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Addendum: Nintendo of America needs to STFU... AJPG photo

Sunday before last, Jim rocked the internet with a post called "Nintendo of America needs to STFU." After reading it, I was immediately hit with the urge to follow it with my own thoughts (and it looks like I'm not alone on that, judging by the 297 comments the original post has garnered thus far). Unlike Jim, I own a Wii, and it's by far my favorite console this generation.

Although I wasn't totally sold on the Wii at first, at this point in its life cycle, all of my initial gripes with the system (weak online, storage space issues, limited 3rd-party line up) have more or less been fixed. Even if they weren't, the console's library would still be a better fit for me than what the other home consoles have going on right now. The PS3/360's focus on 3D "realistic" graphics, Hollywood action movie-style scenarios, and online competition just isn't for me. Sure, the 360 and the PS3 each have seven or eight exclusives that I truly love, but that's nothing compared to the over thirty Wii games that I consider "must-own" titles. 

So yeah, I like the Wii, but that doesn't mean I like Nintendo of America. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the Wii has taken more damage from NoA than it ever has from Sony or Microsoft. As a true fan of what the Wii is supposed to represent, it's enough to make me want to call Reggie myself and tell him to shut the heck up and just publish videogames. Unfortunately, Reggie doesn't seem to be home right now (either that, or the number he gave me is a fake), so I guess I'll just type up my thoughts instead. Hit the jump for my full-on NoA b*tch list.

[Thank to CypherVR for the image!]

Now, I don't want to duplicate too much of what Jim said in his article, but I do need to start off by restating the most obvious problem with NoA: they lie, and badly. Of all the "in defense of Nintendo" blogs and comments I've read over the years, I've never heard this point disputed. NoA figureheads like Reggie, Cammie, and Denise come off as untrustworthy car salespeople at best, and underhanded politicians at worst. They are liars, and we know it.

Now, it's fine for "those in power" like NoA to lie to your face, as long as you're relatively sure they're still trying to do the right thing. That's how it's always worked with politicians, lawyers, and other professional liars; we accept that they have to bend the truth sometimes in order to do their jobs. The problem with NoA is that they don't seem to want to do their jobs, which is to make us happy so we will give them money. Worse, they seem to actively make us unhappy. If you are a videogame fan, at one point or another you've been made fun of for being a gamer -- probably by some snobby jerk who believes that there's something wrong with everyone who loves videogames. Well, NoA representatives tend come off like those jerks. They don't seem to be interested in videogames, their customers, or anything other than attention and money. Maybe that's no big deal if you're selling shoes, but when you're representing the biggest videogame company on the planet, it's sort of a deal-breaker.

This probably wouldn't be such a huge deal if we didn't have the artists at Nintendo of Japan to compare them to. Miyamoto and Iwata both worked as game developers for years, and neither of them had future millions in their sights. Back then, both of them were in it for one thing: the love of videogames. I believe it's that love that got them where they are today. Nintendo of Japan's business philosophy is based on an unyielding commitment to videogames, and the belief that the medium is a legitimate form of entertainment, and therefore doesn't need to cater to only one demographic.

Sure, NoJ has a tendency to shy away from graphic violence or other potentially disturbing subject matter (with some exceptions), but that's just who they are, and that's who they've always been. If they tried to "grow up" along with the kids who now see themselves as "too old" for Nintendo, with a GTA-style Mario game or a Halo-style Zelda title, that would just be selling out. That would be like Jim Henson making Muppet Scarface, or Miyazaki trying his hand at tentacle porn. It's below Nintendo of Japan to try and cash in on the Western "hardcore" audience with a bunch of "M"-rated games. If they went in that direction, it wouldn't be genuine. More so, it would suck.

No, I don't think even the most staunch Nintendo hater could claim that Nintendo of Japan isn't genuine about their passion for videogames. Miyamoto has enough hits under his belt that he could have retired rich and famous a long time ago, but instead he's still at it, and is still coming up with stuff for games that's never been done before. This whole thing he's doing right now with the "wife-o-meter" and the expanded audience may feel like a betrayal to some, but it clearly comes from a place of truly wanting videogames to be appreciated by everybody. In fact, Nintendo of Japan is putting out more Wii games for their core audience than they ever did on the GC/N64/SNES/NES. The problem is, Nintendo of America isn't willing to publish a huge bulk of them.

NoA won't publish risky, potentially unprofitable games like Fatal Frame IV, Captain Rainbow, Trace Memory 2, Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, Mother 3, Disaster: Day of Crisis, and many others, because they care more about the bottom line than they care about distributing art. Where NoJ tries to make enough money so they can make more games, NoA only publishes games so they can make more money. That's the fundamental difference between an artist and businessman, or in this case, an art dealer.

