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And the gamers who play them: Girl Gamers photo

For this month's musing I chose to digest the sub-culture of 'Girl Gamers' that has managed to quickly surface alongside the increased popularity of gaming in the mass media.

So to avoid any confusion, the term 'Girl Gamers' is intended to define the populace of female gamers who identify with said terminology and who particularly rely on the alienation of their gender as a means of gaining attention from the larger gamer demographic.

Pics or it didn't happen? Hit the jump to hear more of my take on what being a 'Girl Gamer' is all about.

[Original Photo by Miss Fawn

If one attempts to dig deep within the reserves of videogame history, it's unlikely that they'll uncover the instance of the very first woman who graced her femininity upon a console (well, aside from the Computer Space ad, that is). There are several reasons why this moment was never documented -- mostly because videogame history is predominantly about videogames (imagine that!), but partly because members of the opposite sex playing games isn't very noteworthy in the most fundamental scope of things. I play. You play. We all play, with or without va-jay-jays.

Facts are facts, however, and despite the occasional news announcement reminding the public that female gamers actually exist (apparently at 38% of gamers strong), we all know that videogames are predominantly enjoyed by a male demographic. That being said, there is also no denying the slender aura of novelty that immediately adheres itself to a woman who plays games, whether she craves the inherent attention or attempts to avoid it.

This dichotomy, while not unique, is of interest to the likes of marketing gurus who determinedly pervert this gender-dissonance to their advantage. Thus, what is eventually revealed in the history of gaming media is the attractive (and often scantily clad) female gaming idol embodied by such women as Morgan Webb, Olivia Munn, and Jessica Chobot. All beautiful and consistently visual, these women and others were the few mass-displayed female figures in the gaming industry to be ravenously consumed by gaming's very own male demographic.


Sex sells, and while the rest of the female gamers remained ambivalent to gender differentiation amidst their game playing, the few esteemed faces of the beautiful rooted themselves as the visual representatives of the 'Girl Gamer'. The collective reception and praise of these visual idols by a male-dominant industry garnered an image-heavy notion of the 'Girl Gamer', a notion which to this day has yet to be the equal case for male gamers.

Galleries of E3 booth babes, "hot...naked...and blue" Cortana cosplays, and any number of chicks with joysticks establish a visual narrative for gaming women that heightens gender alienation while simultaneously muffling the significance of the woman gamer's voice. There is no doubt that Ubisoft took advantage of this exact instance by baiting the accomplished, intelligent, and most importantly attractive producer Jade Raymond to the gaming audience to steer public attention to their game Assassin's Creed. In turn, the only surface-level 'heroes' or 'icons' of the female gaming community are the beautifully unattainable likes of Munn or Webb, regarded first and foremost in this industry for their looks.

And so the standard for the 'Girl Gamer' is set and an equation for success is discovered. Take an attractive woman and pair her alongside a gaming device of some sort. Congratulations! You've captured the attention of a massive chunk of the gaming demographic. What better avenue is there to market your gaming products? Hot girls are hot, gaming boys like gaming girls, and most importantly we're all having fun with our irresponsible gender stereotypes. Nothing wrong with fun, guys!

So what, then? Structured by the mass media as a marketing device and fed by a surge of online egoism (thanks to social media sites such as MySpace and the proliferation of digital cameras), the 'Girl Gamer' specimen has, in turn, infected the masses with false promises of niche-specific fame and glory. In the same way people fantasize about becoming a celebrity, these 'Girl Gamers' seek the attention of becoming the next 'it' girl of their respective gaming community through the prolific distribution of sexually charged images and continuously capitalizing on their sex -- both of which, consequently, have relatively little to do with gaming itself.

What's to follow but the Chobot wannabes slathering their tongues across portable consoles for the camera, or the suspiciously excessive amount of 'Girl Gamer' self-portraits involving various game-related paraphernalia (or lack thereof)? Whatever neutral connotations of women gamers existed in the past are overthrown with the photographic barrage of sexually charged images brought to us by the 'Girl Gamers'. They're beautiful, they know which side is their good side, and they're comfortable enough with their sexuality to let us know they're proud of it. If you've got it, flaunt it. Right?

The women who choose to use their body to visually manifest their 'gaming experience' (by way of game-themed suggestive photographs, for example) express themselves via the avenue of the mass marketed 'Girl Gamer', a goal that is altogether vapid and mediocre in its pursuit. If anything, these girls successfully stick out as a glaring instance of the disappointing commercialization of gaming in popular culture, their antics for attention comparatively as bad as a common reality TV show contestant.

