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Oh Jim, the jig is up. We all know you scan those photos from your "wife's" under-bed stash of PlayGirls.
Maybe it's a replacement for the failed PSP Go. If I could buy and play full PSP games, and additonally could play many of the minis and apple app-type games... on a phone - I might be inclined to get one.
Then again I don't use a cell phone and can't see myself buying one at any point in the near future, so what do I know?
Then again I don't use a cell phone and can't see myself buying one at any point in the near future, so what do I know?
I'm pretty sure a Playstation phone's main target would be Japan, where PSP game sales are definitely not "minuscule."
I think it's funny that some seem to think that this is for sure a 'Playstation' phone. Isn't it just a Sony Ericcson Xperia that runs Android, with the added bonus of having a controller layout rather than a keypad? I don't think SCE have anything to do with this.
I wouldn't underestimate this. Don't forget that Nintendo admitted that, in the handheld market, Apple is now a more serious competitor than Sony thanks to the iPhone. Time was ripe for a phone with potential for games with more than touch-screen and motion-tilting controls. Give gamers the choice of a standard phone with only cheap $10 games, and a phone that doubles as a handheld gaming console, and I think a lot will choose the latter.
Bonus points if they try to appeal beyond their existing fanbase by calling it something other than a "PSPhone".
Bonus points if they try to appeal beyond their existing fanbase by calling it something other than a "PSPhone".
My biggest worry with a PSP Phone is, lets say it works just dandy, once your phone plan is up and there is a new pretty one out on the market about two years later, it better not cost 300 dollars per phone, and it better be convenient to switch all your downloaded games over.
They're really gonna have to work on making everything cheap. I would pay full price for full PSP games, but as the article says, those PSP minis are a waste of time and money. Make them cheaper, and the phone has to be competitively priced.
They're really gonna have to work on making everything cheap. I would pay full price for full PSP games, but as the article says, those PSP minis are a waste of time and money. Make them cheaper, and the phone has to be competitively priced.
Make the PSP2 have an option to use as a phone, as in an extra thing you can buy from Verizon. Why is this so difficult? Sure, it'll probably be bulky to the point of inconvenience (see old backwards-compatible PS3) but there will be some people who appreciate it.
@Gengario I think most people misinterpeted what Iwata said. He meant that Apple is the enemy of gaming as a whole.
"PSP fans likely already have a phone."
Well, iPhone 4 users probably had a phone. before your current phone, you also probably had a phone. today most people change phones ins a 1-2 year cycle. As a person who does not have infinite pockets, I welcome the idea.
But yeah, what really fucks up the psp model are the high prices imposed by sony. I honestly hope that in the next gen the proper consoles have an open challenger. games cost 2 bucks on the pc, and 15 on the psn/xbla, because they price fix. I don't have an iPhone/Android yet, but I'd like to see them get a lot of market share with their pricing model, so sony, microsoft and nintendo may get a hint.
Well, iPhone 4 users probably had a phone. before your current phone, you also probably had a phone. today most people change phones ins a 1-2 year cycle. As a person who does not have infinite pockets, I welcome the idea.
But yeah, what really fucks up the psp model are the high prices imposed by sony. I honestly hope that in the next gen the proper consoles have an open challenger. games cost 2 bucks on the pc, and 15 on the psn/xbla, because they price fix. I don't have an iPhone/Android yet, but I'd like to see them get a lot of market share with their pricing model, so sony, microsoft and nintendo may get a hint.
@amtalx No More must live in EU or JPN because those are the only regions that actually still desire the PSP.
I'm using the hell out of my PSP, just bought a bunch of peripherals for it, will be getting a 3DS next year, am looking forward to the PSP2, and I STILL am interested in a "Playstation Phone." I haven't upgraded to a smartphone yet, precisely because the games and features don't interest me, so I carry my handhelds wherever I go. But if you tell me I can get real PSP-sized games on a device that can make calls, and I'm on board. Good thing my next phone upgrade is in February.
