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Once again we see how any kind of hateful filth is allowed as long as it's under the guise of religion. I'm signing that petition, hopefully it'll have some effect.
@The Silent Protaganist People have a choice in believing in god, they often dont have a choice of there sexual preference.
@Idlepye - And how exactly does that justify religion-bashing? I want to hear this one so explain it real good to me, mmkay?
this issue here for me is not so much the whole "gayness cure". honestly if you support freedom of choice and speech you have to support the rights of a church to publish something like this no matter how ridiculous it is. that being said, what if there are people that think something like this would help them? I would probably say that being happy with who you are is the most healthy way for a person to handle being gay (i am sorry that i could not think of a way to word that without making homosexuality sound like an illness, i didn't mean it that way), but who says that a person that is wanting to try this method shouldn't be able to?
the problem here is not with the content of the app, it is with the hypocrisy of apple approval process. please do not confuse the two.
and i stand by my belief that if you believe in freedom of speech and expression, you HAVE to let things like this app exist. otherwise you are just supporting free speech of your ideals.
the problem here is not with the content of the app, it is with the hypocrisy of apple approval process. please do not confuse the two.
and i stand by my belief that if you believe in freedom of speech and expression, you HAVE to let things like this app exist. otherwise you are just supporting free speech of your ideals.
@The Silent Protagonist
There is no physiological difference (other than lower intelligence) that makes people predisposed to have blind-faith and to truly believe in aethereal things of fantasy.
There is no physiological difference (other than lower intelligence) that makes people predisposed to have blind-faith and to truly believe in aethereal things of fantasy.
Don't want to suck dick? There's an app for that.
But seriously though good job, Apple, for alienating your market base.
But seriously though GLAAD should create an app that makes you crave penis.
But seriously though who thought it would be a good idea to teach Fred Phelps how to program?
But seriously though I don't see how anyone can think being gay is a choice? I never looked at a wang and thought, "Hey maybe just once I should put that in my mouth. See what it is like."
But seriously though thats some gay shit. Who ever made the app can go suck a dick. The Homosexual Community shouldn't have to deal with this kind of trolling.
But seriously though good job, Apple, for alienating your market base.
But seriously though GLAAD should create an app that makes you crave penis.
But seriously though who thought it would be a good idea to teach Fred Phelps how to program?
But seriously though I don't see how anyone can think being gay is a choice? I never looked at a wang and thought, "Hey maybe just once I should put that in my mouth. See what it is like."
But seriously though thats some gay shit. Who ever made the app can go suck a dick. The Homosexual Community shouldn't have to deal with this kind of trolling.
Just downloaded the app and it totally works. I'm Trying out their app to cure me of my blackness next.
@CrawlingChaos
But faith does not automatically turn you into a bigotted douchebag. There may be a correlation, but there is no causality.
So jumping on the "FUCK DEM CHRISTIANS" bandwagon is kind of not helping at all. There is a lot to criticise when it comes to religion, but that should also be done in a differentiated, intelligent way. amirite?
Bottom line is: Don't be stupid. Being stupid never looks good. Regardless what you're targeting.
But faith does not automatically turn you into a bigotted douchebag. There may be a correlation, but there is no causality.
So jumping on the "FUCK DEM CHRISTIANS" bandwagon is kind of not helping at all. There is a lot to criticise when it comes to religion, but that should also be done in a differentiated, intelligent way. amirite?
Bottom line is: Don't be stupid. Being stupid never looks good. Regardless what you're targeting.
You can call me hypocritical, but i think the same of the people who need ANY organized religion in the same way (MOST) Christians think of Ghey people.
They borked, need fixan.
I'm not ghey, but I don't think it's a choice. I think it's how your brain is wired. Simple as, if you're ghey, it's because you're ghey. It's your right to be attracted to whoever you're attracted to.
ANY organized religion however is 100% choice, a choice massively influenced by extreme indoctrination of the young and the "signing up" of your kids at birth. A cult if you like, a cult where people stay by choice because all their lives they've been told that they NEED it.
I disagree with all forms of organized religion and I strongly believe the vast majority of problems in this world can be attributed to one of two things 1) Greed and 2) organized religion.
(Just for some background, I was brought up as a strict Roman Catholic, a "faith" I dropped like a hot turd as soon as i was old enough to stop being FORCED to go to church. Even now my Dad and Grandfather will try to TELL me what i "believe" - I'm a cured Catholic boy, went from Alter Boy to slightly aggressive Atheist over the last 15 years)
They borked, need fixan.
I'm not ghey, but I don't think it's a choice. I think it's how your brain is wired. Simple as, if you're ghey, it's because you're ghey. It's your right to be attracted to whoever you're attracted to.
