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"If you don't have a Wii, would you buy one if the price dropped?"
Nah...For me personally, there is no "killer app" that makes me want a Wii. It'll take a proper Wii Zelda title (TP doesn't count) to get me to buy one.
Nah...For me personally, there is no "killer app" that makes me want a Wii. It'll take a proper Wii Zelda title (TP doesn't count) to get me to buy one.
ABSOLUTELY YES!!!
Then again, there's plenty of hardly used $200 dollar Wii's out there already. Those also usually come with an extra controller too, so I think I may still buy a used one when I finally finish saving.(#20 a week for two months now!)
Then again, there's plenty of hardly used $200 dollar Wii's out there already. Those also usually come with an extra controller too, so I think I may still buy a used one when I finally finish saving.(#20 a week for two months now!)
Don't get me wrong, the Wii is a great console but I think the price tag should be about $180 just because it lacks in graphics (Yes, I know. Graphics don't make the game) and sometimes gameplay. Some games on the other hand kick ass. SSBB for example.
The Wii's price is spot on at $250. It has enough quality titles to certainly warrant a purchase, and the Virtual Console is really coming into it's own.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: everyone already has a Wii, hence the low sales.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: everyone already has a Wii, hence the low sales.
The wii should be cheaper until they impliment some onboard RAM or HDD that's worth something. The very limited space is terrible. I've had to remove games from my Wii because it couldn't even hold 2 pages worth of downloads.
The Wii has a lot of great and quirky games, the problem is that most of them lack length and replay value...
I already have one, but I wouldn't buy one right now for the same price. I hardly use it anyway.
It's late in the product life-cycle and my bet is on Nintendo coming out with a product update within the next year (like DS-->DS Lite-->DSi). At the same time, the Wii craze is dying, so they're really going to have to up their game or risk losing the market again (like they did fourteen years ago).
Here's hoping Wii 2.0 has a hard-drive, some power under the trunk and, most importantly, third-party developer support. Then again, I already have a PS3 and an Xbox 360...
Then again, Wii could have a good couple of twilight years if they refocus on pushing out more really solid virtual console and WiiWare games.
It's late in the product life-cycle and my bet is on Nintendo coming out with a product update within the next year (like DS-->DS Lite-->DSi). At the same time, the Wii craze is dying, so they're really going to have to up their game or risk losing the market again (like they did fourteen years ago).
Here's hoping Wii 2.0 has a hard-drive, some power under the trunk and, most importantly, third-party developer support. Then again, I already have a PS3 and an Xbox 360...
Then again, Wii could have a good couple of twilight years if they refocus on pushing out more really solid virtual console and WiiWare games.
Nintendo has no reason to lower the Wii's sale price. It may be in a slump now, but you can be guaranteed sales will rise back up once New Super Mario Bros. and Wii Fit Plus are released (along with Wii Sports Resort still selling like crazy).
Nintendo just needs to wait it out. Lowering the sale price won't guarantee higher sales for long. They'll eventually reslump if the console's value isn't perceived as high (i.e. not enough quality games for certain customers). That would leave Nintendo with the same number of consoles sold with less money being made (because of the lowered price).
If they do decrease the price, I'd assume it would only be to 200$, because of the removal of Wii Sports (which is 50$). That would really mean that the console itself is not selling for less, the package would simply be gone. Alternatively, they could keep the current price and repackage it with Wii Sports Resort/Motion Plus.
Nintendo just needs to wait it out. Lowering the sale price won't guarantee higher sales for long. They'll eventually reslump if the console's value isn't perceived as high (i.e. not enough quality games for certain customers). That would leave Nintendo with the same number of consoles sold with less money being made (because of the lowered price).
If they do decrease the price, I'd assume it would only be to 200$, because of the removal of Wii Sports (which is 50$). That would really mean that the console itself is not selling for less, the package would simply be gone. Alternatively, they could keep the current price and repackage it with Wii Sports Resort/Motion Plus.
I should hope the sales would fall off. I made the mistake of buying one a few months ago and have turned it on only to be disappointed by: the Conduit, Star Wars TFU. I also tried Super Mario Galaxy, and while the game wasn't bad, it just wasn't for me. I am excited about the 2D Mario, but once I beat that, I will probably sell or trade it in. The cost is/was too high from the beginning, and unless it drops to $129, will continue to be too expensive. The games look ugly as hell on my HDTV, and yes, I have official Nintendo component cables and 480P set.
