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Alan Wake DLC will feature improved facial animation photo

I haven't played Alan Wake yet, but if we are to trust the ever trustworthy Jim Sterling then it's a very good game, despite a few flaws. One of those flaws is some really funky looking facial animations throughout the game. That might not be an issue for the game's DLC, though.

On Remedy's forum the developer posted that the disappointing facial animations were being worked on for the upcoming DLC of the game. "We have a few different methods of doing facial animation - in-game using FaceFX and motion capture used in cinematics. While I think it'll always be possible to get "fugly" single frames out of any game we definitely learned a lot doing Alan Wake, and will try to improve the way we do things to get best possible looking facials. In fact, we're using some of the improvements in the DLC production already."

While it's pretty clear from the almost universal praise the game is receiving that Alan Wake's facial animation flaws don't really damage the game, it's good to hear that Remedy is taking such immediate action and reworking a tech that isn't that easy to redo.

Alan Wake DLC to improve in-game faces [CVG]








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Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:04
Sæglópur
Meh, the game already looks awesome.
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:06
VolksONER
"we do things to get best possible looking facials" starts giggling immaturely
nesky's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:14
nesky
A DLC? I don't get it. Why not a patch?
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:21
fetusmilk
so the DLC will look better than the actual game? thats just stupid.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:25
KingSigy
I guess that's cool, but why is this important for developers? How about improving the combat a tiny bit?
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:25
Los255
A DLC? I don't get it. Why not a patch?

Because if there is nothing to patch in the main game, they would just carry it over to the episodic DLC that will not only give them the excuse to do it, but will obviously bring back some people that may have finished the game already.

BREAKING: I wanna play this game already!!
Sir Legendhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:27
Sir Legendhead
All games should have DLC facials.

It's only right.
WhiteZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:31
WhiteZombie
yea, i too laughed at the "facials" part
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:41
VolksONER
"we do things to get best possible looking facials" starts giggling immaturely
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:44
VolksONER
Stupid refresh button!
Anyway. Didn't they have like 20+ years to develop this game. Why didn't they add this pre-release?
Sir Legendhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 10:51
Sir Legendhead
I don't get the joke, you guys. I really do think all games should have this feature.

I would definitely pay money to put some new facials on my Commander Shepard, for instance. The ones I give her now are stiff and kind of chunky. I want them to be more liquid and warm, y'know?

It would make her feel more human.
Sogeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 11:01
Sogeman
@Sir Legendhead: Thanks for the lol


Next time they'll release the whole head later as DLC. Stupid DLC
Bennyishere's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 11:10
Bennyishere
I always skip to the end of Alan Wake to see the facial.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 11:38
SayWord
Why couldn't they just add all the dlc onto the main game instead of releasing half a game on a disc? I don't think that is really fair. Usually dlc just adds extra contents and side stories to the nain story already finished after playing the gane. As good as alan wake looks I'm not paying 60 bucks for an incomplete game.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 11:57
RenegadePanda
@SayWord

That whole 'imcomplete game' bullshit is just a reason for people like you to complain. The reality is that games take a long time to develop, and at some point you need to draw a line somewhere between what makes the game and what has to be released as DLC, otherwise we would be waiting another year for Alan Wake. It's not like they're cutting disc content and reselling it to us, that's an 'imcomplete game' since the content is already there. Alan Wake's DLC, from what I hear, is more of a complement to the main storyline rather than an integral part of it.
VolksONER's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 12:32
VolksONER
@ renegade panda.... I'm gonna have to disagree with you and include examples. GTA4 excellent example of what dlc SHOULD be. Bad company 2 (love this game) "free" map packs... Rehashed maps and the dr pepper codes that unlock "new" character models that are already in the single player campaign. Excellent example of "incomplete game". Super street fighter is another one. Day one alternate costumes. Come on capcom what happened to earning these items through gameplay?
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 12:42
runtheplacered
@SayWord,

"As good as alan wake looks I'm not paying 60 bucks for an incomplete game."

You're not. You're paying for a complete game. You don't have to buy any DLC. If you have OCD and just can't stand the thought of not having absolutely every single little thing, then I guess you're screwed. Otherwise, you have options.
Jaffacakelover's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 12:53
Jaffacakelover
@Shael: Thanks for the spoiler warning there, captain.
Woocifer's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:38
Woocifer
Does this mean we have to purchase better facial animations? Well it looks like online gaming has finally been utilized to defend shoddy craftsmanship. It's a good thing video games aren't life threatening because we'd have millions of deaths on our hands for the level of professionalism put into the craft. And before any of you guys jump on my back, I work in the industry, I know what goes into making a game, and I know what goes into putting out a game...and believe me the only thing of interest is money money money. Don't kid yourselves ok? The publisher was probably like look you bastards we need this to come out in this time period to make the most cash. If you don't stop draining money out of us by pushing development time then we're just going to can the game and stop all funding.