ANY organized religion however is 100% choice, a choice massively influenced by extreme indoctrination of the young and the "signing up" of your kids at birth. A cult if you like, a cult where people stay by choice because all their lives they've been told that they NEED it.
I disagree with all forms of organized religion and I strongly believe the vast majority of problems in this world can be attributed to one of two things 1) Greed and 2) organized religion.
(Just for some background, I was brought up as a strict Roman Catholic, a "faith" I dropped like a hot turd as soon as i was old enough to stop being FORCED to go to church. Even now my Dad and Grandfather will try to TELL me what i "believe" - I'm a cured Catholic boy, went from Alter Boy to slightly aggressive Atheist over the last 15 years)
@ CrawlingChaos.
Well, I was going to make a nice response to your last comment, but after reading the comment you just posted...Fuck you sir, how's that for being somewhat wrong?
Well, I was going to make a nice response to your last comment, but after reading the comment you just posted...Fuck you sir, how's that for being somewhat wrong?
See, here's the thing with people saying Christians should leave well enough alone.
The religion says that its members should convert people. Further, that allowing someone to live a life of sin as defined by the morality of the bible is being a bad Christian.
Literally guys, from a point of view these guys are morally obligated to create this app. And it's actually really difficult to even call them retarded for doing so if you understand the motivation that's behind why they do it.
I'm not a Christian, nor do I think there's anything wrong with homosexuals nor does my religion need me to convert people.
But the main problem here is that Apple are basically amazing hypocrites for letting this through.
The religion says that its members should convert people. Further, that allowing someone to live a life of sin as defined by the morality of the bible is being a bad Christian.
Literally guys, from a point of view these guys are morally obligated to create this app. And it's actually really difficult to even call them retarded for doing so if you understand the motivation that's behind why they do it.
I'm not a Christian, nor do I think there's anything wrong with homosexuals nor does my religion need me to convert people.
But the main problem here is that Apple are basically amazing hypocrites for letting this through.
@NeoGreenLantern
Dammit, I knew someone would beat me to saying "there's an app for that!" Also, well said.
Dammit, I knew someone would beat me to saying "there's an app for that!" Also, well said.
@The Silent Protaganist, I never said it did justify it but there is a difference, hating religion comes from a completely different mindset to 'gay-bashing'.
@The Silent Protaganist, I never said it did justify it but there is a difference, hating religion comes from a completely different mindset to 'gay-bashing'.
@uncleogre
that is beside the point. how does this app existing in the app store effect anyone's rights?
what you are bringing up is a whole other issue in which i do not necessarily disagree with you, but that should not have any bearing on this app specifically.
that is beside the point. how does this app existing in the app store effect anyone's rights?
what you are bringing up is a whole other issue in which i do not necessarily disagree with you, but that should not have any bearing on this app specifically.
But (really) seriously though, I find it funny that the programmer actually thinks that a simple app can rewire a persons brain. This is the quick fix self help bullshit at its finest. Think of it from the other angle. Imagine someone trying to sell and app that makes you come to terms with being gay? Its not possible. Anyone who has ever struggled with anything about themselves knows that their are no quick fixes let alone something that doesn't need to be fixed.
@Quoth
Certainly it doesn't, and certainly faith can serve to better a person. I was brought up in a Catholic family and attended Catholic schooling up through high-school. Technically you could say I'm an apostate, though that would have required me believing in any of that in the first place (I "lost my faith" around the same time I "lost my faith" in Santa Claus). There's just an inherent element of hostility and virulence in problematic missionary religions (ie. Christianity, Islam).
Stupidity is the worst sin, in my eyes.
Certainly it doesn't, and certainly faith can serve to better a person. I was brought up in a Catholic family and attended Catholic schooling up through high-school. Technically you could say I'm an apostate, though that would have required me believing in any of that in the first place (I "lost my faith" around the same time I "lost my faith" in Santa Claus). There's just an inherent element of hostility and virulence in problematic missionary religions (ie. Christianity, Islam).
Stupidity is the worst sin, in my eyes.
@Quoth
Certainly it doesn't, and certainly faith can serve to better a person. I was brought up in a Catholic family and attended Catholic schooling up through high-school. Technically you could say I'm an apostate, though that would have required me believing in any of that in the first place (I "lost my faith" around the same time I "lost my faith" in Santa Claus). There's just an inherent element of hostility and virulence in problematic missionary religions that needs to be challenged and addressed (ie. Christianity, Islam).
Stupidity is the worst sin, in my eyes.
Certainly it doesn't, and certainly faith can serve to better a person. I was brought up in a Catholic family and attended Catholic schooling up through high-school. Technically you could say I'm an apostate, though that would have required me believing in any of that in the first place (I "lost my faith" around the same time I "lost my faith" in Santa Claus). There's just an inherent element of hostility and virulence in problematic missionary religions that needs to be challenged and addressed (ie. Christianity, Islam).
