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As part of a concentrated effort to keep second-hand sales low, EA plans to continue dropping unique content delivery services -- like the ones present in Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 -- into its games through fiscal 2011.

Speaking during the recent financial conference call, EA CFO Eric Brown said as much, adding that these services "benefit" original purchasers: "In fiscal 11, we will continue to introduce new service and product features that benefit the unique registered purchasers on PC and console games. Our most recent example is the Cerberus content network introduced with Mass Effect 2."

Later in the call, EA COO John Schappert said that all of EA's fiscal 2011 titles will "have an online component, both downloadable content and online play." We'll take this to mean you'll probably want to steer clear of the "Used" aisle in order to access the full EA.com sign-in experience.








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Konrad9's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:32
Konrad9
And within 3 years all will be discontinued, meaning those pre-order bonuses and the $5/pack DLC downloads will be completely unusable.

Fuck you, EA.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:43
gamadaya
@Konrad9
Oh noes, your small investment will be worthless after only 3 years! How will you live?
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:45
DrRockso
I think this is a brilliant way to keep new game sales high without making something like product register required. And in the end, the consumer comes out ahead, too.

Bravo!
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:46
Xzyliac
I quite like this idea. I loved the freebies in ME2 and DA:O.

The anti-DLC whiners weren't terribly entertaining but fuck 'em. If it's free I'm game.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:46
RenegadePanda
I don't believe any game requires you to be connected to EA servers to use your DLC, just to download it. So once you download it, EA could vanish and your content would still be good, so long as you don't delete it.

But after the massive headache that was EA and Cerberus connectivity, I'm a little weary of this whole content portal shenanegan. Why not just use XBL/PSN codes? Why not just do it the way every game has since launch?

Is there some kind of drastic benefit that makes it worth the added headache on my end? Because if not, fuck EA.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:46
eternalplayer2345
Remember when Microsoft claimed that every xbox game was online enabled and it turns out that just meant every game could at least get firmware?
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:53
SBC Slam
Konrad, 3 years is a very long time. I think gamadaya hit the nail on the head, so I'll not add much else. Just though gama's point bore repeating.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 18:53
Xzyliac
@RenegadePanda
Theoretically, if you can connect to EA servers, it eliminates the hassle of codes. That way it's (theoretically) easier to gets bunches of DLC like ME2 did in the first week.

Of course that's assuming you don't have connectivity issues. I haven't but if you have I can see your pain.

I wonder if this will affect Rock Band. Hmm.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:01
RenegadePanda
@Xzyliac

Well they could theoretically release said content for free over XBL/PSN as free DLC. But I suppose then there would be no incentive for you to pay for a new copy of the game. As it stands, the Cerberus network seems 90 percent focused on getting you to buy a new copy of the game, rather than used.

While I get that, understand it and all, it seems kind of BS that if you pick up the game used, or get it off a friend or something, you're forced to spend 1200 points solely to get the DLC portal. In theory, if I bought ME2 used and had any kind of DLC codes, I'd have to pay the 15 bucks in order to redeem any of it.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:04
eduh
im all for anti-piracy measures, even tho i do some pirating ><
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:11
SBC Slam
@RenegadePanda:

By the same token, if you buy a used copy of a collector's edition that had the one-time-use codes used up, you'd probably think "This is the price of buying used."

Same here. And it isn't preventing you from buying used games, it's making up the difference from the used sales.

The amount of money lost to developers because of used sales is crushing. It's a smart business move. It helps recover from the used phenomenon, while also providing the end-user with an extremely beneficial arrangement. Both parties win. Besides, I'm willing to wager that most people who come to DTOID are early adopters, anyway, so it's essentially bitching just to bitch.

I mean, if you seriously wanted to save money on games, you wouldn't buy used, you'd buy from Toys R' Us, Best Buy, or Wal*Mart. They don't even sell used product (to qualify that, Best Buy no longer sells used in my area), and nine times out of ten, they sell new games for much cheaper than GameStop's used items, be it through promotions or just straight up pricing. So you can't even claim it's hitting you in your pocket, really.
urahara's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:14
urahara
EA is annoying for uni students like myself. The EADM system doesnt work at all. Cerberus however is a good idea for PC users at least, (unlike the DA:O system that was also annoying). You download the content from bioware and then patch the game yourself. Simple, although in theory it could be abused.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:41
Bob Muir
If you downloaded it on Xbox Live, it will remain in your download history. To my knowledge, the only thing actually removed from my download history (and I've downloaded a lot) has been various promotional gamerpics/themes and Yaris. So basically, only ads. Everything else is still available for redownload via Xbox Live's servers, even if EA's servers goes down. So as long as you buy (or download for free if offered) all the Mass Effect 2 DLC you want, EA taking down a server for the game doesn't matter. Now, if Xbox Live were to take down their DLC servers...like they did for the original Xbox just last week...that's the thing that scares me the most.
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 19:44
dip
3 Mass Effect headers in a row. :P
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 20:50
The Silent Protagonist
I guess this is EA's way of saying "Thank You" to all the retailers who aren't big chains or superstore outlets.

How dare you dirty, dirty mom'n'pop games stores try to profit off used games. You should be happy with the pittance we give you per copy of our games sold while trying to keep your stores open.

I know they're thinking in the back of their heads that this is going to discourage piracy, but c'mon, pirates are way more resilient than that.

All this does is make me see EA as a company that releases unfinished products, pardon me if that doesn't entice me to do business with them.
Nephlabobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:03
Nephlabobo
Congratulations EA, you have managed to convince me not to buy *any* of your titles in one fell swoop.
Webnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:21
Webnet
I'm pretty happy about this turn of events. The main problem I had with the first Mass Effect was the lack of DLC and now I am getting some serious support through post release content. If you enjoy a game, especially an rpg, the last thing you want is for it to end. Bioware is doing something about that and I am glad.

Concerning the costs, they have already announced that everything on the Cerebus Network will be totally free, which is beyond awesome. They are already dropping some free armor and weapons tomorrow. I hope they keep this up and other publishers follow suite by encouraging their developers to implement similar systems and support gamers after a game hits the shelves.
Necron117's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 23:33
Necron117
I can't believe I'm saying this, so hold on to your ass'.

EA is going to save gaming. Some my disagree, by I will always vote EA over ActiVison.
Lines Full of Lies's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 00:00
Lines Full of Lies
God i hope ME3 doesnt have multiplay...please bioware dont let it be.
Psy-Phi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 00:37
Psy-Phi
I hope ME3 does have multiplay.

Why would you not want it? It could play exactly like ME2, except you'd have friends playing the other two characters in your party. Nothing has to change at all. See RE5 for single to multi-play being identical (in the story mode obviously).

It would be fucking awesome.
Badical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 12:46
Badical
Fuck you Gamestop!!! Stick it to 'em Schappert!
Stahlbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 16:22
Stahlbrand
This is a rare occassion where I find myself in agreement with a giant greedy company.

The massive explosion of used sales is a really shitty deal for the companies who made the initial investments, and who employ the creative people who actually made the games in the first place.

The use of "included free downloads" (availible at a price otherwise) seems to me a pretty cunning way to discourage the pawnshop BS from the pre-owned retailers and incentivize retail purchases.

I mean, the PSPGo flopped, so you can see the market isn't ready to go to an all-download all-the-time format (and thats probably for the best), but this technique seems less draconian.

EB, Gamestop, et allia are really cockblocking the revenue stream by charging nearly-full-retail-price for pre-owned games, and pocketing all the cash themselves. They can fornicate themselves with an iron stick IMO.
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