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I guessed this years ago when I heard it was a trilogy. Holy shit, you're right, Dale: China would be amazing too.
They'd be stupid NOT to make it a Ninja setting: it would sell millions on concept alone! Hell, eliminate the trilogy idea and make both.
I guessed this years ago when I heard it was a trilogy. Holy shit, you're right, Dale: China would be amazing too.
They'd be stupid NOT to make it a Ninja setting: it would sell millions on concept alone! Hell, eliminate the trilogy idea and make both.
AC2 isn't even out yet. How can they possibly be considering the third one yet? I think they should flip a coin though both eras would be great. Or hell just make an AC4 so they can do both.
You know what would be sweet, New York City in the mid to late 1800's. You would lose that ancient flavour obviously, but it would still have some great architecture.
As much as I'd love to see a feudal japan Assassin's Creed, I think they may have to stretch the story a little too much. Medieval Europe sound a little regressive, though. You can have a late 17th century game in Japan while keeping the story somewhat cohesive and progressive.
Maybe a spin-off of the series set in medieval Europe would be more interesting. Something for the Wii maybe?
Maybe a spin-off of the series set in medieval Europe would be more interesting. Something for the Wii maybe?
Oh, so you mean Tenchu? I'd rather see them take another step towards the present, 1700s or 1800s in Europe or America. Thus far, the Assassins Guild storyline seems to revolve more around the Europe/Middle East (aka the West) and I'd hate to see them stretch the story just for zomg cool ninjas.
That'd be cool, but keeping in line with the canon of the game, it'd be hard to have Desmond's ancestry go from the Mideast to Japan.
...unless one of his ancestors was driven out of the Mideast and had to relocate to Japan. Now THAT'd make sense AND be awesome! *squeal*
So, AC3 will be the last Tenchu game?
Not great. As "cool" as some people would think Japan is, the idea of a sneaky ninja has been done so many times it is hardly inventive. Also, I thought the idea of the story was that all the assasins were ancestors of the same person, which would not make any sense in Sakoku times Japan.
Not great. As "cool" as some people would think Japan is, the idea of a sneaky ninja has been done so many times it is hardly inventive. Also, I thought the idea of the story was that all the assasins were ancestors of the same person, which would not make any sense in Sakoku times Japan.
I think that China was original rumored due to the some of the writing on the wall being in Chinese. Although that may also mean that it won't be in China, if that particular relic was already uncovered.
The thing i'm thinking about is: would the classic assassin's hood fit in with clothing designs of Feudal Japan?
The thing i'm thinking about is: would the classic assassin's hood fit in with clothing designs of Feudal Japan?
Everybody shouldn't take the setting ideas for ACIII seriously until Patrice Desilets says so.
Also a Japanese setting would suck due to them being well ninja and had the shittiest architecture in any civilization.
Also a Japanese setting would suck due to them being well ninja and had the shittiest architecture in any civilization.
@ hermes
besides tenchu I can't name any game where you play as a ninja where you actually have yo be sneaky. It's all been high speed combat running off of walls, and Naruto. and Tenchu's most recent entries have sucked.
besides tenchu I can't name any game where you play as a ninja where you actually have yo be sneaky. It's all been high speed combat running off of walls, and Naruto. and Tenchu's most recent entries have sucked.
So... are we ever going to play in the futuristic present timeline as the original AC was kinda leading us towards?
I always thought they would finish up the trilogy and then start a new one set in the East. You know with someone new in the animus.
It's not going to be some white guy flipping around feudal Japan? Because that would be completely inaccurate and stupid. If that's the case, then put it right back in Europe.
Ninjas = sales up by 50% and awesomeness factor up tenfold. The only thing that could make Assasin's Creed sell even more are zombies.
Feudal Japan?
THAT. WOULD. BE. FUCKING. AWESOME.
I'd buy three copies of the game if it were set somewhere in Asia.(Preferable Japan or China)
And if done well, they could sell a fuckton of copies in the land of the rising sun. Japan loves Ninja.
THAT. WOULD. BE. FUCKING. AWESOME.
I'd buy three copies of the game if it were set somewhere in Asia.(Preferable Japan or China)
And if done well, they could sell a fuckton of copies in the land of the rising sun. Japan loves Ninja.
Feudal Japan, medieval, WWII, female assassin, rumor, rumor, rumor.
I still want to know if AC2 is any good.
I still want to know if AC2 is any good.
@Steel Brotha: Weel, besides Tenchu, we have Mini Ninjas and Red Ninja. The list is actually longer if we lighten up the idea of ninjas to include things like Thief, Snake, Sam Fisher or Commandos.
The point is, sneaky in feudal japan automatically means ninjas... And that is hardly new.
The point is, sneaky in feudal japan automatically means ninjas... And that is hardly new.