Stupidity is the worst sin, in my eyes.
I fully support this app and no im not trolling. i have nothing against gay people but you either believe in freedom of speach or you dont. you cant just pick and choose the shit that your in favor of. i personally cant stand islam, i find it horrid, evil and wish it didnt exist :)(OH NO HE DIDNT!!) but i agree people who follow it (and other religions) have a right to express their faith without me trying to ban that shit because i find it offensive. if we didnt have freedom of spech muslims would have taken over by now just like they is plannin to do and we'd all be wearing towels on our heads, stoning women to death for not being submissive and worshiping a goat fucking pedophile.
freedom of speach...dont like it move to the middle east
freedom of speach...dont like it move to the middle east
You know what would've been better...
If the gay organisation, Exodus, just ignored it and stopped drawing so much attention to the app. I would bet big money that it has received more downloads thanks to the publicity it has received.
If the gay organisation, Exodus, just ignored it and stopped drawing so much attention to the app. I would bet big money that it has received more downloads thanks to the publicity it has received.
You know what would've been better...
If the gay organisation, Exodus, just ignored it and stopped drawing so much attention to the app. I would bet big money that it has received more downloads thanks to the publicity it has received.
If the gay organisation, Exodus, just ignored it and stopped drawing so much attention to the app. I would bet big money that it has received more downloads thanks to the publicity it has received.
As a gay man, I believe that freedom of speech is VERY important. Therefore I believe that these people have the right to say what they want about us, as long as they aren't infringing on my rights to freedom of speech.
If we're going to have the 1st amendment then we gotta give that right to EVERYONE. That includes the racist, the homophobic and the just plain hateful.
If we're going to have the 1st amendment then we gotta give that right to EVERYONE. That includes the racist, the homophobic and the just plain hateful.
@Quoth - Exactly. No one helps their case for anything when they instantly resort to attacking others.
There should be an app to cure people of being a dick. Because well its a choice you have to be an asshole or not. My guess is that Jesus has a bigger problem with assholes than gay people.
@IdlePye
You will only be attracted to women with 4 boobs and 2 vaginae. (<-- spelled checked just taught me the plural of vagina!)
You will only be attracted to women with 4 boobs and 2 vaginae. (<-- spelled checked just taught me the plural of vagina!)
"Oh noes, I'm not comfortable being homosexual, but now I can save myself with my iPhone".
Where the f*ck is the world going to?
If you're not comfortable being gay, maybe tell your friggin friends if you have any left after you spent your whole fucking life checking you freaking iPhone?
I for myself, as a fully comfortable gay dude, am not offended by such an app, I mean it's free speech, but what offends me the most is that people are using technoligical tools for such deeply human, organic questions. I mean wtf...
Pur your freaking iPhone on sleep and go talk to other humans, for christ's sake!
Where the f*ck is the world going to?
If you're not comfortable being gay, maybe tell your friggin friends if you have any left after you spent your whole fucking life checking you freaking iPhone?
I for myself, as a fully comfortable gay dude, am not offended by such an app, I mean it's free speech, but what offends me the most is that people are using technoligical tools for such deeply human, organic questions. I mean wtf...
Pur your freaking iPhone on sleep and go talk to other humans, for christ's sake!
If being gay was a choice I'd be blowing MAD DUDES!
Alt comment: Homophobia in the palm of your hands.
Alt comment: Homophobia in the palm of your hands.
@Shen moo
If you dropped the anti-Islamic hate your post would have been effective.
As it stands you've used the "freedom of speech speech" as a vehicle for your own bigoted ignorance. Defending freedom of speech so you can spout your own ignorant opinion, whilst allowed, is a dick move.
I'm going to exercise some freedom of speech now.
I think you are a fucking grade A idiot. 9 pound of idiot in a 3 pound bag.
If you dropped the anti-Islamic hate your post would have been effective.
As it stands you've used the "freedom of speech speech" as a vehicle for your own bigoted ignorance. Defending freedom of speech so you can spout your own ignorant opinion, whilst allowed, is a dick move.
I'm going to exercise some freedom of speech now.
I think you are a fucking grade A idiot. 9 pound of idiot in a 3 pound bag.
@SKSith
Agreed. Women are two much work. I can be like, "You bro, wanna suck each other off and then play some Halo? Maybe get a pizza?"
Agreed. Women are two much work. I can be like, "You bro, wanna suck each other off and then play some Halo? Maybe get a pizza?"
Games are my religion, and i'm high on life! But seriously an app like this is just stupid, this is 2011 who the hell cares if you are a gay man, straight or a hot lesbian.