The PSP is selling like crazy in Japan, a place where everyone and their dog has a cell phone. Why is this a bad idea, again?
I don't understand the problem. Intergrating a phone into the PSP seems like one of the next natural steps. I think that was the PSP Go's problem. They wanted to compete with the iPhone but they only went halfway.
There must be an affordable way to combine the devices by now. It's not like it would need to have all the same features as an iPhone, or a Blackberry. Hell just add a phone dialer to the current menu that allows me do dial using the dpad and buttons, let me talk through a headset, and I'd buy one right now.
There must be an affordable way to combine the devices by now. It's not like it would need to have all the same features as an iPhone, or a Blackberry. Hell just add a phone dialer to the current menu that allows me do dial using the dpad and buttons, let me talk through a headset, and I'd buy one right now.
I'm not sure I agree with either analysts, personally.
If the PSP Phone is a PSP2 with an Android platform smart phone built into it... it's like PSP Tier 2.5. It is a PSP2 with additional functionality. And not everyone has a smart phone, while they are penetrating the market more as time goes on, not everyone has one. And not everyone has one they want to keep for years to come.
With the tactile controls that the PSP Phone would have, it beats the iPhone hands down. Like seriously, have you tried playing games that try to emulate an analog stick and buttons on an iPhone? It's severely lacking.
I, for one, welcome our new smart phone overlords. (Well, they probably wouldn't kill the market, but I'd certainly love to have one)
If the PSP Phone is a PSP2 with an Android platform smart phone built into it... it's like PSP Tier 2.5. It is a PSP2 with additional functionality. And not everyone has a smart phone, while they are penetrating the market more as time goes on, not everyone has one. And not everyone has one they want to keep for years to come.
With the tactile controls that the PSP Phone would have, it beats the iPhone hands down. Like seriously, have you tried playing games that try to emulate an analog stick and buttons on an iPhone? It's severely lacking.
I, for one, welcome our new smart phone overlords. (Well, they probably wouldn't kill the market, but I'd certainly love to have one)
I honestly hope for a PlayStation Phone.
When I take breaks at work, I have to dick around on the internet with my phone. I'd like to be playing my PSP. But guess what? I can't. I have too much other shit in my pocket to be bringing my PSP along.
Turn 2 devices into 1, and I won't have to decide. I'll upgrade in a heartbeat.
When I take breaks at work, I have to dick around on the internet with my phone. I'd like to be playing my PSP. But guess what? I can't. I have too much other shit in my pocket to be bringing my PSP along.
Turn 2 devices into 1, and I won't have to decide. I'll upgrade in a heartbeat.
@Dv8thwonder:
Well JPN is a fantasy twilight zone. That's where beautiful Asian women fall from the sky and everyone is a hero on an epic journey to rediscover their past...right?
Well JPN is a fantasy twilight zone. That's where beautiful Asian women fall from the sky and everyone is a hero on an epic journey to rediscover their past...right?
Every year I get a new phone with my contract. Free.
I love my psp.
It is a bit big for my pocket though.
My phone is always in my pocket.
I like to play games on my phone, but they generally pale in insignificance compared to the games on my psp.
This thing is so aimed directly at my face, and if it becomes real, it will probably reach it's Target, via my wallet, in monthly payments that I'm going to be paying anyway.
So, uh, yeah.
I love my psp.
It is a bit big for my pocket though.
My phone is always in my pocket.
I like to play games on my phone, but they generally pale in insignificance compared to the games on my psp.
This thing is so aimed directly at my face, and if it becomes real, it will probably reach it's Target, via my wallet, in monthly payments that I'm going to be paying anyway.
So, uh, yeah.
Maybe in Japan there is a good market since portables are the big thing there.. In the US though.. I doubt it would do very well.
Plus, if the PS Phone is going touchscreen.. no thank you. When I game, I prefer a controller, not having my fingers covering up parts of the screen. I really don't see them doing much else besides touch screen or it will make the phone too big and to me that defeats the purpose when you have the PSP and PSPGo. I like my phones to be small, and sleek, not a big uncomfortable brick in my pocket, besides it'll "distract from my natural bulge."
