The GI reviewer was complaining about the Predator requiering stealth. Whodathunkit?

"and I know all about 4.5s!"
This is why I read Destructoid every day

I've had the opposite experience, I've tired the PC demo (which my laptop can barely run so I'm not sure why I bothered) and even post-patch I'm struggling to find matches, especially ones with more than two other people in them, whereas on the 360 I get in full matches all the time.

Danm...must materialize $60 somehow! Pronto!

This game sucks,


that is all.

That Game Informer review is garbage.

If he doesn't like the game, fair enough.
Saying that there's too much stealth in the Predator campaign, and you fight too many Aliens as the Marines are not valid complaints.

Like you said Jim, You need to get what the game is about. It's not run and gun. You have to learn it. Seeing as the majority is filled with idiots who can't learn left from right, AvP3 is destined for some flak.

The Game Informer review proves it.

I think of it more as a remake of the old atari jaguar game then a new game and, honestly, it's a good remake.

In any event, the game is better than any of the AvP movies.

I was disheartened by the 5.75 until I actually read the review. There's nothing solid in the review itself that supports the score. The reviewer doesn't build a reason WHY the game sucks, in his opinion, only that it does suck.
Where's the evidence? Where's the detail?

I'm looking forward to the 16th/17th. Can't wait for the SP... and can't wait to bust out the Predator Hunt, Infestation, and Survivor game modes.

"Some people can still understand what the game was about and mark it poorly."

Absolutely, but if this review is any indication, that won't be the case with AvP. I have no problem with GI's decision to score AvP with that number (except the silly .75 nonsense) but I do ask that a reviewer does more to explain the score than simply say "it's crap because I don't like it and it's crap."

His arguments seem to indicate that he hasn't played an AvP game before. Complaining about walking on walls as an alien, or using stealth as a Predator, when these are the things that made the first two AvPs so successful. He even says the original AvPs were "critically acclaimed" but doesn't say he played them himself.

It's GI's review and as a fellow reviewer, I respect the score. I just don't think the writing that accompanied did a fair job of explaining the score.

I've had little problem getting full 8 on 360. I do like the demo even though I suck at it currently.

Johnny:

One of the biggest complaints seem to be the graphics, which is silly. It's not super beautiful but it's not ugly either. And also, the demo doesn't use DirectX 11 so we're not seeing it at full capacity.

Other people don't like the Alien controls, but I think they're just fine. It just requires you to have some spatial awareness and remember where you are on the map.

Others don't like the backstab stealth kills. A fair point, but that's for people who prefer run-and-guns. AvP is a game about opportunism and sneakiness, not face-to-face shooting. If you don't get with that idea, you won't like AvP.

yeah, i'm having the same issue as johnny justice - downloaded on psn and cannot get a game for the life of me. it just keeps searching, no connects. :(

Sure Jim, I understand this also. I am actually currently writing an extensive article into review scores, influenced by the particularly lengthy symposium that N'Gai Croal was engage in, with a view to setting up a review website for aspiring games journalists. In an explanation of intuitive reviews, I do feel that this point cannot be stressed enough: it is an all-too-important point to understand what Rebellion intended. But the review should, in my thesis, also cater for those who want to know if a game can be recommended. On this level, we can see the interesting point you've raised about previous installments. I would personally like to avoid the statement 'if you liked previous AvP you'll love this' because I feel it's lacking a certain power. But maybe here, Game Informer need to look more closely at Rebellion. That is actually another huge point I'm writing about. Would love to get some opinion on the piece when completed

Focus Mode and Jump (X or A on consoles) works as a pounce Overdoze.

Played the demo, not had any issues with not finding games. But it gave me such a rush the first time I played as a marine. Things like the motion tracker and Pulse Rifle effects, hissing aliens, the close sound of a hidden Predator clicking away.

Yes Im an Aliens fanboy (I have the Colonial Marines Technical Manual) so this game gets at least an 9.75 from me. AT LEAST.

Sorry to say this game doesn't interest me in the least.

I don't understand why people think this game is so awesome, particularly critics trying to be original or whatever.

The weapon balance sucks. (EX, flamethrower is worthless, plasma cannon is stupid (takes energy AND is slow AND does low damage), the javelin is painfully slow, etc.)
The muzzle flash of the assault rifle basically obscures the whole damn screen, yet it is only minimally visible if another marine is firing.
The PC controls are absolutely terrible.
The release of deathmach was colossally stupid.
The melee system and blocking mechanic is horrid (at least on the pc).
The fact that you cant mute other players mics in the lobby is idiotic.
Trophy kills are just stupid and unfun in general.

Ultimately the game might be fun in the horde mode or the campaign but there's nothing about it that is really new at this point, nor is there a huge refinement on a formula that is worth writing home about.

I really wish that the PS3 demo worked...

@Nesto Te: Well, they're Aliens and they look the same aside from the different breeds which seem to be in every game. Everything hasn't been revealed in this, so I'm sure there are other breeds in this game. It never affected the rating of the game or playability before, no reason for it to now.

but jim it got 4.5 out of 5. Now if you take 10 and divide it by 5 we get 2. So therefore to find the correct proportionality we mulitply 4.5 by 2 given us 9. Your darksiders reference has been duely noted

dont care bout the reviews, still getting it.

Just been playing as the alien, that was FUN :-) just so damn fast. Think Im going to get this over Bioshock 2 this month. The decision has been made.

@Nesto Te:"having to fight off a horde of Xenomorphs for the 100th time, the repetition drowns the experience."

Oh I'm sorry, do you fight fifty different enemies in MW2, Farcry 2, BFBC2, Stalker, Shattered Horizon, or UT3? No, it is the same enemy presented to you in different ways, with different gameplay dynamics and varying scenarios.


@:Res Judicata: People like the game because it's good, and your complaints are nothing but opinion. While the Flamethrowers DOES suck, the weapon balancing is fine. The Javelin is slow because it pretty much destroys your enemy if you hit them, the Plasmacaster auto-locks and fires 1-hit kill blasts, I don't know why you think its stupid that it would require energy and be slow to lock on.

I have no issues with seeing past the muzzleflash, try adjusting the brightness/contrast of your tv and game, you might have the settings to high.

The PC controls are fine, try playing more than a few games. Also check out my blog if you are interested in any tips on how to play. The melee and blocking work great if you have decent server host and you aren't hindered by lag. If you are lagging even a little bit then yes its a bit bullshit.

I also agree that choosing FFA was the worst decision they could have made. TDM would have even been a better choice. The matchmaking and lobby is very barebones and hopefully they will update it to have a few more options like muting players.

Trophy kills ARE fun, you just need to learn how to not be a victim so easily.

@Overdoze:"i think that if you played a lot of avp2 multiplayer (particularly the alien), you will be a little bit dissapointed."

I have to disagree. I played a lot of AvP2 back in the day and I think the Alien is better than it has ever been. It's less about flying at your enemy with massive leaps and more about stalking and choosing your moment to attack, and I like this intensity much more than the AvP2.

@Res Judicata: I have to agree with just about everything you said, especially about the muzzle flash making it impossible to see what you're shooting at. Hell, the marine in general seems so utterly gimped that you might as well put a big "Kill Me" sign on your character's forehead when you play one.