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I think they are doing this for the people who were able to download the maps for free. It makes sense...besides the required part.
another way to screw your customers is to put the PC port of Halo 2 on Vista, which the enthusiast community despises as a whole.
Digg the story I put up on this ! http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/Halo_2_giving_us_a_Teabagging
Seriously, I am glad that a few other sites have already caught onto the story, seems like such a rip off for such an old game. If people want new maps, that is cool, but taking away my ability to play lots of matchmaking games is screwed up.
Seriously, I am glad that a few other sites have already caught onto the story, seems like such a rip off for such an old game. If people want new maps, that is cool, but taking away my ability to play lots of matchmaking games is screwed up.
Man... I read HALO 2 and I thought it was about the PC release.
and I'd disagree completely Mikeohara... Halo was meant for the PC and it was stolen for their ghey little xbox toy. I want my fucking Halo 2 on PC now!
and I'd disagree completely Mikeohara... Halo was meant for the PC and it was stolen for their ghey little xbox toy. I want my fucking Halo 2 on PC now!
They're free eventually. The only people who even play Halo 2 anymore are people who don't have a problem paying $4 for maps (myself included). I also feel like this isn't nearly as egregious as the Guitar Hero DLC debacle, but that might just be because I need to justify paying $4 for two maps.
Holy hell, its only $4.
Not only that, but Bungie didn't make the maps. Certain Affinity made them. They're a start-up dev led by an old Bungie employee.
$4 is nothing, I feel no shame in supporting a new dev after they've toiled for months to bring two new maps to a game that has been out for three years. What other console game receives new content three years after release? What original Xbox game receives new content at all?
Not only that, but Bungie didn't make the maps. Certain Affinity made them. They're a start-up dev led by an old Bungie employee.
$4 is nothing, I feel no shame in supporting a new dev after they've toiled for months to bring two new maps to a game that has been out for three years. What other console game receives new content three years after release? What original Xbox game receives new content at all?
And on another note, Bungie made it perfectly clear when they first announced the maps that they would be required for certain matchmaking playlists. So why now that the update has finally taken place are people so up in arms?
They said they would be required for certain matchmaking playlists, not ALL playlists within a matchmaking game (ie not every single Team Skirmish game would use only the new maps)
Sheesh, learn to read.
"You will not, I repeat, you will NOT be billed a second time if you already purchased the maps."
"You will not, I repeat, you will NOT be billed a second time if you already purchased the maps."
As far as looking for pointless things to bitch about, this is pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Halo 3 Beta in six days, be happy.
Halo 3 Beta in six days, be happy.
How is this news now? This has been widely known for weeks. Sorry to be "that guy," but it's true. And most players have been waiting impatiently for this oft-delayed update, anyway.
Frankly, I think the smart people are just happy that Bungie is still catering to the fans. How many three-year-old games are still getting new content and a regularly updated online experience? And $4 isn't a big deal. I mean, come on, people. Give me a break. I'm a broke-ass loser and I have no problem dropping four fucking dollars on the stupid maps.
Having said that, though, I'm really bored by the new maps, which sucks because I loved the Halo 1 maps they're based on. Two matchmaking games on Tombstone last night and I was already hating it. Oh well. Most of us should start moving onto newer games anyway.
Frankly, I think the smart people are just happy that Bungie is still catering to the fans. How many three-year-old games are still getting new content and a regularly updated online experience? And $4 isn't a big deal. I mean, come on, people. Give me a break. I'm a broke-ass loser and I have no problem dropping four fucking dollars on the stupid maps.
Having said that, though, I'm really bored by the new maps, which sucks because I loved the Halo 1 maps they're based on. Two matchmaking games on Tombstone last night and I was already hating it. Oh well. Most of us should start moving onto newer games anyway.
This was /widely/ known months ago.
Yes, both the fact that
1) The download cost is PER BOX (it's the way Xbox 1 transactions have always worked, so this was actually known about three years ago), and
2) You'll need to buy them for some of the matchmaking lists.
That there are reasons to reward people who are willing to pay a small fee to have external developers breathe new life into a 2.5-year-old game is /beyond/ obvious.
This is an awfully misleading post and a particularly lame attempt to drum up controversy. I would like respect your opinion, Gameboi, but not when you've tried to back it up with this deliberately deceptive nonsense.