Sales may pick up slightly with their bigger titles, but I wouldn't be surprised if sales stayed in the relatively low levels now until a drop of $50 is made. Whoever wanted one already has one, and the majority of the games are garbage. The only reason I'd buy one is for the interesting VC titles, and $250 is too high for a unit that I'm only going to buy VC games for.
Sorry, I meant I'd be buying mostly WiiWare games (I often get the terminology mixed up). There's some pretty cool looking stuff there
That theory will definitely be proved wrong. Don't even think about doubting the ridiculous number of units Nintendo would push with a price drop.
@ VaeVictus
"I've got something in my pocket for youuuu..."
A price drop has to happen in order to maintain competitive edge, or they need to pack-in MotionPlus to remain @ 250, or pack-in with WiiFit to hit a 300 price point. If not, a dark 4th quarter may be imminent.
"I've got something in my pocket for youuuu..."
A price drop has to happen in order to maintain competitive edge, or they need to pack-in MotionPlus to remain @ 250, or pack-in with WiiFit to hit a 300 price point. If not, a dark 4th quarter may be imminent.
I own a Wii. I play it every 6 months or so. I'm only keeping it for No More Heroes 2. Though I'm still glad to have it for Suda 51's work. Price drop couldn't hurt.
There's no way this Agnates fellow isn't a troll.
I agree with several above comments, which I will amalgamate thusly: Wii's actual value is set at whatever price you think having access to WiiWare is worth, plus the meager fun to be had playing the random Wii game once in a blue moon (probably drunkenly).
I would probably personally set this price at $150 dollars, but I could see people going lower (depending on the nostalgia factor presented by WiiWare).
I agree with several above comments, which I will amalgamate thusly: Wii's actual value is set at whatever price you think having access to WiiWare is worth, plus the meager fun to be had playing the random Wii game once in a blue moon (probably drunkenly).
I would probably personally set this price at $150 dollars, but I could see people going lower (depending on the nostalgia factor presented by WiiWare).
Here's the thing, who's fault is this?
Exactly, it's Nintendo's fault for not puting quality controll on like they did back in the NES era and hence we're back to the atari times with them.
Well, whatever, mine is a Homebrew Wii, I can buy games, install them to my HD and make merry, so I don't fucking care.
Exactly, it's Nintendo's fault for not puting quality controll on like they did back in the NES era and hence we're back to the atari times with them.
Well, whatever, mine is a Homebrew Wii, I can buy games, install them to my HD and make merry, so I don't fucking care.
@Conan-san
You obviously never owned an NES, did you? The popularity of the Angry Video Game Nerd throws a wrench in your "quality control" argument.
You obviously never owned an NES, did you? The popularity of the Angry Video Game Nerd throws a wrench in your "quality control" argument.
The Wii is basically an upgraded Japaese NES.
Motion Control/Reading: Power Glove/ Gun for Duck Hunt
Online Capabilities: The Jap NES could be used to order groceries and gamble online.
Unnecessary Add-Ons: Wii had Every Wii- Mote Add-Ons. NES had R.O.B.
I thought that was funny.
Motion Control/Reading: Power Glove/ Gun for Duck Hunt
Online Capabilities: The Jap NES could be used to order groceries and gamble online.
Unnecessary Add-Ons: Wii had Every Wii- Mote Add-Ons. NES had R.O.B.
I thought that was funny.
$50 isn't going to cut it. Nintendo has to go bigger. Think $149.99. They have to really show themselves as an economic deal in these times. The only bad news is they have little real support from third-party publishers, who are more content to wait it out for Natal and the PS3 Wand where they can do the same things they'd do on Wii, but with prettier graphics.
And sadly, graphics still sell above gameplay, even in this era.
And sadly, graphics still sell above gameplay, even in this era.
Maybe now some other consoles could get some sales. I hope for the day where all consoles are equal in sales and everyone can stop caing about which console is the most/least popular. It really doesn't say much about the quality of the console as if it was good before when it was selling like hotcakes how does it suddendly become worse when the sales slow down?
@Conan-san
Honestly I never got that arguement. I'm not saying there's no bad Wii games because there's quite a lot but I don't see that much more than I do for other systems to the point where I think you would either have to be a fucking moron and actually search to find that many really bad wii games. The DS probably has more crap on it that the wii but it just gets away with it.
@Conan-san
Honestly I never got that arguement. I'm not saying there's no bad Wii games because there's quite a lot but I don't see that much more than I do for other systems to the point where I think you would either have to be a fucking moron and actually search to find that many really bad wii games. The DS probably has more crap on it that the wii but it just gets away with it.