Plus, if the PS Phone is going touchscreen.. no thank you. When I game, I prefer a controller, not having my fingers covering up parts of the screen. I really don't see them doing much else besides touch screen or it will make the phone too big and to me that defeats the purpose when you have the PSP and PSPGo. I like my phones to be small, and sleek, not a big uncomfortable brick in my pocket, besides it'll "distract from my natural bulge."
I don't think you guys here at Destructoid are really aware of just how far Android is come if you think an Android running PSP phone is a bad idea.
This actually has the potential to bury the iPhone if Sony doesn't try to lock it down too much. And if they do lock it down, XDA will make it into a stock Android phone with an amazing slide-out controller.
This actually has the potential to bury the iPhone if Sony doesn't try to lock it down too much. And if they do lock it down, XDA will make it into a stock Android phone with an amazing slide-out controller.
I totally agree that it's a terrible idea, but I've wanted a phone with gaming controls for AGES, for NOT emulating games on it, which it totally will be able to NOT do if it's running android. Just please don't let Sony realize how bad an idea it is until I can get one, please?
Nice to see you're using the beach in Tel-Aviv for your articles, Jim.
You should come and visit sometime.
You should come and visit sometime.
The PSP Phone will be a disaster because Sony will make it non-compatible with the PSP2. So, they will release two competing, non-compatible products onto the market at the same time. If Sony was smart they would both be the same hardware, just one with phone capabilities but come on...this is Sony we are talking about.
@KrazyKraut Well there's definitely no shortage of sun. Winter seems to be almost completely missing this year.
Anyway glad to hear you liked it. With so many great games I tend to forget those beaches exist.
May need to drop the controller and make some use of them :-)
Anyway glad to hear you liked it. With so many great games I tend to forget those beaches exist.
May need to drop the controller and make some use of them :-)
Here's my take: Will it play PSP games, will it play new PSP2 games, will it play PlayStation Phone apps (new) and will it play current Android apps?
It could be that there will be no such thing as "PlayStation apps" per se, but rather Sony will just build a market for the PlayStation Phone that uses current Android apps already out there while at the same time brining in new apps that work specifically for the PS Phone using the current Android SKDs. That would be simpler.
That would mean the following:
1) PS Phone plays PSP games
2) PS Phone plays PSP2 games
3) PS Phone plays PS Phone Android apps (The $2 buck market that competes with iTunes)
The idea that Phone nuts don't *want* a PSP. Well, isn't that within the framework of what we know the past PSPs to be? What about a new PSP2 that encompasses all the new technology will bring minus UMD and includes dual-sticks (digital) and touch screen!
Remember, all the PSP MP3/Movie tech will be there. And you wont be forced to use the duel-stick buttons to navigate; it will have touch screen just like the iPhone for that.
I do fear that if the PS Phone does many things good, but nothing great is a danger. But why are we treating PSP2 tech like it's "gold?" Heck, we used to think the iPod tech was "amazing" now it's just comes with the iPhone. The PS Phone should do the same thing.
Think about it. Release a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability and you end up with the very same market we had before. Two devices that clutter up your life.
Jim, tell me I'm wrong. I have an iPhone. I wont get a PS Phone unless it offers more than that I have. The PSP2 tech is that *more* I talk about.
They could offer the PSP2 alone, sure. But not at the expense of releasing a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability.
At least release different models that offer choice.
It could be that there will be no such thing as "PlayStation apps" per se, but rather Sony will just build a market for the PlayStation Phone that uses current Android apps already out there while at the same time brining in new apps that work specifically for the PS Phone using the current Android SKDs. That would be simpler.
That would mean the following:
1) PS Phone plays PSP games
2) PS Phone plays PSP2 games
3) PS Phone plays PS Phone Android apps (The $2 buck market that competes with iTunes)
The idea that Phone nuts don't *want* a PSP. Well, isn't that within the framework of what we know the past PSPs to be? What about a new PSP2 that encompasses all the new technology will bring minus UMD and includes dual-sticks (digital) and touch screen!
