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I hope I can wield a sword and cast magic spells. Dragons and elves would be nice. I hope there's armor and gold. This MMO is going to be so unique.
Aren't these the guys who said they won't do multiplayer, because they hate the thought of putting Nike swooshes in boxes.
Knowing Bethesda's incompetence and bravado levels it'll be bug-riddled throughout its lifetime, have an archaic pricing structure in an increasingly hybrid sector of the genre, and contain systems built around breadth instead of depth.
The only sliver of hope is that it's an entirely different team focusing on a mere two platforms.
The only sliver of hope is that it's an entirely different team focusing on a mere two platforms.
As long as we continue to get top notch, if buggy single player TES games, I care not. May this lead to people to stop clamoring for coop Skyrim.
I know Bethesda will deny it, but this probably is the beginning of the end for Elder Scrolls as a single-player franchise, or at least a preeminent single player franchise. That's too bad. I play video games to get away from other people, not to hang around with 15 year olds who think it's hilarious to call others "fags."
OTOH, Skyrim's writing and "plot" were such a joke that this all kind of seems inevitable in hindsight.
OTOH, Skyrim's writing and "plot" were such a joke that this all kind of seems inevitable in hindsight.
If they don't upgrade the crap out of their game I don't see this taking off at all. Skyrim with 100 people playing in one world wouldn't have made Skyrim any better.
Also, monthly fee = me not interested, ever.
Also, monthly fee = me not interested, ever.
The Elder Scrolls with real-time PVP combat and player populated parties?
What's to worry about... outside of Bethesda Softworks making knee-shots critical hits if not one-hit (career)kills?
What's to worry about... outside of Bethesda Softworks making knee-shots critical hits if not one-hit (career)kills?
Meh.
Meh.
Meh.
I see this going as well as when Bioware took KOTOR and turned it into an MMO with TOR.
Meh.
Meh.
I see this going as well as when Bioware took KOTOR and turned it into an MMO with TOR.
@DepressedOptimist - Todd Howard did say that.
If you;ll note, Bethesda Game Studio's name is not directly attached to the project, too. Zenimax wanted this, not BGS.
If you;ll note, Bethesda Game Studio's name is not directly attached to the project, too. Zenimax wanted this, not BGS.
This is not something that needs to be done to the Elder Scrolls series. Bethesda just fucked up hard.
Why? Why? Why the hell? Why the hell? Why the fuck? Why the fuck? Who asked for this? I never asked for this. No one ever asked for this. God damn it. So what, in place of the awesome singleplayer games, we get a god damn MMO? No. No. No. Just no. No.
I have no idea why people seem to think this will "ruin" the Elder Scrolls series. WoW didn't "ruin" Warcraft 1-3, and so on. If it sucks, they will probably label it as non-canon and we can move on with our lives, waiting 5-6 years for the next Elder Scrolls iteration like we would anyways.
As for the game, I'm interested. If they do it right, it could be amazing. As a huge fan of the Elder Scrolls lore, there are SO many places that people have missed out on by only playing Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
For instance, unless you played TES: Arena, you've never set foot on the Summerset Isles. I'd love to explore some of the game's lands that we only *hear* about in stories in the newer games. I have faith that from a lore perspective, it will at least be interesting, and augment your enjoyment of TES series in general. As for the game, that is yet to be seen, but I'm at least giving it a chance.
As for the game, I'm interested. If they do it right, it could be amazing. As a huge fan of the Elder Scrolls lore, there are SO many places that people have missed out on by only playing Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
For instance, unless you played TES: Arena, you've never set foot on the Summerset Isles. I'd love to explore some of the game's lands that we only *hear* about in stories in the newer games. I have faith that from a lore perspective, it will at least be interesting, and augment your enjoyment of TES series in general. As for the game, that is yet to be seen, but I'm at least giving it a chance.