"If you don't have a Wii, would you buy one if the price dropped?"
No... but that's regardless of the price, I just wouldn't buy one because the Wii isn't my thing. As far as "real" gamers go, very few of them are going to buy Wiis due to a price change. The gamers who are into the Wii already own one, and the ones who aren't won't just won't change their minds just because it's cheaper. I think Nintendo's best chance is to keep doing what they've been doing: promoting the Wii as the best choice for people who aren't traditional "gamers" but are looking for something fun.
No... but that's regardless of the price, I just wouldn't buy one because the Wii isn't my thing. As far as "real" gamers go, very few of them are going to buy Wiis due to a price change. The gamers who are into the Wii already own one, and the ones who aren't won't just won't change their minds just because it's cheaper. I think Nintendo's best chance is to keep doing what they've been doing: promoting the Wii as the best choice for people who aren't traditional "gamers" but are looking for something fun.
I can't believe people are still "blaming Nintendo" for some imaginary problems. Sales are low because that's what happens after everyone who wants a Wii has already bought one. Even if they never sold a single console or game after this very moment, they'd be fine, and they'd all go home and go to sleep in their solid gold beds.
Honestly, I don't even think the Wii needs a price cut, but if they're planning on doing it, $50 would be the most I'd go. It was the most affordable from the start and is still cheaper than both other companies' offerings (save for the 60gb 360, which is being overshadowed by the Elite now.)
Honestly, I don't even think the Wii needs a price cut, but if they're planning on doing it, $50 would be the most I'd go. It was the most affordable from the start and is still cheaper than both other companies' offerings (save for the 60gb 360, which is being overshadowed by the Elite now.)
Why do you think the Wiimote it's shaped like a coffin?
Nintendo forsee this, and they will have to act quickly or they will lose all those soccer moms.
Nintendo forsee this, and they will have to act quickly or they will lose all those soccer moms.
"If you don't have a Wii, would you buy one if the price dropped?"
No. Selling mine was like building up a huge wad of dust and selling it on eBay. Both had equal playtime.
None.
Plus, from what I can see, new games work remarkably better on emulators, too. 1080p and AA and all that jazz. Ironically enough though... there's still no games I'd want to play on that thing. None that I can't get for the GC anyway.
No. Selling mine was like building up a huge wad of dust and selling it on eBay. Both had equal playtime.
None.
Plus, from what I can see, new games work remarkably better on emulators, too. 1080p and AA and all that jazz. Ironically enough though... there's still no games I'd want to play on that thing. None that I can't get for the GC anyway.
I'll probably get one after a price drop, and when the black one comes out. People always say there's no games for system, but just look at the backlog of games for it now. Its looking just as good as the 360/PS3 backlog of games, and a lot of the games are really cheap now. Plus 2010 is looking to be a really good year for the Wii, starting off with No More Heroes 2/Sin & Punishment 2 that are suppose to be coming out in Jan of next year!
@NihonTiger90
"sadly, graphics still sell above gameplay, even in this era."
Wii Fit (21.83 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7480®ion=All
Wii Play (24.11 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2666®ion=All
Wii Sports Resort (4.1 mil in less than 3 months): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24656®ion=All
Metal Gear Solid 4 (4.19 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6970®ion=All
Gears of War 2 (5.17 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=16548®ion=All
End point: Gameplay almost always sells the game, not graphics. The two "Hardcore" ultra graphics games sold far less than the "Casual" shitty graphics games. I don't even forget to mention that, of the current game systems, the DS has the shittiest graphics and is stomping every other system out there (as do it's highest selling games).
"sadly, graphics still sell above gameplay, even in this era."
Wii Fit (21.83 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7480®ion=All
Wii Play (24.11 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2666®ion=All
Wii Sports Resort (4.1 mil in less than 3 months): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24656®ion=All
Metal Gear Solid 4 (4.19 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6970®ion=All
Gears of War 2 (5.17 mil): http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=16548®ion=All
End point: Gameplay almost always sells the game, not graphics. The two "Hardcore" ultra graphics games sold far less than the "Casual" shitty graphics games. I don't even forget to mention that, of the current game systems, the DS has the shittiest graphics and is stomping every other system out there (as do it's highest selling games).
Anyone who is a student of video game history knows that having a majority of crap games even if you have great ones will cause a gaming system to fall. Honestly if anyone didn't see this sort of thing happening eventually with the Wii was being ignorant. I personally find it ironic that Nintendo who brought the world out of the gaming crash of 1983 wouldn't learn from the mistakes of Atari.