Remember, all the PSP MP3/Movie tech will be there. And you wont be forced to use the duel-stick buttons to navigate; it will have touch screen just like the iPhone for that.
I do fear that if the PS Phone does many things good, but nothing great is a danger. But why are we treating PSP2 tech like it's "gold?" Heck, we used to think the iPod tech was "amazing" now it's just comes with the iPhone. The PS Phone should do the same thing.
Think about it. Release a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability and you end up with the very same market we had before. Two devices that clutter up your life.
Jim, tell me I'm wrong. I have an iPhone. I wont get a PS Phone unless it offers more than that I have. The PSP2 tech is that *more* I talk about.
They could offer the PSP2 alone, sure. But not at the expense of releasing a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability.
At least release different models that offer choice.
Here's my take: Will it play PSP games, will it play new PSP2 games, will it play PlayStation Phone apps (new) and will it play current Android apps?
It could be that there will be no such thing as "PlayStation apps" per se, but rather Sony will just build a market for the PlayStation Phone that uses current Android apps already out there while at the same time brining in new apps that work specifically for the PS Phone using the current Android SKDs. That would be simpler.
That would mean the following:
1) PS Phone plays PSP games
2) PS Phone plays PSP2 games
3) PS Phone plays PS Phone Android apps (The $2 buck market that competes with iTunes)
The idea that Phone nuts don't *want* a PSP. Well, isn't that within the framework of what we know the past PSPs to be? What about a new PSP2 that encompasses all the new technology will bring minus UMD and includes dual-sticks (digital) and touch screen!
Remember, all the PSP MP3/Movie tech will be there. And you wont be forced to use the duel-stick buttons to navigate; it will have touch screen just like the iPhone for that.
I do fear that if the PS Phone does many things good, but nothing great is a danger. But why are we treating PSP2 tech like it's "gold?" Heck, we used to think the iPod tech was "amazing" now it's just comes with the iPhone. The PS Phone should do the same thing.
Think about it. Release a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability and you end up with the very same market we had before. Two devices that clutter up your life.
Jim, tell me I'm wrong. I have an iPhone. I wont get a PS Phone unless it offers more than that I have. The PSP2 tech is that *more* I talk about.
They could offer the PSP2 alone, sure. But not at the expense of releasing a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability.
At least release different models that offer choice.
It could be that there will be no such thing as "PlayStation apps" per se, but rather Sony will just build a market for the PlayStation Phone that uses current Android apps already out there while at the same time brining in new apps that work specifically for the PS Phone using the current Android SKDs. That would be simpler.
That would mean the following:
1) PS Phone plays PSP games
2) PS Phone plays PSP2 games
3) PS Phone plays PS Phone Android apps (The $2 buck market that competes with iTunes)
The idea that Phone nuts don't *want* a PSP. Well, isn't that within the framework of what we know the past PSPs to be? What about a new PSP2 that encompasses all the new technology will bring minus UMD and includes dual-sticks (digital) and touch screen!
Remember, all the PSP MP3/Movie tech will be there. And you wont be forced to use the duel-stick buttons to navigate; it will have touch screen just like the iPhone for that.
I do fear that if the PS Phone does many things good, but nothing great is a danger. But why are we treating PSP2 tech like it's "gold?" Heck, we used to think the iPod tech was "amazing" now it's just comes with the iPhone. The PS Phone should do the same thing.
Think about it. Release a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability and you end up with the very same market we had before. Two devices that clutter up your life.
Jim, tell me I'm wrong. I have an iPhone. I wont get a PS Phone unless it offers more than that I have. The PSP2 tech is that *more* I talk about.
They could offer the PSP2 alone, sure. But not at the expense of releasing a PS Phone without PSP2 game playing capability.
At least release different models that offer choice.
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