Furthermore, it's one thing for females to collectively enjoy games together, but it's another for these 'Girl Gamers' to assert themselves as leading figures of the female gaming community when no one has asked them to do so (unless, of course, it's a sponsored gaming company looking for cash money). This ill-founded goal disrupts a gaming community in which gamers can agreeably interact with each other regardless of their sex by disturbing the space with sexually-oriented images that immediately derail neutrality and signify more differences than likenesses.

 

Gamers who prefer the absence of a gender-biased gaming community ultimately find these 'Girl Gamers' as unnecessary and obnoxious entities desperately seeking attention. For women gamers such as myself who admire the well-spoken gaming female (see Jane Pinckard, Tracey John, Leigh Alexander, and our own Colette Bennett) as opposed to the gaming beauty queens, these 'Girl Gamers' are downright irritating.

It's unlikely that the trendy alliteration of 'Girl Gamer' will fade away anytime soon or that the equivalent 'Guy Gamer' (see Mega64's Sexy64 for more information) will actually be realized. Unfortunately, a similar fate rings true with the 'Girl Gamer' herself as long as the industry continues to cater to its male demographic, and as long as there are women who fashion themselves alongside those same standards.

A more pressing urgency today is the shortage of intelligent women speakers and writers who strongly represent themselves with words as opposed to images. While women such as Jessica Chobot have made certain strides to leave their more exhibitionist pasts behind, as long as there is a constant appraisal of their attractive and more visually accessible adversaries, the battle between the pen and the larger picture continues to rage on.

Thus, the aspirations associated with the 'Girl Gamer' are damaging to both male gamers and female gamers. Gender distinguishment plays little to no part in one's ability to play or enjoy videogames, let alone define them as a gamer to begin with. And finally, let's all remember that "gamer" is an asexual term, a descriptor that belongs to everyone who plays games despite gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation, and is absolutely lovely in its nascent ambiguity.


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power-glove's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:11
power-glove
You have been talking about doing this for a long time haven't you. Excellent Article.

These separate "gamer" phrases were spawned from a need of these groups to defend themselves from being persecuted. Unfortunately, we live in a gaming culture that asks the question "Are you a girl?" and then either makes fun of her or ask ridiculous questions like "Are you hot?"

The gay gamer term came from people who constantly fear the homophobic statements that are constantly being made towards them.

They need to use these term not because they love the terms but because they fear needless persecution from the online gaming community and they need a very simple way to group together like minded individuals to play with who will not bother them for doing this.

We need the gamer community in general to start treating everyone with some decency so that gamers will not have to ostracized for their differences.

Maxvest, nailed on the head with his first comments.
Yashoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:12
Yashoki
Ok ok, let me get this straight. GIRLS. Are using the fact that they have BOOBS to get attention among a community?

Thats news to me!
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:15
Demtor
"Girl Gamer" seems like a too broad a term to me. There are girls that love to game, have fun playing them and are actually intelligent. They rock! I only wish I could meet one, lol.

Then there is the other half... a whore is a whore, of course of course. Dress yourself up in controllers all you want, the fact still remains that attention seeking behavior like that is a complete turn off for most sensible people and reeks of desperation. Attention whores = not at all cool. Sorry. Go to the bars and get your attention the old fashioned way if you must but leave my games alone.
animateria's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:17
animateria
Good write up.

I never thought those girls as 'gamers' though.
Just girls posing in front of gaming controllers and such.

Its just the usual male dominant culture creating its own fantasies. There is a reason why a lot of ads targeting males have hot females in them after all.

I real girl gamer would be the equivalent of a regular male gamer. And I'd rather meet someone like that.
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:19
PrinceofCannedPeaches
Who are you, Qais Fulton? Diction, Tiff!

I'm not going to argue with the ways of the world - if they're there and they're cute, we're going to pay attention to them anyways. I just don't see any reason to exploit it: if I wanted pr0n, I'd fucking watch pr0n.
Release82's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:21
Release82
Girls play games now?? Your kidding me, right? I would have never guessed it. Never in a million years. Ever.
Yashoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:22
Yashoki
Did anybody notice that tiff linked practically naked cosplay and embedded pictures of some cute girls?

