If you think you're all set with your Valentine's Day preparations, you may want to take a look at this Aperture Laboratories gift buyer's guide. Flowers and chocolates might seem like safe bets but be warned of hidden dangers. Perhaps Valve has a better solution?
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@Flamingboar If you had a PS3 you could preorder for that and get the PC version for free with it. Then sell back the PS3 version if your PC version works.
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@Flamingboar If you had a PS3 you could preorder for that and get the PC version for free with it. Then sell back the PS3 version if your PC version works.
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I'm pretty sure there'll be systems in place to avoid shit like this being done.
also, I wouldn't be surprised if your PS3 becomes a logged in Steam Machine, as anyone with multiple PC's/Macs will know, you can only have one machine signed in at a time, so no....
"I'm gonna buy it and give my friend the (PC/PS3) version so we can play online"
Please guys, in fact, not just you guys, but the ENTIRE WORLD, I beg you, please don't take this awesome thing that Valve are giving us, this step forward towards true software ownership, and turn it into a way to get free fucking copies and screw them out of sales!
I just want to buy it once and play it on my PS3, PC and Macbook. But if millions of people go buying installing returning and otherwise taking the piss out of this awesome setup, it's not going to happen again guys.
You'll only screw yourselves, and the rest of us over.
Buy your games. Let your mates buy their games. Don't go screwing Valve out of sales just because they don't want to lock you to a specific platform.
Please guys, do not shoot this gift horse in the fucking mouth.
You seriously don't think Valve has thought about everything you just said and full well expect that to happen? Are they just hoping that millions and millions of people are just going to be on the honor system?
I offer this sage advice instead: Do what you want with your own money because it's your money and not Sexualchocolates.
@runtheplacered - I said: "I'm pretty sure there'll be systems in place to avoid shit like this being done."
I don't understand your comment, i'm saying BUY Portal 2 (if you want it), definitely buy it, but don't go expecting to be able to give copies to your friends or to buy it and return it while STEALING the free copy.
If somehow there is a loophole allowing you to essentially STEAL extra copies, then it's only going to fuck over this whole buy once play on any platform system Valve are trying to GIVE US.
i'm not trying to tell you how or where to spend your money (think runtheplace misread my comment) I'm asking you not to fuck Valve over, appreciate that they're doing an awesome thing, for us, which they have no obligation to do. All i'm doing is asking that you please don't take the piss out of them and use their awesomeness to avoid paying.
While I agree with you in sentiment, I tend to think that this is really a step away from software ownership on the PS3. Portal 2 will probably be tied to our Steam account, even on the PS3, meaning that there is no way to trade it in, or simply re-sell it. If you can't sell something, then you don't really own it.
Also, the saying is "don't LOOK a gift horse in the mouth". It is that, because that is one of the ways you can tell how old a horse is - looking in their mouth.
What the hell is going on? Sexualchocolate is making sense!
I'm 99% sure that Valve has already thought of people who will attempt to sell back and keep the PC version. Now I don't sell my games, but I am curious about how this is going to work.
@Sexualchocolate Don't worry dude! Some of us have actually read your post AND understand it! What you speak is the truth, and I have no idea what anyone else is talking about.
I know the right expression, I just see screwing Valve out of copies because of the extra awesome they're offering will be SHOOTING a gift horse in the mouth rather than just looking at it.
(Imagine, being given a horse and right as the giver hands it over, BAM shoot it in the face. RDR style)
I'm fairly sure that when you buy software it is for you to USE, not to sell. Hell despite being quite a game trader, I really do see a legal position against pre-owned game sales of all kinds.
I mean it says in most manuals that you're allowed to use this software but not copy or edit or sell it - it often puzzles me how used game sales are allowed at all...
i want to buy a game, own that piece of software (I'm talking SOFTWARE RIGHTS ownership) and i want to play it on whatever console i choose, because you know, I own the rights to play that software. Not sell it, not sell the disc that happens to have it on, i just want to play it on any platform I choose (where available) and Valve are offering that.
Which is awesome.
I'm just disppoint @ how many people want to find a way to take advantage of that and get a free game. Cerially Disappoint.
Alright - sorry for doubting that you knew it. I understand now. :)
A few points - when you are selling used games, you aren't selling the software, which is what you aren't allowed to sell. You are selling the disk that the software is on, and that is what I'm talking about owning. I do see how Valve are making it more like you own the software, but I don't really care about that. <shrug>
@ZeeJay - I don't think that anyone would want to re-sell Portal 2. What I'm worried about is the precedent this sets for other games. If I'm not allowed to sell back games that I don't like, then I will be even more picky about which games I buy in the first place. That's why I really don't buy many games on steam, unless they are on an amazing sale, and why I don't buy many PC games in general. It seems like a lot of people don't really care about this, but I know that a lot of people do, also. I think it will make it even harder for the quirky titles, or the new IPs to do well. Most people would rather stick to something they KNOW they will enjoy, if there is no way to get rid of something they aren't sure about.