Am I the only one who misses the game being set in the Middle East? I mean, tooling around Jerusalem was one of the coolest things about the first game. It was such a different environment than what we usually see. I've preordered AC2, but the Italy setting doesn't do much for me. Neither does the prospect of feudal Japan for that matter, even though it was expected. I mean, I've seen those places in games before. There's a wealth of titles that take place in Europe and Asia. I wish they had fleshed out the original setting a little further.
I almost sort of wished they never did the Animus thing, and rather had you progressively follow Altair's descendants in following game.
I almost sort of wished they never did the Animus thing, and rather had you progressively follow Altair's descendants in following game.
@Suitcoat
I agree: the Middle East setting was one of the BIG things I loved about the first game. One of my majors was Muslim Studies at College, and I feel like the Middle East setting is under-utilized in entertainment.
I agree: the Middle East setting was one of the BIG things I loved about the first game. One of my majors was Muslim Studies at College, and I feel like the Middle East setting is under-utilized in entertainment.
French Revolution! That¡¯s the perfect setting, I¡¯m frustrated that no one from Ubi ever mentioned it. Is French Revolution still a sensitive topic in France?
@hermes
you seemed to have misunderstood what I said. Mini Ninjas is a for a younger age group. Comparing that to Tenchu is just silly, and I highly doubt that there are assassinations in Mini Ninjas. Red Ninja was mediocre at best and not the best example to use for a "ninja" game. And though Thief, Solid Snake, and Sam Fisher may use stealth, they aren't ninjas. The point is that if you want a true ninja game, Ryu Hayabusa isn't the guy. Just because the game has ninja in it doesn't mean that it's an assassination game like Tenchu, or Assassin's Creed. The idea may not be original, but the way that it wold be executed certainly would be much better then we've seen. If your gonna say that Mini Ninjas is an example of a good "Ninja" game then I guess that makes Naruto a damn great example right?
you seemed to have misunderstood what I said. Mini Ninjas is a for a younger age group. Comparing that to Tenchu is just silly, and I highly doubt that there are assassinations in Mini Ninjas. Red Ninja was mediocre at best and not the best example to use for a "ninja" game. And though Thief, Solid Snake, and Sam Fisher may use stealth, they aren't ninjas. The point is that if you want a true ninja game, Ryu Hayabusa isn't the guy. Just because the game has ninja in it doesn't mean that it's an assassination game like Tenchu, or Assassin's Creed. The idea may not be original, but the way that it wold be executed certainly would be much better then we've seen. If your gonna say that Mini Ninjas is an example of a good "Ninja" game then I guess that makes Naruto a damn great example right?
Feudal Japan would be cool, but that concept about the World War 2 Spy/Assassin would be a million times better.
Steel Brotha: I never said they were good examples, just examples of ninja games with stealth elements. The problem is that, if you try to picture "stealth in feudal japan", that automatically means "ninjas!". You don't need it to be stealth, or even feudal (try "stealth in japan") for people to associate japanese settings with ninjas. That is why this does not feel like an original idea... It might be the a good game, but the idea and setting of a character killing, hiding and fighting in japan with a ninja outfit is not something that strikes me as original.
Not to menction that it would make little sense in the storyline unless they set it between XV and XVI century.
Not to menction that it would make little sense in the storyline unless they set it between XV and XVI century.
I think a japanese setting would look interesting and help sell the game in Japan, sinc ethey sometimes dodge western games. The other thing is that it might be interesting to see how it goes up against japanese develop made games in the same setting. Only downside is that japan and ninjas has been done to death in games. I rather see them consider more european settings.
I think better settings would be France during the Hundred Year War (this would be perfect for mercenary stuff between England and France), or Portugal during the age of discovery. If they want to take it back to the middle east, setting it during the last days of Constantinople (what's now known as Turkey) would be rather awesome. Not sure what happened? Use wikipedia.
I think better settings would be France during the Hundred Year War (this would be perfect for mercenary stuff between England and France), or Portugal during the age of discovery. If they want to take it back to the middle east, setting it during the last days of Constantinople (what's now known as Turkey) would be rather awesome. Not sure what happened? Use wikipedia.
with the hints given at the end of AC1 I had almost 100% sure the next game would be in Japan, but then comes Italy and blows me away! cant wait to check the whats happening to Desmond, but yeah Japan would be very cool indeed
I'm surprised that AC2 isn't located in Japan based on the "ending" of the first game. I was wondering how they would tie this all together.
if the game is set in japan, i think the protagonist must not be japanese. we need to think about Desmond, he doesnt look asian at all and this game is all about his descendents. anyways, the WWII theme would be really amazing, It would be nice if the player was on the neutral side (switzerland style) and fight both sides like the first game.
I understand why Ubisoft would do AC3 in japan, and it kind of relates to history.
There were no foreigners in japan up, until their isolation was broken by traders from the west. To have a western character in japan and make it interesting, I'd expect they'd use the 16th century japan, where foreigners were becoming more regular visitors, due to trading ore metals, which were plentiful because of the volcanic nature of Japan.