Bungie went out of their way to explain this stuff. and they're friggin' free in few months anyway.
You hardly ever see this kind of stuff on Destructoid, /especially/ as compared to Kotaku or Joystiq, so voila- my (hopefully) constructive criticism.
Yes, both the fact that
1) The download cost is PER BOX (it's the way Xbox 1 transactions have always worked, so this was actually known about three years ago), and
2) You'll need to buy them for some of the matchmaking lists.
That there are reasons to reward people who are willing to pay a small fee to have external developers breathe new life into a 2.5-year-old game is /beyond/ obvious.
This is an awfully misleading post and a particularly lame attempt to drum up controversy. I would like respect your opinion, Gameboi, but not when you've tried to back it up with this deliberately deceptive nonsense.
Bungie went out of their way to explain this stuff. and they're friggin' free in few months anyway.
You hardly ever see this kind of stuff on Destructoid, /especially/ as compared to Kotaku or Joystiq, so voila- my (hopefully) constructive criticism.
*phew*
at least i'm not the only one that doesn't find this 'outrageous'. i still think its pretty sweet. the maps have been a blast in the private games i played them in, and i'm lookin forward to some rumble training tonite on the new maps.
*puts away crazy pills*
at least i'm not the only one that doesn't find this 'outrageous'. i still think its pretty sweet. the maps have been a blast in the private games i played them in, and i'm lookin forward to some rumble training tonite on the new maps.
*puts away crazy pills*
nah I would qualify you as the tough crowd, gameboi. Bungie gets enough shit for halo 2 screwing up the balance, we don't need to chastize them over a $4 map pack.
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woops. wrong url it's www.nolimitzentertainment.wordpress.com. My blog is not going to allow bitching from it's contributors about stupid BS like this. There needs to be an edit button on these comments. Anyone want to be a journalist who won't post stupid bs like this?
Yes, it is only $4. for now. And yes the maps will be free in 3 months. But those of you that don't think this is a problem, let me tell you why it is.
This is only $4 now. You HAVE to buy the maps if you want to continue to play the game that you already paid for. They are taking away content that everybody deserves to play. If this encourages anymore people to drop the $4 now for the maps, then Bungie will continue to do this in the future. Halo 3 is going to come out, and then 1 year later they are going to want us to pay them 500 points to get one or two new maps. And then they will say that you have to buy them in order to continue playing ranked games, that would be fawking terrible.
Even if it is for a short three month period, they are still taking away content that the gamer deserves. I can't predict that this will happen, but there is a possibility.
This is only $4 now. You HAVE to buy the maps if you want to continue to play the game that you already paid for. They are taking away content that everybody deserves to play. If this encourages anymore people to drop the $4 now for the maps, then Bungie will continue to do this in the future. Halo 3 is going to come out, and then 1 year later they are going to want us to pay them 500 points to get one or two new maps. And then they will say that you have to buy them in order to continue playing ranked games, that would be fawking terrible.
Even if it is for a short three month period, they are still taking away content that the gamer deserves. I can't predict that this will happen, but there is a possibility.
$4 for the maps is not some giant conspiracy to corner gamers into paying money to continue playing the games.
Perhaps, and I'm just speculating here, the $4 is going to pay the men and women of Certain Affinity who worked their asses off to bring these maps to the masses.
Halo 2 fans have wanted a remake of Hang 'Em High since Halo 2 was released. Ask any one of them, I'm sure they were glad to pay $4 for it.
Perhaps, and I'm just speculating here, the $4 is going to pay the men and women of Certain Affinity who worked their asses off to bring these maps to the masses.
Halo 2 fans have wanted a remake of Hang 'Em High since Halo 2 was released. Ask any one of them, I'm sure they were glad to pay $4 for it.
Look, that is not what I am talking about. I am sure that all the people that wanted these maps bought them. But there are 5 million people that play Halo 2. I can GUARANTEE you that not all 5 million will buy the maps. A large portion of people will just wait until they are free. Why? Because if they can not pay for something and get it for free later, then why pay right?
Looking at the same group of people, there is an extremely high chance that plenty of them enjoy to play Halo 2 ranked matches. But because they don't buy the maps, they are forced to play a smaller selection of game modes. THIS is the problem.
