But Jim, Piracy is not an issue JUST on PC. As many people here have already pointed out, Black ops was leaked on 360 well before the release. As was Mass Effect 2. I still agree with you Jim, in that, Piracy is horrible on PC, but it's because of how easy it is. The PS3 will go the exact same route as the PC and become the most pirated platform of this console generation (second to PC, note why I used the words "console") as will the 360 and the Wii. Especially towards the ends of their lives.
Steam, I believe, is the PC's saving grace. Steam proves that the PC community is alive and kicking AND still buying large amounts of games. I've found that Steam's DRM is vastly outweighed by what you get with steam when you use it as a Digital Distribution platform AND as a way to play/communicate with friends.
In short, If you're a PC Gamer, Use Steam, Don't be an A** and Excellent write up Jim Looking forward to many more.
If you go on a rant at least put some JOURNALISM in your article and state the facts. You're repeating yourself more often than a pirate's parrot.
And before anyone thinks I've downloaded it. No I haven't but I read more than one board to know what's going on.
I even go so far to say that this won't have any effect on sales.
The fact that piracy happens on other systems does not justify the mass piracy seen on PC, you fools.
Hear, hear! I have numerous situations like that, too much to even count. But you can't expect much understanding here... I bet 80% still think pirates somehow infiltrated the building and copied it off a clerks desk or something...
Theft is theft, no matter how you justify it. I would classify my self as an ex thief since I use to down load emulators and roms to play games I couldn't find in stores or buy. Not a big deal but once more even that is theft.
Like just because I am hungry doesn't mean I can steal some food from a store. We can't as a moral society ignore rules we don't like or get in the way of the goals or items we want from life.
There's not gonna be many people that will crack down on anyone that is stealing from games. but come on people, Man up and admit your a thief and not this oh but this or that or ooooooo I wanted this.
In the end even Robin hood was a thief and he would at least admit that. So if your gonna go on the noble high road, how about you start with that.
This leak is a disaster for Crytek and a big "f@#k you" to them for supporting PC gaming. As a PC gamer it makes me ill. I mean shit like this is the reason why Rockstar stopped porting their games to my favorite platform.
looks ridiculously good. but there are a lot of bugs with npc AI/movement/positioning.
looking forward to the final product.
We can go on like this.
The media need to do their part in anti-piracy too, by blatantly ignoring such leaks and potentially igniting the issue 10 fold.
I of course will be purchasing a copy on March 25th and I can't wait.
Also, I love that so many Dtoid editor's wore eye patches this week.
"Pirates use their logic again. The fact that piracy happens on other systems does not justify the mass piracy seen on PC, you fools."
You don't use your brains again. Illegal copying is massive on other systems also for quite some time now. What, you think PS2 is so popular (still) on the old continent for its looks?
Anyways, awsome words dude. Sadly I only got to read half way cause I got distracted to that fine piece of pirate booty. Aargh. xD
The fact that PC is bashed by publishers is because games on PC don't cost as much as on the consoles and because of that consoles have better profit from games. And yeah every console is really easy to hack.
Now i don't have a console because i cant have one, i have no space in my house to have one, and i dont want to pay more than 50 euros for a game the price is just too high. I prefer to have a better pc which i can upgrade whenever i feel like than to have to play to play online games, why should i pay for an online service monthly when the games are expensive as they are?
Xbox gamers are being raped in they're wallets.
I would love to have an XBOX360 or a PS3 so that i could play the exclusives titles, damn there are so many games out there that i would love to play, but i cant have a console right now, so it sucks.
And i love FPS's and i just cant play games without a mouse and a keyboard, things that i have been playing for the last 10 years, so i refuse to pay and play games on consoles because they are too expensive.
Oh and yes i download pirated games, most of the time to see if the game is good enough, sometimes i download just because and never even install the game. But ever since i started to earn some money and a credit card i have been buying games that i truly love, hell i even bought games that i used to play just to add them to my collection. Unfortunately not every one is like me and think of the creators of the game. Because if i buy a game is because i really love it and want to demonstrate it
i remember the russian version of call of pripyat came out months before the english one, but not a leaked beta.
was quite funny playing it with the google translated dialogue! (just like to add that yes i did pirate and play the entire game through, however i then preordered the UK collectors edition which now sits unplayed on my shelf!)