Meh. I've been feeling these urges lately, so I may be in need of a tune-up. I'll pick this app up when it's on sale
I personally go out and hunt gay people nearly every night. Since Gays only come out at night... I carry a wooden stake and some holy water and hunt them out. They suck blood right?
Me and Will Smith. and Frank.
But for reals though, you guys rabblerabble about the stupidest shit. You don't like it? Don't buy it, dont download it, don't GIVE IT FREE FUCKING ADVERTISEMENT! Most of s here wouldn't even know the app existed unless you promoted it, so way to go.
Me and Will Smith. and Frank.
But for reals though, you guys rabblerabble about the stupidest shit. You don't like it? Don't buy it, dont download it, don't GIVE IT FREE FUCKING ADVERTISEMENT! Most of s here wouldn't even know the app existed unless you promoted it, so way to go.
Anyone who thinks people choose to be gay are fucking stupid. Who chooses a harsher life? In some countries you get killed if you're even rumored to be gay? Why would people in such places or here, PEOPLE WHO CAN GET HURT, choose to be gay.
Regardless for how or why people are they way they are, I don't see how anyone should even give a damn. People who care so much about hurting or changing gay people are the creepy ones.
Regardless for how or why people are they way they are, I don't see how anyone should even give a damn. People who care so much about hurting or changing gay people are the creepy ones.
@ The Silent Protagonist: "@Idlepye - And how exactly does that justify religion-bashing? I want to hear this one so explain it real good to me, mmkay?"
You appear to be serious, which is funny. Ok, I will explain it to you "real good", mmkay?
Religion is the source of the vast majority of homophobic sentiment in American. Moreover, "Exodous INternational" is a christian organization created solely to combat the (gasp) threat of homosexuality:
"An Exodus Church Association Member is part of a growing network of churches that have expressed a commitment to stand on the truth of Scripture with regard to homosexuality and have a desire to minister to people in their congregations who are impacted by homosexuality." http://exodusinternational.org/church/exodus-church-association/membership/association-faqs/
I hope that explanation was simple enough for you, you fucking dolt.
You appear to be serious, which is funny. Ok, I will explain it to you "real good", mmkay?
Religion is the source of the vast majority of homophobic sentiment in American. Moreover, "Exodous INternational" is a christian organization created solely to combat the (gasp) threat of homosexuality:
"An Exodus Church Association Member is part of a growing network of churches that have expressed a commitment to stand on the truth of Scripture with regard to homosexuality and have a desire to minister to people in their congregations who are impacted by homosexuality." http://exodusinternational.org/church/exodus-church-association/membership/association-faqs/
I hope that explanation was simple enough for you, you fucking dolt.
@bakewell
bigoted perhaps somewhat but ignorant? hell no ive been to saudo arabia (twice) and seen first hand men openly hitting women in the streets and consider sharia law pathetic and have no respect for any man or woman that follows it. i respect your right to think of me as a prick im also willing to admit that many muslims(most?) are good people but i think islam is an evil backwards religion not because im ignorant of that facts and dont understand it but because i do. if it wasnt for freedom of speach europe and america in particular would be fucked right now.
bigoted perhaps somewhat but ignorant? hell no ive been to saudo arabia (twice) and seen first hand men openly hitting women in the streets and consider sharia law pathetic and have no respect for any man or woman that follows it. i respect your right to think of me as a prick im also willing to admit that many muslims(most?) are good people but i think islam is an evil backwards religion not because im ignorant of that facts and dont understand it but because i do. if it wasnt for freedom of speach europe and america in particular would be fucked right now.
@ShenMoo - wow that was an ignorant thing to say. Do you know anything about Islam at all? I'm an atheist who took a college religion class where we got extra credit for visiting churches and stuff: I went to the local Mosque, did the prayer thing, and met with the Imam. And you know what? They were all mega nice people, men, women, and children and they all appeared to be treated equally. I ended up going back about 4 more times. I'm still atheist, but I have no hate for Muslim people like it so many Americans appear to have.
As for the Freedom of Speech argument: Yes, I would agree that you have the right to say what you want, but Apple isn't allowing certain apps, like porn and political apps. They chose to let in this one, which means they think homosexual bashing is ok but porn and political humor isn't.
And anyone who thinks homosexuality is a choice needs to crawl out of the rock they live under and go meet some fucking people. Your fear and hatred is entirely out of ignorance.
tl;dr - hate sucks no matter who it's against
As for the Freedom of Speech argument: Yes, I would agree that you have the right to say what you want, but Apple isn't allowing certain apps, like porn and political apps. They chose to let in this one, which means they think homosexual bashing is ok but porn and political humor isn't.
And anyone who thinks homosexuality is a choice needs to crawl out of the rock they live under and go meet some fucking people. Your fear and hatred is entirely out of ignorance.
tl;dr - hate sucks no matter who it's against
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