I'm starting to fear for my own job. Bulk mailing is hurting right now.

I hope it doesn't lessen the quality of the game, I really want to kill Iraqis, virtually of course.

i think the key here is that a badly mismanaged war is still active and gnawing on the american psyche.i don't think a boardgame released in 1968 about six days in vietnam would have fared much better. on a side note, i highly recommend seeing "the hurt locker" if you have not done so already.

@SnakeDude4Life

At least they got to put out a game. Sounds like your beef is with Capcom for being a bunch of pussies. To answer your (poorly punctuated) question: "How come moives like "Black Hawk Down" can have Native (Mosty dark skin aficans)only enemies but, Resident Evil 5 HAS to have the race rainbow coalition."

A. Because Capcom's a bunch of pussies and tokenists who came up with an idiotic pseudo-solution to a totally valid critique of their game.

Also, you really care about profile pics? Really?

@SnakeDude4Life

Uh. I don't know. My gut tells me the reality is that the game actually sucks and that's the main reason it's getting canned and this company is going under is because they're not good at making a game. But still, there was an organized campaign against the game by vets and vet-families. There's no such organization amongst leftist cultural critics and minority journalists. There's an actual organization of Left4Dead fanboys who are trying to kill L4D2 based on absurd nerdy-fanboyist reasons. But if you so much as Twitter that "its kinda f'd up that L4D2 is all about shooting mobs in post-Katrina NO", Jim Sterling will be all up in your grill with the STFU's and head out to Seattle to get an official statement from Valve that you're fucking insane. I find it curious. All this animus directed at the utterly powerless.

"As if Left4Dead fanboys was ever going to get Left4Dead shelved with Their "negative opinions". Or as if RandomDudeFromDestructoid or WhatsHisNameFromTheZombieBlog, with the power of their post-modern multicultualist academic critiques"

Mirrors.

If the game sucks, if the market for a modern shooter is overcrowded or if the Devs can hash it out in time, then cancel it. BUT, don't give the whiney blogs credit for calling for the end of a games development because of it's content or story.

Nice wall of text.

Work on the space bar buddy.

@SnakeDude4Life

I am using my s p a c e b a r! I don't know what you're talking about. Do you have some weird firefox filter plug-in thing going on or something?

And you missed my point. The L4D (Sorry, L 4 D) guys had an online petition and were spamming forums. They were an activist group. It's more than just "negative opinions". Same with the Fallujah vets. That had spokespeople and everything going on NPR. That's a bigger deal than just a few blog posts.

@SnakeDude4Life
“Movies” have existed since the late 1800’s (?) and the film industry, as we know it in America, since 1920. While we as “gamers” might want to believe that our pastime stands in equal regard and artistry to that of Hollywood, the expression and expertise provided by time just does not compare between the two art forms. Sure American flicks have fallen into a rut as of late and some game experiences are more satisfying than some movies (for gamers that is), but saying that games are capable of expressing more than what the movie industry is capable of is quite a stretch. Movie directors have been doing this for nearly 100 years, while video-game game directors are undoubtedly talented, their craft has not existed nearly as long, nor have they had the benefit of years of artistic growth. I am not saying that the potential for games to eventually rival movies is totally preposterous; it’s just going to take some more time.

I get what you are trying to say regarding first person perspectives and camera angles in games, but you have to understand that a “good” director can do all of that plus inject emotion/feeling into every second of footage. Why can a “good” director do this? This is possible because of the years dedicated to treating film-making as an art form. That means years of fans, fellow artists, and professional opinion-hawks critiquing the amassed work and building on said critique thus growing as an art medium. Games aren’t there yet…they are getting there, but currently games are getting hung up on the critique part. Like a petulant child, gaming seems to want to resist being reviewed. Whether it’s being reviewed based on logistical standards like graphics/sound/gameplay, or whether the review revolves around cultural impact or depiction…..game makers and players seem to be screaming, “I will not be held to the same standards that other forms of art and expression have been held to!” “I will NOT grow up!” That’s sad, to me.

Do you understand what N’gai Croal was saying about Resident Evil 5? He was saying that the images conjured by the game brought up memories of racist stereotypes popular in movies and culture. This is a claim/battle that the movie industry (and many other expression based industries) has had to deal with for a long time. The movie industry has learned from these criticisms and provided alternative voices in an attempt to move towards a greater cultural balance. If we want our pastime of Video Games to be respected and recognized as a form of art, then we have to accept (at the very least be open to) these “growing pains”.

@Snake
I’m not going to argue semantic elements of the language of my (or your) post, that’s really silly to me and doesn’t represent dialogue. I will accept that you don’t understand the point of my message and that’s fine. Games are not at war with movies, but if that’s how you feel….good luck with your fight.

@Snake
Sure dude...