I REALLY doubt this was the fault of pirates. Crytek really should have checked their security better.
But I still agree with you on the whole "pirates need to stop making excuses for their actions" thing. Just that I find it strange Crytek thinks this was the fault of pirates, when it was an internal beta that was leaked, so someone who had access screwed up. (Or was an asshole.)
1. You single out the PC and, to a lesser extent, the PS3. This makes NO sense. The Wii could possibly be the easiest game platform to pirate for. The 360 is no different, if you're willing to give up XBL. The PSP and DS are also both rampant with piracy, not to mention the iPhone. Acting like this is a demonstration of PC's unique problems is beyond the pale absurd.
2. Believe it or not, you're wrong when you say that "pirates would buy the game otherwise." Being a game journalist who follows this shit, you should know that this tidbit has been proved false even by prominent game developers. There are lost sales, which is why I largely agree with you, but they aren't even CLOSE to 1:1, especially when you consider lost sales at initial MSRP.
3. You basically act like the PC deserves this, when the actions of a few have caused this and when similar things happen on other platforms. Nothing justifies some of he excesses of DRM, as DRM doesn't stop piracy at all. I seriously doubt it's meant to stop piracy, even. It's just meant to provide more control over how you use their product, as well as reduce used game sales. Also, saying that the PC deserves to get skipped when the game will likely be pirated elsewhere is just being an asshole. Grow up and stop talking down on PC gaming.
4. PC gaming's main weaknesses are relative. They never sold as well as console games, and a lot of the whole "collapse" of PC gaming is a myth. The fact is plenty of games still make bank, despite the fact that many of these games are some of the most pirated games in the platform.
Anyhow, again, great freaking article Jim! Great word.
People are too greedy and selfish :S most of people I know they owned consoles and pirate the game on PC.. what the hell.
and I do really hate execuse that those people always made to make them feel good.
So if I walk to wal-mart and take one of their televisions and just walk away with it can I just say "oh I wasn't going to buy it anyway"? No, I would go to jail in a second. The only reason pirates do what they do is because they know they can get away with it, those no good piece of scum. Thanks for ruining the industry, hope you guys consider yourselves "thieves" and not "gamers."
Jim, I pirate games. My friends do it too. I don't judge them for it. I don't care. It was free, convenient, and risk-free. That's reason enough for me. It pisses me off when they try to justify it, though.
I'm a thief. So are they. Thank you for saying what needed to be said.
If you are someone who rips, cracks, or distributes pirated games, then MAYBE you can play the "I'm a hero fighting against the system!" card. But if you're just downloading the games, you're not helping anyone but yourself. I don't care what your seed ratio is, you fuck.
Secondly, you really like to ride the wave of this imaginary fame about PC that console industry rolled out in recent years, even dough these points are old news being debated for years by PC community (something consoles don't really have even now). And that is fairly weird for someone that wants to be "different", and smells of failed washout.
And thirdly, hope you enjoy your new country: americaisretarded . com
Either way, I'll probably buy it. That video was fuckin'-A gorgeous.
I'm not going to pretty up my words with 'I largely agree' or 'I almost agree', none of that BS. I fully, 100% agree. People who keeps on saying anything in addendum are just fooling themselves and worse, they DARE mock our intelligence by saying there's a proper moral reasoning for it. There isn't.
While I certainly won't take the moral high-ground here since I'm as guilty as anyone, this is quite possibly the WORST incident of piracy in recent memory, and it's sickening. I wouldn't be surprised if developers use this as a perfectly valid reason to simply stop developing for PC (though please, Bioware, don't get rid of Mass Effect 3!).
The PC doesn't deserve to die (plenty of legit, paying customers as is), but incidents like this make things hard to defend.
Fist get the facts straight, the reason that this game is on torrent sites is an issue internally with either EA or Crytek not piracy
Apart from the piracy issue or your stance on it the fact is you are trying to say that some forms of piracy are less of a problem that others, As you earn a wage because of the games industry you shout about game piracy, if your worked in the movie industry would your tune change.
It is only your opinion that piracy is effecting sales, and I have yet to see any hard evidence that proves that it results in lost sales.
Regardless of piracy Steam has shown that a game sold at the right price point will sell and will sell very well
Look at the press release from Crytek and EA, straight away they blame all of pc gamers, frankly i find theirs and your attitude disgusting. I am fully capable of getting the leaked version of the game but i choose not to, but EA still considers me a pirate because I game on the pc WTF so If i am to be accused of something i havent done maybe i should engage in piracy to make their statement true
I challenge you for the next couple of months to publish the release dates of games as they appear on torrents regardless of platform, I think you will find xbox usually are being pirated a week or more before release, but thats unlikely to happen isnt it as it may effect your advertised revenue
So that your whole rant imo has nothing to do with piracy but its just a handy subject matter to increase traffic to the site
If the pc market is so small and not worthy of attention why are you even talking about it ?