Also, isnt it hilariously ironic that i ended up staring at the pictures more than i read the article? :P
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:26
king3vbo
MORE COMMENTS MEAN YOU GET LAID
grrlaction's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:27
grrlaction
I just deleted a novel of a comment attributing the rise in "Girl Gamer" culture to the hegemony inherent in our society, further reinforced by Foucault's theory of gaze and Other. But then I decided to STFUJPG. Maybe I'll continue the discourse in a c-blog. Or maybe I'll just, you know, play games. Because if you, as I do, prescribe to the notion of gaze-as-power, talking about only makes it less likely it will go away.

Also, cocks.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:30
brainderailment
Olivia Munn =/= gamer.

"And finally, let's all remember that "gamer" is an asexual term..."

That being said, I decree that we should abolish the term "girl gamer" considering we don't refer to females who drive cars as "girl drivers."
Brilliam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:30
Brilliam
Absolutely brilliant article. Mad props. I actually wanted to write a similar article at some point, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head on all points.

The real shame about polarizing figures like these in the industry is that people generally tend to fall on two equally chauvinist sides of the fence-- the types who lap this stuff up, and those who dismiss such people as "whores." It's really difficult for me, personally, to form an opinion on this. On one hand, I think it's absolutely appalling that these women not only THINK they represent gamers who identify as female, but it seems EVERYONE ELSE thinks so too (everyone else being the male gamer population at large).

What we all need to realize is that it's irrelevant. I don't know anyone who'd call the MySpace kids who listen to hardcore bands and do the same thing with guitars relevant; the question is, why is it relevant to games? In my opinion, it's because there's no real alternative. Indie games are indeed starting to gain traction, but there are none that I'm aware of that are being made by women, or even taking into perspective the identity of female gamers. In music, there is certainly chauvinistic pap, but for every Pussycat Dolls there's a Patti Smith. In film, for every Jessica Alba there's a Chloe Sevigny. Even pornography has feminist alternatives. However, the games industry is sorely lacking in strong female role models; the games-journo world, despite Dtoid's efforts, still hugely male. From a production standpoint, there are few female voices, aside from Jade Raymond (who I'm still on the fence on, mostly because all press about her was mostly "OMG BOOBS" and not so much "So is she an interesting creative director, or a pretty face to push sales?"), and there's virtually no exposure for female programmers, who most certainly exist (I live next to Ubisoft MTL, and surely SOME of those girls who go in that building daily are programming). Until there's a successful, alternative press, gender identity in games will stagnate-- and, in my opinion, the world's view of VGs as "art." Maybe I'm expecting too much from the industry. But, I'm still blindly optimistic that one day, "Grrl gamers" will actually be as subversive and socially beneficial as the "riot grrl" movement from whom they took their name.
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:30
Colette Bennett
Great job Tiff. I really appreciate this topic being taken on objectively and thoughtfully. Also, I really would like to go to Donkey Kong Cuntry, preferably with you.
Yashoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:33
Yashoki
Also, why does it matter if these "grrl" gamers pose in sexy shots with controllers up their ass? Any other gamer is a girl wouldn't care because they're not defined by their gender so it's not an issue. It just seems like another redundant issue in my opinion.

There are always going to be attention whores where ever you go and whatever you do. Be it paintballing or hardcore canasta players.

P.S I LOVE these "GRRL" Gamers. Why? Because they send me sexy pix.
JohnnyWadd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:34
JohnnyWadd
Gawd has this freakin topic been done to death.
Mustin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:34
Mustin
Awesome article.

I don't think they get in the way of anything though. No big deal. And girl gamers tend to get in the sack quicker. Which is lovely for a deformed manbeast like myself.

Alas, playing video games is straight nerdy so we don't really need to break it down, but there will always be those titles assigned like "gay gamer" or "casual gamer" or "occasional gamer with a side of really intense do-nothing-else-until-I-finish-this-damned-Zelda-game then manage to get back to work and then not play video games for nearly months at a time until the next God of War comes out gamer" like myself.

GOD I LOVE TITTIES
Hollie Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:35
Hollie Bennett
Wow, Ron's post was spot on and amazing.
welkstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:37
welkstar
Great article!

Although, you've gotta admit, the G4 girls do seem to know their stuff. I mean, they could just be reading lines, but it appears that they actually are "true" gamers. Keep in mind that they're probably also paid to project a certain persona.

I'm not trying to defend them, but has anyone met Morgan Webb, Olivia Munn, or Jessica Chobot? What are they really like?
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:38
mistic
Great read!