On top of that, Rennaisance Europeans admired Japan, due to Marco Polo's reports from there of metals above, so that would all play out nicely in the game, following on from renaissance period AC2.
I also mentioned Constantinople earlier, and its fall in 1453. Its said that its fall in turn helped fuel the rennaisance, with artists, scientist etc who fled the city. I hope Ubisoft add some of this into the game.
Guess I'll add AC2 to my buy list, as I love a bit of history and action.
There were no foreigners in japan up, until their isolation was broken by traders from the west. To have a western character in japan and make it interesting, I'd expect they'd use the 16th century japan, where foreigners were becoming more regular visitors, due to trading ore metals, which were plentiful because of the volcanic nature of Japan.
On top of that, Rennaisance Europeans admired Japan, due to Marco Polo's reports from there of metals above, so that would all play out nicely in the game, following on from renaissance period AC2.
I also mentioned Constantinople earlier, and its fall in 1453. Its said that its fall in turn helped fuel the rennaisance, with artists, scientist etc who fled the city. I hope Ubisoft add some of this into the game.
Guess I'll add AC2 to my buy list, as I love a bit of history and action.
@BiroBiro
Not necessarily. My family is fairly mixed, though dominantly white. And if Altier was either German, English, or French, in the first game and the character Ezio(?) is Italian, you already have some ethnic diversity in there. It's not hard to see one of his ancestors as Japanese, or anything else. Hell, his grandfather could be a Bond-esque Russian spy during the Cold War, or something.
I think it would be interesting, seeing him as the product of a lineage of assassins that spans the globe, with different personalities or ethics. Ezio seems different from Altier already given his environment and the characters he interacts with.
Not necessarily. My family is fairly mixed, though dominantly white. And if Altier was either German, English, or French, in the first game and the character Ezio(?) is Italian, you already have some ethnic diversity in there. It's not hard to see one of his ancestors as Japanese, or anything else. Hell, his grandfather could be a Bond-esque Russian spy during the Cold War, or something.
I think it would be interesting, seeing him as the product of a lineage of assassins that spans the globe, with different personalities or ethics. Ezio seems different from Altier already given his environment and the characters he interacts with.
do you really think the american government and the esrb government lap dogs would allow a game that centers around any american revolution? short and long answer, NO.
nixon instituted the war on drugs because the hippies were having new ideas, protesting wars and pushing a new american revolution, so nixon targeted the american people's constitutional rights and labeled them as criminals.
i would like a fuedal setting but there ain't many tall buildings in that time. the tallest buildings were temples and may have been 3 stories at the most. they do have trees though.
nixon instituted the war on drugs because the hippies were having new ideas, protesting wars and pushing a new american revolution, so nixon targeted the american people's constitutional rights and labeled them as criminals.
i would like a fuedal setting but there ain't many tall buildings in that time. the tallest buildings were temples and may have been 3 stories at the most. they do have trees though.
[i]do you really think the american government and the esrb government lap dogs would allow a game that centers around any american revolution? short and long answer, NO.
nixon instituted the war on drugs because the hippies were having new ideas, protesting wars and pushing a new american revolution, so nixon targeted the american people's constitutional rights and labeled them as criminals.[/i]
Ubisoft is a French company, friend. Not American. Also, what the hell are you on about? Homeboy's talking about the American Revolution, as in the historical one. Pretty sure Nixon gave about a dick about what the 'hippies' though about it.
nixon instituted the war on drugs because the hippies were having new ideas, protesting wars and pushing a new american revolution, so nixon targeted the american people's constitutional rights and labeled them as criminals.[/i]
Ubisoft is a French company, friend. Not American. Also, what the hell are you on about? Homeboy's talking about the American Revolution, as in the historical one. Pretty sure Nixon gave about a dick about what the 'hippies' though about it.
the hippies were a new american revolution. nixon put stop to that. it was a bit off topic i admit.
even so, where are the historically accurate revolution games? or any games that promote revolution against US or US interests? there are games like just cause that do it against what we consider a facist/communist/social state but where are the anti US government games? even dues ex wasn't against a government but against a corporation. it was almost there but not quite.
even so, where are the historically accurate revolution games? or any games that promote revolution against US or US interests? there are games like just cause that do it against what we consider a facist/communist/social state but where are the anti US government games? even dues ex wasn't against a government but against a corporation. it was almost there but not quite.
I would love to see one with ninjas. Problem is, ninjas are never seen. The "blending in with the crowd" would have to be cut, or thrown in there with little regard for factual tactics. I'm all for it if I get to use ninja weapons, though. I also hope they look at the possibility of a modern day ex US special special forces or British SAS soldier. And have him rouge and for hire, so the soldier does not have all the weapons of the military so it makes it just another splinter cell. Ultimately, I don't care, as I'm still looking forward to #2.
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