Finally, somebody else who speaks sense in this thread.
Honestly, I really don't like a console blogger on a mostly console website attacking the PC when consoles share most of it's problems.
It's bullshit.
Oh and remember that charity game pack they had a few months ago? Yeaeeeah.
This doesn't sound like a big deal, but boy, I went fucking CRAZY with torrenting for a while. I was close to filling up my 750 GB HDD.
You guys are pathetic, thanks for justifying everything Jim just wrote.
Black ops was out for 360 about maybe 2-3 weeks before release, that being the most common one I can remember.
Jeez Jim, no ones gonna be all...I have Crysis 2 no need to buy it! This is a buggy uncomplete build and even if it wasn't, people will buy it for the multiplayer. See there are a couple nice side effects to piracy such as adding more value to multiplayer and conectivity featuers like social, leaderboards and online co-op. Many of these features would not be advancing at the rate they are now if there wasn't a motivator. ;)
Think of this as a crummy Demo! I'm waiting for a bug free official demo but will buy this for the co-op and online fun time.
This has been leaked, what did you honestly expect would happen
Agreed with killias2
But it sure sucks that someone leaked it online,this will not end well
Come on Jim, I expect you to do some research.
I guess you wanked a little too much on Steve Jobs' "Reality Distortion Field"... meh...
Jeez Jim, no ones gonna be all...I have Crysis 2 no need to buy it! This is a buggy uncomplete build and even if it wasn't, people will buy it for the multiplayer. See there are a couple nice side effects to piracy such as adding more value to multiplayer and conectivity featuers like social, leaderboards and online co-op. Many of these features would not be advancing at the rate they are now if there wasn't a motivator. ;)
Think of this as a crummy Demo! I'm waiting for a bug free official demo but will buy this for the co-op and online fun time.
But like you said, I can't blame them at all. At the end of the day, games cost money to make, they need to make that money back. It must be depressing as hell to be someone who worked 2-3 years on a game only to see your "fans" go out and gleefully steal it.
i'm on the way to acquiring this beta right now, and i don't feel in the least bit bad about it! from what i hear it's certainly not the finished product so it's hard to say this will hurt sales. in fact the general reaction seems to be quite favourable - apparently the game not only looks good, but is well optimised this time, something crytek were widely criticised for last time. seems like "can it run crysis 2?" is not a meme!
i have to wonder how many reviewers, bloggers, mags and sites will pick this up for a sneak peek! journalistic integrity is one thing, but this is an early look at the next best looking game ever!
i trust you won't be amongst them right jim?
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Bravo good sir. Never have I seen such a coherent argument against piracy all together in one place. While all the arguments for piracy I've heard seem to be logical fallacies, there's usually one the arguer forgets to address and the pirates jump out to bleat it mindlessly. My only criticism to this article is it seems to unfairly target PC gamers. If console gamers could pirate as easily as PC gamers (without losing online gameplay) then no doubt they would do so with just as much gusto. The problem lies not with PC gamers specifically but with the majority of people in general being self-absorbed jerks with no care for the problems of others (in this case the game developers getting sacked or having their pay cut).
And all you out there pirating games, I hope you get caught and fined. For everything, the shirt on your back, your house, your car. Even your little dog!
Why? Because due to piracy good people out there making games are losing their jobs. Losing the shirt off their back, losing their cars, losing their homes. And they worked for that stuff
Someone's gonna get fired
It's always pirates pirates pirates, UT3 poor sales, terrible and refused to listen in the beta BLAME PIRATES
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/01/16/valve-pirates-are-underserved-customers
In the first example the game got pirated by number of people yet everyone bought the game eventually. Without that option developer wouldn't have sold those copies. In the latter example the game would have gone gone to used games bin.
tl;dr; Buy the games you like and support devs and creativity.
ITS A FUCKING CRIME.
YOU'RE FUCKING THIEVES. END OF DISCUSSION.
I really hate that some people branded us PC gamers as pirates.
It's really sad that there's so much pirating on PC even the game is cheaper than consoles.
I don't pirate games even on consoles(I own DS) I know it's friggin hard and tire to make games and I really love videogames.
It'd be suck if one day there's no cool games to play on PC anymore and I don't think those pirates will care, They'll just move their asses to consoles instead and pirating it.. they are like a parasite, PC dies they move to consoles.
anyway, sorry for my grammar tho, im learning english.
...because the majority of us DON'T DO THIS.
/facepalm
The logic shared by the masses in this post is debatable.

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