Though I have to admit, I don't mind the girls posting pictures of themselves with gamingrelated attributed being licked on and stuffed where it shouldn't be stuffed... I know how dirty those controllers really are, so licking them would rather be a proof of NOT being a gamer :p

I mean they're constantly being held by sticky, sweaty hands and thrown on the floor or where-ever ( since they went with wireless-controllers ), much as I love my 360, I'd never put the controller in my mouth :p
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:39
Jetsetlemming
The girl in the third pic looks 12. Bad tiff. >:O


My girlfriend is a stereotypical "Games are dorky and for kids, ugh don't talk to me about them evar" girl. :( And yet, she dorks out over anime and sailor moon and poetry and classical authors and shit. Where's the justice in the world!? ;_;
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:51
Sharpless
This is why I absolutely love you, Tiff: I actually agree with you. :D Seriously though, the bulk of the women on this site are amazing. It's so good to not be surrounded by stereotypes.

I respect a woman who simply lives her life and exudes sexuality by just being herself. Not by walking around half-naked, not by licking electronics, not by thrusting their chests out and putting on their "sexy face" -- just by being their awesome selves. THAT is hot, not this asinine, lowest common denominator posturing.

If cosplay is someone's thing, then fine. But if you do it for popularity, for attention, then screw it. There's a difference between Jessica Chobot licking a PSP and Colette Bennett biting an NES controller. (The difference? Neither is as hot as this.) Anyway, Tiff, you rock. Good article. I can't support this argument enough.
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:51
Tiff
The topic in question is not one of how much of a gamer one woman is from a next, but what sort of stereotyped message they're portraying about their gender in relation to the activity via these exhibitionist methods. Regardless of how many games a woman has played or how accomplished she is at gaming, photos like these are detrimental to the gender neutrality of gaming as a whole.

Furthermore, regardless of whether a photo is taken 'as a joke' or 'for fun' it's meaning is entirely out of the creators hand when it's released within a public domain. Private photos shared between friends and family are one thing, but public photos that are yielded to the masses are displayed to be viewed, and in the context of the Internet it's likely that the individual's actual personality, intent, or interests will be devoid entirely.
episodic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 15:55
episodic
I liked the article. It was pretty interesting, but not a lot that I've not heard before. The views are usually either from the people who are Gamers and then girls, or on the other side girls who like to attract a certain kind of boy. It's two different things, two different aims.

I'm in your camp though, I'd rather have a "girl gamer" rolemodel, if there is such a thing, that's more along the wavelength of yourselves, than one whos boobs I've seen than ideas I've heard.

Sorry this isn't more LENGTHY, but time flies.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:06
MaxVest
The reason I've been pressing on this issue is precisely because Dtoid has a very healthy community of women who game, and practically none of the "girl gamers" who perpetuate negative or gender-based stereotypes.

That leads me to believe that the "girl gamers" who exploit their physicality have a very limited purpose, and that purpose is advertising. In a community site such as this one, advertising is generally not well-received. So putting gendered communication theory aside for a moment, I don't really see the predicted disruptive effects manifesting themselves in major ways on this site.

Do women here have to put up with stupid comments sometimes? Absolutely (and I have a few non-obvious theories about why). But are they in some way impeded from becoming important and respected community members? I don't feel that way.
Nessie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:07
Nessie
I miss Sarah Lane. :<

I like the article, and i appreciate you clarified what type of Girl Gamer you are writing about. It does irk me that women are so publicized over gaming and some companies use it as some sort of advantage. (Look up TheFragDolls)
Brilliam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:08
Brilliam
Please, commenters, PLEASE realize that saying "a real girl gamer turns me on, not controllers and nudity" is actually COMPLETELY DETRIMENTAL to this argument and you're feeding into the gender-as-gamer-identifier issue that .tiff is talking about. This isn't about what kind of game-playing woman turns you on. It's about accepting female gamers in the exact same way you'd accept male gamers: by calling them cheaters when they're better than you at Counter-Strike, or having an in-depth argument with them about just why you hate Passage so much, or laughing your asses off at a stupid game of WarioWare, or LANning up for some Starcraft, without thinking about the tits or dicks that may or may not be in attendance.
Black Aspen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:15
Black Aspen
Tiff, I just want to say that this is one of the best-written articles that I've come across on Destructoid. Really, this was a subject that I paid very little attention to, because I try to just ignore your definition of a Gamer Girl anyways. Your article put a little passion in me to criticize those who stand as an example of it, instead of just ignoring them.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:21
MaxVest
@Brilliam: I'm not sure I agree with your characterization. I read this more as a communications critique on the pervasiveness, power, and ultimate shallowness of the sexually-charged images that are tied to the concept of "girl gamer".