Any good art dealer will tell you that you that in order to be successful, you have to take risks on art you deal. Not everything is going to hit, but if you do your job right, any quality work will find its audience. That's not NoA's attitude, but that's already been established. The really weird thing about NoA is that they claim that it's not even up to them to decide what they publish, though the creators of The Legend of Starfy will tell you otherwise. According to an IGN interview with the game's developers, "they [the developers] always wanted to bring Starfy to the US, but Nintendo of America deemed the game 'too Japanese' for American audiences." So yeah, it's that kind of thing that gives NoA a reputation for lying.

For the sake of argument, though, what if we were to believe NoA when they say that they don't decide which games are brought to the States? This raises the question, "What would you say you do here, Reggie?" Public relations? That's weird, because Nintendo already has a huge firm called GolinHarris (which is a really great company, might I add) that does all their PR for them, at least in theory. Clearly, though, NoA's figureheads see themselves as the top of the Nintendo PR food chain, which is really unfortunate, because their public statements rarely do anything but piss people off. What do you think Nintendo of Europe thought when Reggie publicly dissed Disaster: Day of Crisis just after it launched in the UK? If someone who worked for NoE had said that, you can bet your ass they would have been fired that day. Not so with Reggie and the gang. The phenomenon smacks of something I call "the Michael Jackson effect." Really, who's going to tell Reggie that he comes off like a phony who could give a rat's ass about what Nintendo really stands for? Not someone who wants to keep their job, that's who.

Now, I don't mean to generalize. There are great people at work at NoA. The company's localization team is particularly awesome. The sad thing is, whenever someone who really loves videogames starts to climb the corporate ladder at NoA, they don't seem to last.

At the Brawl tournament back in 2007, I actually met some people at Nintendo of America who loved their product, and were skilled at showing it. Eric Walter knew his Nintendo inside and out, and seemed genuinely passionate about what he was doing. That nationwide pre-release Brawl tournament was all his thing, and he worked his ass off to make it happen. It was one of the coolest events Nintendo of America has ever done, and being there made me begin to believe that NoA might start looking to appease their core audience again. 

Yeah, guess who doesn't work for Nintendo of America anymore? That's right, Eric Walter, the guy who should have gotten Cammie's job. I don't know what the conditions of his departure were, but I can guess that Nintendo of America could have kept him if they, you know, valued his work. Instead, they hired more people who don't give a crap about videogames and Garrett Morris to act clueless while playing Mario Kart DS.

Great job!

I write this article not out of malice, but out of genuine nerd-concern. As you've probably figured out, I love Nintendo of Japan. Although a lot of people in America seem worried about the direction they're headed in, I'm not concerned at all, because they are still focused on putting games and gamers first. The problem with Nintendo and their public face all falls on Nintendo of America, who seem determined to put up barriers between Americans and the products of Nintendo of Japan.

It may be okay right now for NoA to alienate "real" Nintendo fans, but how long do they think they're going to get away with it? What are Reggie and the gang going to do when Sony and Microsoft get their own Wiis and DSes going? Well, I can guess what Nintendo of Japan will do. They'll come out with some awesome, weird, risk-taking new games and consoles. For better or worse, that's what they've always done, because that's what artists do. They don't just settle for repeating previously profitable tactics; they move ahead and try new things while they still have the chance. Will NoA block these future games from being localized because they are "too Japanese"? Probably. Will they instead put out commercials featuring the ex-cast of The Hills pretending to like Mario Kart Wii ten years after it's released? I wouldn't doubt it. Would that spell the end of Nintendo as the leading videogame developer on the planet?

Yeah, probably.

The possibilities for crap are endless, but I also know that there is a remote possibility that the "right" thing will happen: that Nintendo of America will shut the fuck up and just publish videogames -- and by that I mean every videogame that Nintendo of Japan releases, and then some. If they want to go really crazy, they could even hire the dedicated artists who are putting homebrew apps on the Wii and DS as we speak to make commercial products. Right now, they are making enough money from Wii Play and Mario Kart Wii that they can afford to do all that, and they better get moving before it's too late.

Too bad President of Nintendo of America isn't an elected position. If it was, I'd run for sure.


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TehBuLL's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:03
TehBuLL
k.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:07
Murumasa123
Very interesting NOA needs to definitely stop messing with people who clearly care enough to write long articles.
Still Wii favorite console of THIS generation more like LAST GENERATION! LOL! ROFLCOPTER!
danthuman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:15
danthuman
ROFLSAUSAGES
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:15
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
Couldn't agree more. I think post E3 '08 really showed the diffrence between NOA and NOJ. Iwata actually issued an apology, agreeing that they shouldn't have left the core gamers out of the conference, and assured the hardcore demographic that they were not and would not be abandoned. Reggie just said that he didn't know how we could feel left out. After all, we had Animal Crossing!