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4:00 AM on 02.14.2011 | 
Clicking, and happy Valentine's day to those who have such e.t.c
Also BEES
Valve, I am disappoint
You're supposed to say, "FACT: Portal 2 isn't available for preorder on Steam."
@Flamingboar If you had a PS3 you could preorder for that and get the PC version for free with it. Then sell back the PS3 version if your PC version works.
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I'm pretty sure there'll be systems in place to avoid shit like this being done.
also, I wouldn't be surprised if your PS3 becomes a logged in Steam Machine, as anyone with multiple PC's/Macs will know, you can only have one machine signed in at a time, so no....
"I'm gonna buy it and give my friend the (PC/PS3) version so we can play online"
Please guys, in fact, not just you guys, but the ENTIRE WORLD, I beg you, please don't take this awesome thing that Valve are giving us, this step forward towards true software ownership, and turn it into a way to get free fucking copies and screw them out of sales!
I just want to buy it once and play it on my PS3, PC and Macbook. But if millions of people go buying installing returning and otherwise taking the piss out of this awesome setup, it's not going to happen again guys.
You'll only screw yourselves, and the rest of us over.
Buy your games. Let your mates buy their games. Don't go screwing Valve out of sales just because they don't want to lock you to a specific platform.
Please guys, do not shoot this gift horse in the fucking mouth.
You seriously don't think Valve has thought about everything you just said and full well expect that to happen? Are they just hoping that millions and millions of people are just going to be on the honor system?
I offer this sage advice instead: Do what you want with your own money because it's your money and not Sexualchocolates.
That is all.
I don't understand your comment, i'm saying BUY Portal 2 (if you want it), definitely buy it, but don't go expecting to be able to give copies to your friends or to buy it and return it while STEALING the free copy.
If somehow there is a loophole allowing you to essentially STEAL extra copies, then it's only going to fuck over this whole buy once play on any platform system Valve are trying to GIVE US.
i'm not trying to tell you how or where to spend your money (think runtheplace misread my comment) I'm asking you not to fuck Valve over, appreciate that they're doing an awesome thing, for us, which they have no obligation to do. All i'm doing is asking that you please don't take the piss out of them and use their awesomeness to avoid paying.
While I agree with you in sentiment, I tend to think that this is really a step away from software ownership on the PS3. Portal 2 will probably be tied to our Steam account, even on the PS3, meaning that there is no way to trade it in, or simply re-sell it. If you can't sell something, then you don't really own it.
Also, the saying is "don't LOOK a gift horse in the mouth". It is that, because that is one of the ways you can tell how old a horse is - looking in their mouth.
I'm 99% sure that Valve has already thought of people who will attempt to sell back and keep the PC version. Now I don't sell my games, but I am curious about how this is going to work.
I know the right expression, I just see screwing Valve out of copies because of the extra awesome they're offering will be SHOOTING a gift horse in the mouth rather than just looking at it.
(Imagine, being given a horse and right as the giver hands it over, BAM shoot it in the face. RDR style)
I'm fairly sure that when you buy software it is for you to USE, not to sell. Hell despite being quite a game trader, I really do see a legal position against pre-owned game sales of all kinds.
I mean it says in most manuals that you're allowed to use this software but not copy or edit or sell it - it often puzzles me how used game sales are allowed at all...
i want to buy a game, own that piece of software (I'm talking SOFTWARE RIGHTS ownership) and i want to play it on whatever console i choose, because you know, I own the rights to play that software. Not sell it, not sell the disc that happens to have it on, i just want to play it on any platform I choose (where available) and Valve are offering that.
Which is awesome.
I'm just disppoint @ how many people want to find a way to take advantage of that and get a free game. Cerially Disappoint.
A few points - when you are selling used games, you aren't selling the software, which is what you aren't allowed to sell. You are selling the disk that the software is on, and that is what I'm talking about owning. I do see how Valve are making it more like you own the software, but I don't really care about that. <shrug>
@ZeeJay - I don't think that anyone would want to re-sell Portal 2. What I'm worried about is the precedent this sets for other games. If I'm not allowed to sell back games that I don't like, then I will be even more picky about which games I buy in the first place. That's why I really don't buy many games on steam, unless they are on an amazing sale, and why I don't buy many PC games in general. It seems like a lot of people don't really care about this, but I know that a lot of people do, also. I think it will make it even harder for the quirky titles, or the new IPs to do well. Most people would rather stick to something they KNOW they will enjoy, if there is no way to get rid of something they aren't sure about.
yeah i got no valentines :(
at least i have MVC3 :)
I can co-op. I can co-op all night long.