To combat the message of these images (a form of media which is particularly stimulating to visually-oriented males), a written media consisting of the eloquent and passionate voices of women who game is necessary. Words are less likely to introduce sexual impulses into the equation than provocative poses, and men and women alike will be more able to STFUAJPG.

Then again, my edumacation is a little rusty.
gamingangel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:30
gamingangel
Great article Tiff! What I am aiming for with my site is exactly what you describe, a place where we can write intelligently about games. That's why the pics of us are animated so people pay attention to our words, not who we are.

On my site, I may slip sometimes and use the term girl-gamer, but I try to use female gamer or women gamers more often. Unfortunately the fun has been taken out of the term girl-gamer and it has become a marketing buzzword to mean put a hot girl playing your game and it will sell.
Brilliam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:33
Brilliam
@MaxVest: which characterization are you speaking about? I agree with pretty much everything you say; what I'm saying is that people insisting that knowledge is "sexy" is still lending power to "sexiness," which, for most of these people, is discriminatory in and of itself (unless 100% of dtoid's readers are pansexual, in which case I take it back). Is this making sense? I'm not sure I'm communicating my point, or quite understanding yours?
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:43
Dan CiTi
Tiffany is my favorite girl gamer.
dubbya's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:43
dubbya
I assume you're pretty tired with reading individual opinions, so I'll just say, solid article man, keep it up
Rider Chop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:43
Rider Chop
how come all those pictures are featuring the 360 controller? it worked well for the X-butt though.
Mabec's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:45
Mabec
Can any smart and sexy woman tell me where i can find that t-shirt with DKC???
Dogen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:46
Dogen
I agree with most of the points made in your post, and those that I don't agree with were well written and have gotten me thinking.

Here's what I keep coming back to: there are certainly very attractive women (and men) who game. They should be entitled to post pictures of themselves, with or without their gaming accoutrements as they see fit. To me, the nerdcore photos are less about demeaning women and gaming, and more about some people having fun with a camera and their old snes. If I judge the spirit of those photos correctly-and there is a strong possibility that I'm wrong, I'll admit- it looks like a great time was had by all in their creation. That's a big part of what's sexy about it, the playfulness that's expressed.

It seems to me that what's needed to bring about the changes you outline is a clear divide between the legitimate aspects of gaming culture, that is, those worthy of coverage by serious game journalists, and the exhibitionist tendencies of the gaming community. Problems arise in drawing that line on a site like Destructoid, where the community and the journalism tend to blend together. To that issue, I have no solution.

I don't know many girls who game. For those I do know, we tend to interact on the same level as the rest of my friends. Which leads me to my final question: is gaming really the lifestyle choice that we make it out to be? I see a lot of grey area in this issue that isn't being addressed.
SPOnG Lupos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 16:49
SPOnG Lupos
Bemoaning women who use their sexuality is like hating on prostitutes for making more money than you. They are free to choose how they whore themselves out. You sell your words. Some girls sell their words and a bit of their self respect via photos. Some access to their Va-jay-jays's (which is an awesome word!).

I hear porn makes men disrespectful of women to. Oh-nos!!
Brilliam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:00
Brilliam
Bemoaning women who use their sexuality is like hating on prostitutes for making more money than you.

Not only is she not doing what you're saying, but even if she were it'd be nothing like that. For many reasons. Like, seriously, how are those two things in any way similar, unless you're implying that it's a jealousy issue (in which case, fuck you)?

They are free to choose how they whore themselves out.

Why'd you pick the word whore here? What is wrong with you?

You sell your words. Some girls sell their words and a bit of their self respect via photos.

Where does self-respect come into play? Do you know what that means? And what does writing have to do with "whoring?"

Some access to their Va-jay-jays's

What does this even mean?

(which is an awesome word!).

RONG

I hear porn makes men disrespectful of women to. Oh-nos!!

Irrelevant to the post. Like, completely. Why even say it?

In summation, you just broke rule 1, you anal bead.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:00
KMCC
.tiff, you need to write more, no one can loudly bluster over what you are about to say when you write.