I have no doubt that the devs did a good job and worked hard at releasing these new maps and yes, they do deserve to be paid. But I also assume that they have already been paid and that all of that was a predetermined value. There is about a 0% chance that the employees would get commission on how many people download the maps. They might get some sort of bonus but they won't get paid based on sales.
The problem here is that a portion of the game is being taken away from the player if they don't pay. I don't care if it was $.50, they are removing content from the game that the customer already paid for, that is wrong.
Looking at the same group of people, there is an extremely high chance that plenty of them enjoy to play Halo 2 ranked matches. But because they don't buy the maps, they are forced to play a smaller selection of game modes. THIS is the problem.
I have no doubt that the devs did a good job and worked hard at releasing these new maps and yes, they do deserve to be paid. But I also assume that they have already been paid and that all of that was a predetermined value. There is about a 0% chance that the employees would get commission on how many people download the maps. They might get some sort of bonus but they won't get paid based on sales.
The problem here is that a portion of the game is being taken away from the player if they don't pay. I don't care if it was $.50, they are removing content from the game that the customer already paid for, that is wrong.
the Halo faithful still playing this game 3 years later who haven't moved on have no trouble shelling out 4 bucks to add some variety to a game that hasn't had an update in 2 years.
The halo 3 beta starts NEXT WEEK. it will run for 3 weeks. Guess what happens 3 weeks after its over? the Halo 2 maps go FREE, just like the old ones.
if you're too cheap to spend $4 on the maps, I'd hope you'd made some friends to play some custom games by now.
The halo 3 beta starts NEXT WEEK. it will run for 3 weeks. Guess what happens 3 weeks after its over? the Halo 2 maps go FREE, just like the old ones.
if you're too cheap to spend $4 on the maps, I'd hope you'd made some friends to play some custom games by now.
Damn i really wanted to put them on my xbox 1 too, i guess im glad i never got around to it. i was still have been wondering what the loop hole was to get the free maps, now that its after the fact i figured somebody could let me in on the secret
@Shipley and others, you still don't get it. What is so hard to understand. This doesn't concern the hardcore Halo fan, it concerns the majority of Halo players. Bungie just announced that 5 MILLION people play Halo 2 online. there are only about 10 million 360s sold. MOST of the people that still play Halo 2 DON'T have a 360 and they still want to play the 360.
So this means that the majority of the Halo 2 players are getting screwed. Unless they buy the $4 maps, they can't play several of the ranked game modes. This is totally not fair and. You people are looking at it from the entirely wrong angle, and that is why they are getting away with this. It is unfair and wrong and people should complain about it.
So this means that the majority of the Halo 2 players are getting screwed. Unless they buy the $4 maps, they can't play several of the ranked game modes. This is totally not fair and. You people are looking at it from the entirely wrong angle, and that is why they are getting away with this. It is unfair and wrong and people should complain about it.
Man, most of you just don't get it...
These developers (well, basically Microsoft) are muscling a lot of you into buying the new maps by hijacking items you already bought if you bought an XboX 1. That's akin to having to pay for a disc you already have in your possession!
For the slow (I won't address fanboys as they consider Microsoft's poop as candy and wishes they can pay double) let me put it this way: Let's say that I transfered my info from my XboX 1 and love the maps I do have, but I don't want to get the new stuff regardless of it being "new" or "k00l" or whatever. But to play things I already own, I have to pay again. Now if they CAN tell the difference between me an someone that went through the "payment loop", then all they have to do is charge them, since they themselves obviously think they can: if they CAN'T then how do they know if ANY person use a so-called payment loophole?
This is just another sham perped on the masses by Micro$oft.
These developers (well, basically Microsoft) are muscling a lot of you into buying the new maps by hijacking items you already bought if you bought an XboX 1. That's akin to having to pay for a disc you already have in your possession!
For the slow (I won't address fanboys as they consider Microsoft's poop as candy and wishes they can pay double) let me put it this way: Let's say that I transfered my info from my XboX 1 and love the maps I do have, but I don't want to get the new stuff regardless of it being "new" or "k00l" or whatever. But to play things I already own, I have to pay again. Now if they CAN tell the difference between me an someone that went through the "payment loop", then all they have to do is charge them, since they themselves obviously think they can: if they CAN'T then how do they know if ANY person use a so-called payment loophole?
This is just another sham perped on the masses by Micro$oft.
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