Towards those that claim people complaining are idiots:
It's not about weather or not this will be a good game. It might as well be a good MMO - maybe like Star Wars the old Republic - The point is just, just like with Star Wars the old Republic, this game doesn't need to exist and would be better as a single-Player or Co-Op game.
They should focus on what those game series are known for - awesome Single Player experiences.
It's not about weather or not this will be a good game. It might as well be a good MMO - maybe like Star Wars the old Republic - The point is just, just like with Star Wars the old Republic, this game doesn't need to exist and would be better as a single-Player or Co-Op game.
They should focus on what those game series are known for - awesome Single Player experiences.
@Meister - There is no evidence that the single player series will end just because there's an MMORPG.
Final Fantasy still has single player entries and spin-offs. I'm sure there will be another Warcraft game down the road. Bioware may have chosen to stick to SWTOR for their franchise, it does not mean everyone else will do the same.
Additionally, Skyrim is set in the fourth age and this MMO waaaaaay back at the start of the third age. Most of TES has been set toward the end of the Third Age during the time of Uriel Septim VII's rule, which ending in TES IV: Oblivion.
The world of Skyrim's story is vastly different even compared to that of Oblivion. Civil Wars all over Tamriel have broken out against the Aldimiri Dominion, Dark Elves and Imperials were run out of Morrowind by the Argonians, Red Mountain is gone and Cyrodil is run by the Aldimri Dominion.
Not the same time or place as this MMORPG. From Skyrim forward, TES has its own direction to go in.
Final Fantasy still has single player entries and spin-offs. I'm sure there will be another Warcraft game down the road. Bioware may have chosen to stick to SWTOR for their franchise, it does not mean everyone else will do the same.
Additionally, Skyrim is set in the fourth age and this MMO waaaaaay back at the start of the third age. Most of TES has been set toward the end of the Third Age during the time of Uriel Septim VII's rule, which ending in TES IV: Oblivion.
The world of Skyrim's story is vastly different even compared to that of Oblivion. Civil Wars all over Tamriel have broken out against the Aldimiri Dominion, Dark Elves and Imperials were run out of Morrowind by the Argonians, Red Mountain is gone and Cyrodil is run by the Aldimri Dominion.
Not the same time or place as this MMORPG. From Skyrim forward, TES has its own direction to go in.
@MagnaChris
I think the concern is not completely without merit. Tell me about all the great Warcraft RTS games that have come out since WoW. I don't really believe Zenimax would go that way, but there is a troubling precedent.
I think the concern is not completely without merit. Tell me about all the great Warcraft RTS games that have come out since WoW. I don't really believe Zenimax would go that way, but there is a troubling precedent.
@Ultor
I don't think Warcraft is a good example because Blizzard works in waves. It took them 12 years to release a new Diablo, which is quite a lucrative franchise. When I said WoW didn't "ruin" Warcraft 1-3, I was speaking in terms of lore.
The RTS trilogy is still available to play, and they are enhanced by everything that happens in WoW -- it gives you a better perspective of the key characters that are involved in the story (Kael'thas, etc).
As Silent hinted at, this is a different age we're talking about here -- I wouldn't put it past the developers to put in a ton of easter eggs for fans that will make replaying games like Morrowind and Skyrim more enjoyable. Even if you loathe MMOs, you still might get some enjoyment out of the lore. If not, I doubt Bethesda will stop making lucrative single player action RPGs.
I don't think Warcraft is a good example because Blizzard works in waves. It took them 12 years to release a new Diablo, which is quite a lucrative franchise. When I said WoW didn't "ruin" Warcraft 1-3, I was speaking in terms of lore.
The RTS trilogy is still available to play, and they are enhanced by everything that happens in WoW -- it gives you a better perspective of the key characters that are involved in the story (Kael'thas, etc).
As Silent hinted at, this is a different age we're talking about here -- I wouldn't put it past the developers to put in a ton of easter eggs for fans that will make replaying games like Morrowind and Skyrim more enjoyable. Even if you loathe MMOs, you still might get some enjoyment out of the lore. If not, I doubt Bethesda will stop making lucrative single player action RPGs.