I love fanboy comments for articles like this. You'll never find such a varied assortment of unsubstantiated, conflicting, ignorant, and foolish opinions all stated as obvious fact anywhere else.
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"Anyone who is a student of video game history knows that having a majority of crap games even if you have great ones will cause a gaming system to fall."
Oh really! So the PS2, PS1, SNES, and NES all failed did they? There was a ton of crap on all of those systems as well. Because they were the most popular systems of they're generations, not because they were bad systems. All popular systems are filled with shovelware, but people like you seem to act like shovelware wasn't invented until the Wii came along.
Oh really! So the PS2, PS1, SNES, and NES all failed did they? There was a ton of crap on all of those systems as well. Because they were the most popular systems of they're generations, not because they were bad systems. All popular systems are filled with shovelware, but people like you seem to act like shovelware wasn't invented until the Wii came along.
The problem is that because of the graphic limitations and the control scheme, third party games are either A) amazingly dumb-downed, or B) just don't come out on the system at all. "Man, this Arkham Asylum game is pretty cool, have you played it? Oh, thats right...you bought a Wii, didn't you?"
What with their Present and Future Channel, I'm simply shocked Nintendo couldn't see this coming. Now I don't know what to believe in.
Jesus, I'm sorry a lot of you need to see Wii fail because it supports some strange inferiority complex you have.
You're not saving gaming with your mythical insight. I promise.
You're not saving gaming with your mythical insight. I promise.
@ace of knaves: Are you sure they didn't see this coming? I haven't read anything about Nintendo being surprised that sales are decreasing.
And the state of the economy over the last year or so proves that anything that goes up must come down.
And the state of the economy over the last year or so proves that anything that goes up must come down.
I never play my Wii, but I refuse to sell it for that glimmer of hope that something good might come out on it someday.
There really are some great games on it... they're just so few and far between. With PS3 and 360, it's like "I want that game, ooh I can't wait for this game and this game to come out." With Wii, it's like "man... when's the next mario/zelda/metroid coming out? That has a chance of possibly being awesome."
There really are some great games on it... they're just so few and far between. With PS3 and 360, it's like "I want that game, ooh I can't wait for this game and this game to come out." With Wii, it's like "man... when's the next mario/zelda/metroid coming out? That has a chance of possibly being awesome."
Sure, it is partly due to price fatigue, but pure market saturation. You can't continuously sell TONS of Wii's to the public and not reach a point where pretty much everyone has one that's going to buy one.
150 bucks my ass! Its not PS2! hahah, 200 dollars is very fair.
Besides software is more important than hardware. As long as the hardware can play the game. This is where the other companies fail.
Nintendo didn't do so hot with the hardware, but the first party software is great!
Besides software is more important than hardware. As long as the hardware can play the game. This is where the other companies fail.
Nintendo didn't do so hot with the hardware, but the first party software is great!
Ha ha ha awesome!!! That is what they get for catering to the CASUAL market for the last 2 years. The Wii is no longer an interesting prize giveaway at work, or on the radio. Hey REGGIE the casual market only buys a few times a year, where as the rest of us that created the demand for 3 consoles buy if the game is good, and you Nintendo have stunk at making great games for this console. Aside from Kororinpa and Resident Evil 4 (and that was a remake)
Maybe next console you'll actually go truly next gen, not a game cube with waggle, oh and make games that GAMERS actually WANT!
I owned two Wii's and regretted buying them both, they just collected dust. They
Maybe next console you'll actually go truly next gen, not a game cube with waggle, oh and make games that GAMERS actually WANT!
I owned two Wii's and regretted buying them both, they just collected dust. They
I do think a price drop could help, and I really would like to get a Wii to play some exclusives (and VC!), and I've got the money to buy one right now, BUT......
I hate the color. Seriously Nintendo, surprise me at TGS with not only a price drop, but announce some new colors to get people's attention again! Or just bring the ultra-sexy black Wii to the rest of the world! Remember all the colors showcased when it was still called "Revolution". Red! Silver! LIME GREEN!!!!! White is soooooo 2006, and it's after labor day for crying out loud.
I hate the color. Seriously Nintendo, surprise me at TGS with not only a price drop, but announce some new colors to get people's attention again! Or just bring the ultra-sexy black Wii to the rest of the world! Remember all the colors showcased when it was still called "Revolution". Red! Silver! LIME GREEN!!!!! White is soooooo 2006, and it's after labor day for crying out loud.
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