, what is the stance on pornography in Australia?"

I'll just say this -- legal brothels.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 15:37
DinnertimeNinja
@yggogre,

The ESRB is BY FAR the most in depth, most accurate, and most specific rating system of ANY form of media out there.

Looking at the back of a game box tells you CLEARLY why the game has been rated so, spelling out if the game has realistic violence, sexual situations, etc.

Beyond that, going to the ESRB website gives you access to SPECIFIC reasons and scenes in the game that caused the specific rating.

The problem isn't that parents are uninformed, it's that they're too lazy to GET informed because the information is plain as day and only 30 of website viewing away.


@Deny Everything,

We all already know that.

Nothing about this post was misleading and everything you said was already obvious in the article.
yggogre's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 15:56
yggogre
@DinnertimeNinja

Yes, I agree, while the information is completely available to the parents, it is still a relevant problem that they just don't give enough of a shit to understand the information being thrown at them.
Vhaius's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:01
Vhaius
Trust it to be the Attorney-General from SA.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:31
lewness
I think the pirate lady is asking for a swift kick. Atkinson, too.
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:45
Gestault
I think dismissing fictional storytelling intended for adults as unimportant to a society at large is fucking dangerous. I feel pretty strongly about this. Considering how much "real world" allegory, commentary and observation is done through this medium, I don't see how he could feel any differently about books. Assuming he's being honest in his explanation. And that's ignoring a counterpoint that gaming shouldn't have to be "important" in the same way sports aren't important.

Motherfucker probably read "Glugs of Gosh" and saw nothing more than silly words.
Solid Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 16:46
Solid Squirrel
I think Atkinson is the Demolition Man equivalent of Cocqteau from it.
Enhance your calm man!
Sparta2020's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 17:09
Sparta2020
in Australia kids have access to free porn at 5"00pm on tv!
TOEmastro's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 17:43
TOEmastro
This man is an ass-hat.

By which he wears an ass on his head.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 17:51
RenegadePanda
So let me get this straight...

He is more concerned with real life issues, but he is on a solid quest to ban all imaginary ones. If he were more concerned with real life issues, he wouldn't be doing this.
KaL YoshiKa's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 18:06
KaL YoshiKa
"It doesn't affect me so I don't care, screw you I do what I want" /Atkinson on freedom. China called, they want their propaganda minister back.
lem's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 18:24
lem
I wish he didn't just drop "the children, oh the children" in the middle of all his sentences. If you re-read it and left out the children stuff it would just come across as why shouldn't we have have 18+ games and what kind of people should request we have 18+ ratings for games? I feel the answer for that is that if we have 18+ rating then it makes it harder for children to play what with console restriction built in and it gives adults choice.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 18:56
BoomingEchoes
I guess this guy hates movies too right? You know, because they're an imaginary world that no one should care about either.. Some one should take note of how much he pays for TV, Movies and Fictional Books from now on and get back to all of us about how much of a hypocrite he is..

I guess he isn't torn up at all by the fact that their dollar is so high right now its pushing Hollywood productions out of their country because filming is just to expensive right now. That his government and country men aren't making as much money because of that.

I guess he doesn't care that its also happening to neighboring New Zealand?

People like him, who live in "Free nations", with "Freedom of Speech", really piss me right the fuck off, no matter what country they're from.
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 19:53
Gestault
@Deny Everything:
Thank you for being so starkly condescending. I would counter your major point by gesturing toward every other medium having rating systems which allow adult-oriented content to exist in mainstream.

You're arguing that he was elected specifically because of his stance on this issue, and only for this issue. He apparently stands for no other "real world" (har har, c-wut-i-did-thar) issues. If the public is truly demanding with their voting voice that this be the case, then why aren't they demanding that books, music, television, and movies have their respective "bad" content be removed from sale?

You've gone out of your way to infer that the commenters here don't understand how freedom of speech works, and I'll say as amicably as I can that I think your assertion that a government limiting which content can be viewed reflects this freedom is not only wrong, but despicable. If a majority voted to abolish a representative republic, the second that vote is put into action, that nation ceases to follow the voice of its people. The protection of freedoms works both ways with citizens and their leaders.

A more realistic view of what's happening is that he has been elected for any of a spectrum of political and social views he espoused in his campaigning, and this more extreme view slipped through the process.
jkid's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 20:52
jkid
Here's what Atkinson really saying:

"I am baffled and worried about why proponents of R.18+ games are putting up their hands and saying 'Give us more cruel sex and extreme violence!'," said the mollycoddling GA to a concerned gamer. "I cannot fathom what State-enforced safeguards could exist to prevent R.18+ games being bought from my household with my children and how my children can be stopped from using these games once the games are in the home. If adult gamers are so keen to have R.18+ games, I expect my children would be just as keen.

"... I think you will find this issue has little traction with my constituents who are more concerned with real-life issues than home entertainment in imaginary worlds."
THX113's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 21:25
THX113
I unfortunately live in the state that this prick is the attorney general you should see the amount of crime that's going on here it would make your hair stand on end,he's more concerned about stopping video games and yet just last month there was a shootout with bikies in the CBD what a wanker.
Starrynight's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 21:26
Starrynight
I'm so distracted by that hideous header I can't read the article..
Verdorben's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 01:38
Verdorben
@Sparta2020

We don't have porn at 5pm.

They're called 'arthouse' films.
whatthi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 04:27
whatthi
as a guy living in OZ i am really frustrated on the lack of a bloody R18 rating scheme here..i am forced to import games because of morons like Atkinson..remember a few weeks ago he said a vote against him is a vote for "rape"...how are you even gonna top that?...

i dont know what happened to this guy in his teen years, was he deprived of videogames, was he trapped in a piball machine..

if i see him im gonna throw my GTA4 import copy on his face
Keebles's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 05:29
Keebles
Another thing that he fails to realizes is that most games that are R 18+ on other countries are MA 15+ here with no content changer or removed (MW 2, gears of war etc.). This means that parents are letting there kids play games that they shouldn't - Just a thought ( :
YoTanaka's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 12:32
YoTanaka
My 8 year old son had a friend over the other day and they wanted to play Xbox or Wii, so i let them go look through my games. Most are MA15+ which is our Australian highest rating. I suggested to them to play the Wii, as the games are a lower rating. Still his friend picked up Gears Of War 2, and i was about to do the responsible dad thing when he said, "no we cant play that: its 15MA+."

One word. SHOCKED. This kids parents must do their job!

Then he left and we played a few hours of MW2.
TheBatman42's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 13:04
TheBatman42
What's it called again when the government makes all the decisions for the people? communism, socialist...you name it.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 14:54
Darren Nakamura
If real life issues are more important, then maybe he should focus on them and let gamers do what they want.
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