We like to hear your consistently sane and intelligent perspectives on gaming!
EvoAnubis's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:01
EvoAnubis
Girl gamer. Guy gamer. Don't give a good goddamn. A gamer is a gamer to me.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:13
MaxVest
@Brilliam: Although Tiff can certainly speak for herself, I think the main point is the uniquely harmful effect of the sexual image. It's possibly that she's requesting gamers to swear oaths of chastity, but I doubt it.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:18
Dexter345
Huzzah, .tiff.

Way to represent your gender without being an obnoxious Girl Gamer.
KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:22
KamikazeTutor
I have to admit, these "girl gamers" are a good help for Prostate Cancer Week Awareness.
KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:24
KamikazeTutor
DANGIT!

*Awareness Week
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:25
SourGr8pes
Until I meet one in person, in the flesh, and prove she's not some kind of Japanese personocom; Girl Gamers are a myth created by the internets and ad wizards (who are armed with magic missiles)
Elrando's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:26
Elrando
The whole girl gamer thing just pissed me off. I don't care if you've got a vagina, can it just be Haloz tiem nao plz? Yes you'll probably beat me, that's due to the fact that I don't play more than an hour a day usually, not what your gender is.

Great article.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:35
Vanilla Gorilla
Now I'll say up front that I read the article, grasp what you mean and even agree with you for the most part. But it does have a spiteful flaming-but-trying-to-not tone to it =x

Maybe direct a little bit of the hate for the "Gamer Girls" towards the daddies who didn't give enough attention to them? It's a pretty frequent occurance, children who don't get the attention they need from their parents growing up get it else where.

Some girls take off g-strings for strangers, some mash controllers between their tits and post the pics on the internet. Either way, it's not completely the individual's fault for being attractive and desiring attention, so it doesn't seem fair to completely put them on blast. There's probably a story behind each girl that puts game related pseudonudes on the internet and it's probably not a happy one.
xper's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:46
xper
hands down, head down, on my knees praising one of the best articles ever written on destructoid....

standing up, looking proud, putting my hands together...

*clap*
*clap*
*clap*
*erection from attached pics*
*clap*
*clap*

.............
Elrando's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:47
Elrando
@Vanilla Gorilla
"There's probably a story behind each girl that puts game related pseudonudes on the internet and it's probably not a happy one."

While you do have a point, it isn't as all encompassing as I think you'd like to believe. If you're old enough to get your tits out on the internet without it being illegal, you're old enough to think for yourselves and make your own decisions. Yes people are shaped by their parents and their environments, but you can only blame daddy for so long before it's time to grow up.
pinksage's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:59
pinksage
Good Article. However, I feel as this topic has been over discussed and usually it doesn’t go anywhere. Before joining the online ranks of gaming community, I did not know it was a big deal to game and be a female. I played video games with my brother, cousins, and friends. It was a hobby and that was to be enjoyed by all, right?
When it comes down it the core of the issue is that there shouldn’t be a division between women that game, men that game and those that use the gaming as a way to create a career, or simple enjoy their 15 minutes of fame. Our beloved gaming industry is no different than any other industry in the Entertainment world. Some actresses act because they love to share this art form with the world and really love what they do. Then there are other “actresses” that do it for the sheer attention [ei: Paris Hilton]. Do we call these women “girl actresses”? No. Simply because we KNOW the difference between the ones that really care for what they do, and tabloid queens. So why are we so surprised or have a hard time dealing with the gaming “attention wh*res”?
From a women stand point, we hate to see other women using sex as a tool to drive anything (be it music, clothes, cars, or athletes foot’s creams) -- But we have become accustomed to it .So when we have this really awesome hobby we enjoy, we hate to see it ruined by some girl in a bikini with a controller on her crotch.
Although, these ‘girl gamers’ that are in fact, in search for their 15 minutes on the internetz and claim to be ‘real’ gamers – I think men and women alike can tell the difference between a ‘girl gamer’ model chick and a girl that plays video games.
teknohed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/27/2008 17:59
teknohed
I feel like what you're saying is that you wish there were more serious Girl Game Bloggers.

I don't think any serious "gamers" look at "girl gamers" with any respect. I know lots of girls who play video games...but they're not enticed to put that on their myspace.

so what it boils down to is this. Is this the only interaction that females who like games will have with the internets? Or will a group of girls who like games one day have an equal voice in the discussion and digetsion of games in the media...outside of being marketing tools.

I'm suprised there's not more of a "gay gamers" movement in the same way...like all hot guy game clans...and gay nerdcore calanders.

Maybe there is and I've just been RSS'ing the wrong websites.
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