2. Pirates will always pirate. What's so difficult to understand? Make your game better and it will fucking sell. Make it feel like a PC game and it will fucking sell. Involve the PC community and it will fucking sell.
You are a troll Jim. A sad fucking troll.
I also didn't hear about World of Goo not selling well. In fact, I heard the fucking opposite.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/20/world-of-goo-sale-provides-fascinating-results/
3. I don't pirate games. Stop fucking generalizing and praying on a stupid stereotype you idiot troll. Telling game pirates to stop stealing is an idiotic thing. EVERYTHING is pirated. Operating systems, music, games, dvds. Piracy is the result of the freedom of the information age. People find it convinent and many don't give two shits about the developer and just like to be parasites. You can't convince pirates to stop pirating.
4. The excuses of pirates are stupid, but what's the point of telling them to stop making them? If they want to support the developer they will. Maybe if devs showed some love to gamers their games wouldn't get pirated as much. STARCRAFT IS ONE OF THE MOST PIRATED GAMES OF ALL TIME AND IT SOLD A SHITLOAD, because the devs treated the community WELL.
I never buy an album without listening to it, or a film without watching it, parting the cinema, and in a similar vein, I see bands I've never heard of all the time.
I *despise* piracy. I currently have four albums (maybe five) that I haven't paid for, but I attempt to buy them almost every weekend.
Just goes to show how PC gamers get the rap for everything these days. What's next? Are we responsible for world hunger too? I'm sure we'll start the next World War too while we're at it.
Besides, Steam goes to show how stupid your assessment is Jim. Discounts all over the place, some games that couldn't make it through otherwise manage to flourish BECAUSE of PC Digital Distribution.
I understand piracy is a problem on PC. But you'd best wake up and realize consoles & handhelds are getting more pirated than ever. And I'm sick of people like you blaming the entire PC gaming crowd while completely ignoring the one that supports the industry to this very day. Get off your console elitism horse or surrender your gaming card. You're not worthy of it Jim.
I am starting to think about start pirating stuff for this sole reason.
Metro 2033 was the 8th best selling game on Steam of the year and it was entirely single player! Perfect pirate bait, right?!
1. Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision) – $98.2 Million USD
2. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision) – $39.4 Million USD
3. Left 4 Dead 2 (Valve) – $36.0 Million USD
4. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts) – $25.4 Million USD
5. Sid Meier’s Civilization V (2K Games) – $21.9 Million USD
6. Portal (Valve) – $20.0 Million USD
7. Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks) – $17.0 Million USD
8. Metro 2033 (THQ) – $13.4 Million USD
9. Mafia II (2K Games) – $11.9 Million USD
10. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II: Chaos Rising (THQ) – $10.8 Million USD
Again, fuck you Jim.
Anyhow, you should, before ranting aimlessly, next time perhaps ponder the financial state other people might be in, im not defending the spineless bastards that pirate a game and play it on-end without supporting the developer, im just saying not all piracy is bad, and that not all good games have demos that represent them fully, or at all.
Personally, i will not buy a game until i test it's SP mode completely, and even then if i do not like it i will not buy it, because i just do not have the 50€ a pop to spare, with a new release coming out every other day, COD is a good example.
PEACE!
Like others have said, you do seem to be up on some sort of console high horse. Pirating happens everywhere, and that's a fact. It happens on all consoles, it's just easier on some. You won't stop it because there will always be someone out there who wants to steal. What you can do is give people a reason to buy your goods. Make them appealing. This is why I both agree and disagree with DRM. Sure, it's needed to help stop piracy to an extent but a lot are just plain awful and make buying and installing the game more annoying and difficult than pirating it, which pushes more people towards piracy. Assassin's Creed 2 is an example, although they've released a patch that gets rid of the need for a constant internet connection, thankfully.
