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Agreed. Time for a confession now. When I first saw the header and read the title for the article here on destructoid talking about this game for the first time I got pissed. Yep. Something inside me said, "What?! No more!" Then I'm happy to say I read the preview my anger turned into anticipation. It really is too bad BioShock 2 was already made. Good game and all but this really deserves the title.
I'm not one of those who complains about Infinite's name but I also never put much though into why Bioshock was named as such. I learned something here and it somewhat blew my mind, thanks Jim!
Wow, are people really all up in arms about this? Ugh... this is why people think games rot the brain.
Agree with acetated. The "Infinite" subtitle is so cheesy.
Then again I dunno why they couldn't have just called it BioShock 3.
Then again I dunno why they couldn't have just called it BioShock 3.
Bio = Biology? Who would have thunk it, huh? Wait, I mean "think it"...no, "thought it". GOD, I'M SO CONFUSED NOW!
Why people put so much attention to things they don't own is beyond me.
They should have called it Pedrophelic Drillinghands V: Skyward Screws or something.
They should have called it Pedrophelic Drillinghands V: Skyward Screws or something.
I think SteamShock would have been a cool name. Bioshock Infinite is by far one of the worst titles I've ever heard. That aside, the game's premise sounds cool.
To expannd:Bio comes from the Greek Word ''Βίος'' which, as Jim said, means indication life or organisms.
The moar you know.
The moar you know.
The people who were saying that clearly meant that it (BioShock Infinite) should bear another 'Shock'-themed name, thus having the same relationship BioShock had with System Shock, not because they didn't understand what 'Bio' meant. I'm sorry, I usually like Jim Sterling articles, but this is just trying to having a go at people who don't deserve it for the wrong reasons.
Can't we all just agree that Bioshock 2 was a travesty of a game with generic shooter elements, a stale environment, and no purpose for being created other than profit? It saddens me to know people thought it was a good game. It wasn't.
Personally I love the fact that the series is going to a new location to explore other ideologies while maintaining it's roots in genetic modification which is where the title BioShock comes from to begin with. You know... Bio... As in biology.
Personally I love the fact that the series is going to a new location to explore other ideologies while maintaining it's roots in genetic modification which is where the title BioShock comes from to begin with. You know... Bio... As in biology.
People who want a different name are missing the point. Bioshock = name recognition, which is a major goal for anyone advertising. It might make a little more sense from a story standpoint but it's just a name.
My problem isn't that I think "bio" is inappropriate- it's that I think making this game a "sequel" is inappropriate. The video game industry right now is a joke. Seriously- IGN gave Mass Effect 2 a slightly lower score because it was "overly-referential" to the first game. Like, a sequel having anything to do with the first game seems to be a taboo in the video game industry.
Why not just make it another shock game, or just call it "infinite"?
Obviously, the answer is for the sales, and that's just retarded.
The other problem with all this sequel business is there are never any closed ends in video games anymore- and when there are, we find out in the sequel that those endings actually count for nothing just because some other development team felt like making a sequel.
"lol remember all the important stuff that happened at the end of the first game? WELL THAT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE BECAUSE HOLY SHIT THERE'S ANOTHER SPACE MONSTER THAT WAS CONTROLLING THE OTHER ONE THE WHOLE TIME"
This game shouldn't be called Bioshock because it's not a sequel. All of Tarantino's films, a lot of Isaac Asimov's books, and all of Valve's games take place in the same universe- but Inglourious Basterds wasn't called "Pulp Fiction 5" and there was no I, Robot 7.
/end rant
Why not just make it another shock game, or just call it "infinite"?
Obviously, the answer is for the sales, and that's just retarded.
The other problem with all this sequel business is there are never any closed ends in video games anymore- and when there are, we find out in the sequel that those endings actually count for nothing just because some other development team felt like making a sequel.
"lol remember all the important stuff that happened at the end of the first game? WELL THAT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE BECAUSE HOLY SHIT THERE'S ANOTHER SPACE MONSTER THAT WAS CONTROLLING THE OTHER ONE THE WHOLE TIME"
This game shouldn't be called Bioshock because it's not a sequel. All of Tarantino's films, a lot of Isaac Asimov's books, and all of Valve's games take place in the same universe- but Inglourious Basterds wasn't called "Pulp Fiction 5" and there was no I, Robot 7.
/end rant
As a casual Onlooker that's not up to date with the latest jimquisition. This article makes you look like a total D-bag
Jim you miss the point entirely again. We don't care about "Bio" , it's the "Shock" part that is driving us nuts. If they would only call it Bio-Eye-Opener or BioWhammy, I think you would find all this fuss would die down.
Wrong again. "Bio" should be removed from the name not because it has no meaning here or some shit like that. It should be because it's a "-shock" series, not BioShock series.
System Shock 1-2
BioShock 1-2
Infinite Shock
That how it was supposed to work. But by naming "Infinite Shock" "BioShock Infinite" they threw SS1-2 out the window of the series - and that's just wrong.
...Not that I care that much about the title. At least by naming new game Bioshock they almost elliminated the possibility of creating another Rapture cash-in like Bio2.