Adversely, the developer's CEO probably looks at the situation in saying, ok I can't pay these pricks who bleed their lives into a game for the rest of my life. Either we have a massive layoff or we put this title out now, get the cash flow in, hit our milestone and move towards cleaning up any bits and pieces that we missed from the rush towards getting it all done.

And how do you satisfy one super rich power hungry man? Offer him more money and the illusion that he has control. You tell the publisher look, we are ready to go, we can put the game out. We have a snag on the quality of the facial animations, however we have a solution. We'll make it look like premium content is coming, add in the stuff we couldn't get done in the time allotted and then sell it to the public as if it was this grand gesture of dedication. Which it isn't...

OR if we do put this out and we don't charge for it, it's just another thing to dangle in front of an initial adoption premium as content we can keep form the 2nd hand sales that will happen at EB and other retailers.

Guys... stop thinking companies care. The workers care. The heads of the companies care about survival. And your 60-70 bucks is not going to kill you. But if they fail to put that title out at the right time, it will possibly kill them.

Just giving you some insight into the industry and not the fanaticism. It's just flat out business guys.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:42
Sexualchocolate
So there's a problem with our game and we want to sell you a fix for it. Nice.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:42
Sexualchocolate
So there's a problem with our game and we want to sell you a fix for it. Nice.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:54
Turbofail
Wait, so they fucked up, and now I gotta pay to fix it?! That's like asking people to pay for a multiplayer patch. "We've learned a lot since we released online multiplayer for TF2, and now that we have gotten rid of the lag and multiple exploits, people will really enjoy the game with the new DLC".

What a crock of shit.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:56
pedrovay2003
I think people are acting WAY too butthurt over this.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 13:56
Turbofail
Unless they mean the DLC will be extra missions or something, and those will use the new facial animation technology they are playing with, in which case, cool.

But if not, fuck em.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 14:11
ArrestedDeveloper
I hope by "improved facial animations" they mean "constant Max Payne sneer".
testmunky's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 14:24
testmunky
@ Everyone who thinks you will have to buy a patch
They aren't talking about a patch in DLC form they are saying that when the release the DLC it won't have the weird animations.
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 16:40
flea friend
But you will have to pay to fix the facial animations.


It's definitely a crummy thing to do, but I don't really mind. I won't be buying it, but I don't really care all that much.

Alan Wake will just be that fun game with the scary atmosphere that was compromised somewhat by cheap shots, bad facial animations, and thermos collecting.
readbigwordsisgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 17:58
readbigwordsisgood
CVG did this interview and they didn't ask why a patch is being called DLC?

If they don't know enough about videogames to call out weasel words perhaps CVG should jut stop writing about games.
JoeCamNet's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 18:29
JoeCamNet
Assholes, the DLC isn't going to change the animations in the main game. You aren't buying a fix. You're buying new content with better animation.
MisterFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 18:45
MisterFox
Sure, it's a good thing they take care of it now, but it would have been even better if they took care of it in the first place. 'cause you can't tell me they missed that. It's awful and awkward.

Still, it seems like a splendid horror-exploran-game. I'm sorta considering it.
all great games have a fart button's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 19:25
all great games have a fart button
The original Uncharted came out in what...2007? (as it's been that long since facial animations have advanced to a smooth level)
There's no excuse for any game in 2010 to have bad facial animations. That's just a glaring fault on the lack of developer talent.
Not like this was a rushed game. They shouldn't have had this problem. It's called being professional.
What have they been doing for FIVE YEARS? Deciding where to stick the in-game ads? Debating if the Verizon deal netted them good free calling plans?
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 19:29
Mr Andy Dixon
"the DLC isn't going to change the animations in the main game. You aren't buying a fix. You're buying new content with better animation."

This.

Why was that so hard for some of you to understand? Reading skills not up to par?
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 19:30
Sæglópur
Yeah, no reason, eh? Considering Naughty Dog has 100s of employees and Remedy has 50.

Fuck, put things into perspective, people!
testmunky's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 21:30
testmunky
@JoeCamNet
You did a better job of explaining that than I did, the lack of reading comprehension here is amazing.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 22:13
Stephen Beirne
I'm surprized Remedy aren't being chastised for the fuck up. There must be some part of the game that is wholely original and revolutionary to vindicate the extreme development time, considering from what I've seen and heard it's suffering from a few very obvious faults.
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/08/2010 22:49
Thulsa Dooom
As glitznglam-style said, Remedy is a small, PRIVATELY OWNED studio. Naughty Dog's is neither of those things with Sony as a parent company.

I love games but they're obviously destroying the average gamer's reading comprehension. Pathetic.
Ayb Sidewinda's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/09/2010 04:00
Ayb Sidewinda
and will try to improve the way we do things to get best possible looking facials.

WOW
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/09/2010 04:42
The Amazing Shenazin
so how long are we gonna have to wait for this?
Katya's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2011 02:38
Katya
They shouldn't have had this problem. It's called being professional.
Best regards, Katya, CEO of dvd r burning software, windows storage server 2003 iscsi target
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