Fuck you, Bethesda. I don't have time for this. Seriously, how do you expect me to hold down a job and play this all day?
This news sucks. Not because its an incursion on a undesired genre or because it will be exponentially full of errors, but because it rules out Bethesda working on a new Fallout.
I dont get all the hate from what i heard its a different studio making it so it orobably wont play like elder scrolls but will just be set in the same universe. Ive been asking for this forever and all the hate is getting old. Its like the call of duty haters they all came out of the woodwork once the gane hit massive sales. I say dont talk shit until we see the game.
@hermes
Pretty sure Zenimax Online Studios is handling this game. Not Bethesda. So Fallout 4 could easily still be in development.
As could the next single player TES game.
Pretty sure Zenimax Online Studios is handling this game. Not Bethesda. So Fallout 4 could easily still be in development.
As could the next single player TES game.
@hermes
"because it rules out Bethesda working on a new Fallout."
Thank god, just hand the reigns back to Tim Cain and/or JE Sawyer and let them go nuts.
Fallout 3 was a good game but it can hardly call itself a good Fallout game.
"because it rules out Bethesda working on a new Fallout."
Thank god, just hand the reigns back to Tim Cain and/or JE Sawyer and let them go nuts.
Fallout 3 was a good game but it can hardly call itself a good Fallout game.
Well you know actually I'm okay with this, its the only way we'll get another game with the whole world. I REALLY want to see the Summerset Isles and Black Marsh.
Stupid idea, I feel like it ruins the integrity of the game world. Are the DEVs from Skyrim/Oblivion/Morrowind working on this or did they just hand off some TES Bible to this random mother fucker so he can make a game? And like I said, it ruins the game world. I like going through the series slowly, experiencing the various facets of the world one country at a time. So what if I have to wait 4 or 5 years for a new TES game? Instead of getting a bunch of highly detailed games showing off one country at a time we're going to get half-baked versions of all of them.
@Chris
I don't disagree that WoW provides a nice, expanded perspective. But that isn't necessarily all that much consultation if you've been waiting for a new RTS game because you love the Warcraft RTS games. And I doubt Zenimax is going to put the kaibash on single player TES, but given that, and SWTOR, there is an established past of single player games dissapearing when an MMO enters the picture.
I don't disagree that WoW provides a nice, expanded perspective. But that isn't necessarily all that much consultation if you've been waiting for a new RTS game because you love the Warcraft RTS games. And I doubt Zenimax is going to put the kaibash on single player TES, but given that, and SWTOR, there is an established past of single player games dissapearing when an MMO enters the picture.
Lot of negativity her for this. Let's wait for the trailer and gameplay videos before making judgement. I, for one, relish the thought of returning to my favourite area, Cyrodiil.
It would be better if they made another singleplayer game. Making it an MMO seems to me like they'll have to remove everything I love about the series.
Love the TES series. Just playing Morrowind for the first time and am really enjoying it (thanks steam sale). I want to be open minded, but I don't think I'll go for this. I haven't liked any of the MMOs I've tried, and I like the solitary experience, particularly for TES.
The worst thing about this is that they can't make singleplayer games who influence the story anymore, because they would conflict with the MMO,
I think it'd be good if they did something similar to the original Guild Wars. Wherein the entire world is instanced for your party and you can interact with other players in lobby towns. Not sure I'll play this, but interested to see how it turns out.
@Chris
You're missing the point. WoW didn't "ruin" Warcraft 1-3 but it certainly ruined the chance of "Warcraft 4" happening. That's what people like me don't like about this. It won't "ruin" the previous games, but if it succeeds, Skyrim will most likely be the last of its kind.
You're missing the point. WoW didn't "ruin" Warcraft 1-3 but it certainly ruined the chance of "Warcraft 4" happening. That's what people like me don't like about this. It won't "ruin" the previous games, but if it succeeds, Skyrim will most likely be the last of its kind.
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