System Shock 1-2
BioShock 1-2
Infinite Shock
That how it was supposed to work. But by naming "Infinite Shock" "BioShock Infinite" they threw SS1-2 out the window of the series - and that's just wrong.
...Not that I care that much about the title. At least by naming new game Bioshock they almost elliminated the possibility of creating another Rapture cash-in like Bio2.
Well I don't know... but since you're English I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. Can your next English lesson be about geography? I would really like an English perspective of that.
In all honesty, I see where the complainers are coming from. It's not that "Bio" has to mean sea or water or go along with any of the characters. The trend in the "Shock" series is that each of the two "parts" have different settings. System Shock 1 and 2, from what I could tell, had very similar experiences and settings. BioShock 1 and 2 also had the same settings, although different from System Shock.
tldr: If System Shock has a different setting than BioShock, then why should Infinite be under the BioShock name?
tldr: If System Shock has a different setting than BioShock, then why should Infinite be under the BioShock name?
Rapture was central to the Bioshock experence. These people, though inartfully, are expressing scepticism that Columbia can take its place. At leat that is what it seems.
I think that it had to be called bioshock since the core game play mechanics seem to be the same. Calling it something else would imply that it is a new franchise.
People who are complaining about the "It's not a Bioshock game!" shit.
Shut the fuck up. I'm pretty sure you don't get to classify what belongs in the Bioshock universe or what has the name associated with it. It's not there for profit, it's there because Irrational believes this qualifies as being in the Bioshock universe - it's using variations of plasmids, etc.
Shut the fuck up. I'm pretty sure you don't get to classify what belongs in the Bioshock universe or what has the name associated with it. It's not there for profit, it's there because Irrational believes this qualifies as being in the Bioshock universe - it's using variations of plasmids, etc.
Lets make this simple.
SYSTEMshock- System as in computer system dealing with cyberpunk. Generally this refres to a setting useing robotics and cyborgs. Bioshock is a spirtual successor to the system shock games because it continues the gameplay design philosophy of those previous games.
BIOshock- Bio as in biology or dealing with genetics. No it has nothing to do with the steampunk motif of the first game. And to be honest the Art Deco was more prevalent then the steampunk. So long as this game contains men playing with their own self contained punnet squares then bio fits as a prefix.
Jim, thanks for the explanation. Some people are just Thick. Hope this clears abit more up for everyone.
SYSTEMshock- System as in computer system dealing with cyberpunk. Generally this refres to a setting useing robotics and cyborgs. Bioshock is a spirtual successor to the system shock games because it continues the gameplay design philosophy of those previous games.
BIOshock- Bio as in biology or dealing with genetics. No it has nothing to do with the steampunk motif of the first game. And to be honest the Art Deco was more prevalent then the steampunk. So long as this game contains men playing with their own self contained punnet squares then bio fits as a prefix.
Jim, thanks for the explanation. Some people are just Thick. Hope this clears abit more up for everyone.
What alot of you have to realize is Bioshock has become a household name as far as game franchises go. Not many people even know about System Shock let alone that it's apart of the Bioshock series. The Bioshock name will mean more money.Why do you think so many sequels are released every year.
People really complained about it being called bioshock, really? It looks like it's done in the same style as the first 2 but in the clouds and not underwater and people got their panties in a bunch over that? Seriously guys, they weren't going to think of a new name for it when bioshock has so much name recognition to begin with, and if the very same game elements are there from the first games well guess what it's going to be called the same thing.
BioShock Infinite shouldn't be called "BioShock" for the same reasons that the first BioShock wasn't called System Shock 3. It's true that it has many of the same themes and gameplay traits, but it isn't the same world or characters. The creators themselves have said that they consider this a new IP. I'm not saying that it matters, but it would still be neat if they kept the same naming scheme and called it *Something Else* Shock instead. My vote? FREEDOM SHOCK!
@Nicodemus
So... you're saying those big brown guys in the video looked absolutely nothing like big daddys?
So... you're saying those big brown guys in the video looked absolutely nothing like big daddys?
@mattrodroid We will just have to disagree about that one. I as not too impressed with the short glimpse of Columbia in the trailer.
I wanna say that Jim's argument, using Final Fantasy, makes sense, except that BioShock 2 WAS a direct sequel. I think that kind of ruins that name scheme. Now, since the original, basically, was SystemShock, and the next iteration had a different name, it would have made sense to start a new Shock. BUT, the biggest point here is that it doesn't really fucking matter!
Look at your article, now back to me. Now back at your article now back to me. Sadly you aren't me, but if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate articles you could seem intelligent. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, reading the comment your article should look like. What did you post? Now back at me. Anything is possible when you think before you post.
On an actually related note- I can't believe this is really such a big deal.
On an actually related note- I can't believe this is really such a big deal.
This was an argument? Either some people are idiots, or they're just never satisfied with anything.
NO, IT MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT TITLE!
NO, IT MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT TITLE!
Oh, one other thing, the prefix "bio-" comes from the Greek word meaning "life", so this isn't really a lesson in the "English" language per se since the English word meaning "life" is, well, "life".
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