It's stupid to group and stereotype a whole platform of gamers for the actions of some and ridiculous to suggest ignoring the platform altogether.
Besides. Look at how well Steam does and how digital downloads are pushing on.
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*reads article*
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*reads comments*
I....I don't even.
"OH I JUST PIRATE TO SEE IF THE GAMES GOOD DUUUURP"
Reviews, gameplay vids, demos, word of mouth. These things help.
"OH I PIRATE BECAUSE THE DEV IS MEAN TO ITS COMMUNITY DUUUURP"
Then don't buy their product. Having to pirate a game just to spite that dev only makes you a leashed bitch in the eyes of the dev.
"I'M A PIRATE. I DON'T CARE DUURRRP."
Well, good. At least you're honest. You're still a thief in my eyes.
Seriously, have we REALLY gone this low?
The thing is.... I own 280 games on Steam. I'll probably download it and still purchase it when it's released.
Where do you want to go with this? Giving things like this so much spotlight is hurting Crysis2 even more than some elitist PC gamers downloading a beta build.
To make a nice car analogy (because we all love them) it's like this:
BMW has a garage with an unlimited supply of cars who can't drive but look pretty. Now you're the one who shouts into the public that the garage isn't closed, giving directions where the garage is and telling everyone that they COULD get a not drivable car for free.
So who is the bad guy now?
I don't mean to defend piracy in any way but your 'crusade' against PC gaming gets a little old now and with articles like these you're just a middle man for piracy.
There was a time where you only got your warez from IRC, private FTPs. Things were pretty elitist and you had to have connections. Now it's only browsing to your favorite torrent site and clicking on a link. Things don't get better if they are 'advertised' on major gaming sites.
That said, great article, and great response by Killias2.
This is stupid. Regardless of anything else said, this is simple pettiness. You act as if the PC market exists in a vacuum, and the people who pirate the PC can't also own an Xbox or a Wii. Lashing out at anyone who games on a PC makes you sound like a political pundit who attacks "liberal" or conservatives". The people who actually pirate the game are the villains here, not anyone who simply likes to play games on a computer.
You destroy your own point by turning an argument into a pompous rant, full of vitriol and spite.
there are lots of things here you have to remember.. piracy is more rampant on pc because the sales numbers are lower than on consoles, and the percentage of pirated copies is always greater.
not bashing pc gaming by no means, just saying that pirating a pc game vs a console game is like pirating the indie musicians music vs kanye west or somebody.
i hate pirating, but i aint perfect.. i dont know what it is.. i guess its because of my love for video games.. but when folks tell me theyve pirated music or movies.. it doesnt bother me, but video games always makes me mad.
oh and jim, what are your views on piracy of games that are no longer printed or not available on digital platforms like steam or virtual console?
Cowards? I don't consider pirates to be PC gamers. No one should. I feel fucking insulted.
I buy all my games. You probably pirate more than I do.
The only things I have ever pirated are things that simply wouldn't work with the normal version, sometimes even as a result of DRM.
"If I were EA, I would actually pull the PC version of Crysis 2 right now."
Who made the original Crysis a success you idiot? That's right, the PC!!
Wanna know why it didn't sell more than it did though? BECAUSE IT WAS UNOPTIMIZED, MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY ANOTHER FIRST PERSON MILITARY SHOOTER, MANY PEOPLE WERE HAPPY PIRATING IT JUST TO TEST THEIR MACHINE, MANY PEOPLE COULDN'T RUN IT AND MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK IT WORTH PLAYING EXCEPT AT HIGH SETTINGS.
This stupid article makes me so fucking angry. People who post shit like this should hand in their journalism badge.
I too am not that innocent (5% of all the games I played weren't leagal, but mostly Japanese), and I get your point.
If I really want a game I wait for it and buy the living sh*t out of it when it comes out (Solatorobo for that matter will be my next victim, I'll buy it 2 or 3 times (First full price, the other two when they are 5 $ to offer to my friends))
It is sad that piracy destroys studios.

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