But it's what you said midway in that pisses me off the most. Refusing to publish some of the greatest games of all time because there "too Japanese" just really grinds my gears :<

Great post though! Just fills me with so much rage XD
TripleZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:18
TripleZer0
That's so true. Every time I hear Reggie speak, I want to walk up to him and slap the taste right out of his mouth.
ahorne12's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:19
ahorne12
I'd be interested to hear the 30 "must-own" Wii titles. I own about 20 Wii games, some of which are "must-own" in my opinion, but overall can only think of 10-15 such titles.
roriginal's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:23
roriginal
I Agree. Liyng to your consumer is never a good thing. Please post the 30 must haves on the wii. I need to get some games.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:26
PEICanada7
Can I just ask, why isn't Jonathan Holmes ever on Podtoid? He would be a perfect counter balance to all the BS on the show. Now don't get me wrong, I love Podtoid as I listen to it every week, but its just getting so one sided lately. I think some new personalities on the show, is exactly what it needs and there would be no better candidate than Jonathan Holmes.
Zepwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:26
Zepwich
@ahorne12

I doubt there would be 30 must own, but for the lack of games they do make up in AAA titles.
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:28
gatorsax2010
Glad you posted this. It's interesting to see a version of Jim's article from someone who actually enjoys the Wii. I'm in the same boat as you. I don't own as many Wii games as you, but I absolutely love my Wii. When done right, I think that motion controls can be even more intuitive than regular controls (see RE4. Metroid Prime). And ever since I started gamin on the NES, Nintendo has been my favorite developer, followed closely by Capcom.

This paragraph sums it up best for me:

"This probably wouldn't be such a huge deal if we didn't have the artists at Nintendo of Japan to compare them to. Miyamoto and Iwata both worked as game developers for years, and neither of them had future millions in their sights. Back then, both of them were in it for one thing: the love of videogames. I believe it's that love that got them where they are today. Nintendo of Japan's business philosophy is based on an unyielding commitment to videogames, and the belief that the medium is a legitimate form of entertainment, and therefore doesn't need to cater to only one demographic."

When they're at their best, no one can make games like Nintendo. It's a shame that the American branch doesn't want to show that off.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:28
PappaDukes
*FAP*
DoubleDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:29
DoubleDragon
Fear me! I am the "hardcore" gamer! If I don't get exclusively catered to on every console I will throw a fit and teach Nintendo a lesson because it has never seen wrath like the wrath of a nerd! Nintendo can't survive without the hardcore, so we'll show them! We're supposed to be the only child!

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/question-to-nintendo-apologists/
FinnE's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:34
FinnE
30+ must own titles for the Wii? I own a Wii, but all my friends call me a Wii hater so maybe I'm biased here...but I can only count six (that aren't multiplatform). MadWorld, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Twilight Princess. And then you get a couple titles that are debatable, like Super Paper Mario and other games of the like.

I don't know what kind of titles are out there for the Wii, admittedly. But its for a good reason: I'm busy playing my Xbox 360 because it has a bunch of really great exclusives, by far the best online experience of the current console generation, and has far greater third party developers on board.

But I do agree with everything you said about Nintendo of America, just lucky that I never play it so I don't really care all that much.
Infinite Obscurity's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:34
Infinite Obscurity
I am also wondering what these 30 "must-have" games are Sir Holmes.
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:35
ejamer
@ahorne12 and Jonathan:

Actually (coming from a big Wii fan) I'd also love to hear Jonathan's "must own" list for Wii titles - it would be interesting to see what he enjoys playing, and might even give me a few extra games to pick up. If he does that, it would probably be better as a separate article (or maybe a blog entry).

I've got about 30 Wii games that fit that description for me. Even though I suspect many core gamers would scoff at a significant number of them, the games those people would deem "must own" mostly wouldn't matter to me. Luckily it's all opinion and personal preference... so there is no wrong answer about which games are best.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:35
Im OK
I'll just restate what I said in my comment to Jim's article, regarding Fatal Frame 4, Trace Memory 2, and the rest:

Fuck you, Nintendo of America. Fuck you up the anus with a dried up corncob.
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:36
bustaballs
The only problem I had with Jim's article was that he bashed the console itself. If he stuck with bashing just NoA, it would have been fine. With the 360 and PS3 he only bashed Microsoft and Sony but said the consoles were great. When he came to the Wii, he says,

"I had a Wii, once. I don't anymore. I sold mine for a tidy profit before I left Europe for the United States, but so far I have not considered an NTSC Wii to be a worthy investment. Unlike the 360 and the PS3, I have no real love for the Wii. I barely consider it a game system."


To which I reply,

"Sony didn't advertise the PS3 as a game console as much as it did a multimedia center. Even Microsoft is like "look at all the non gaming things you can do!!!1!1" Nintendo has devoted 95% of it's console to gaming, so, if anything, the Wii is MORE of a gaming console than the other two."

I just thought it was a sad thing because the Wii is my favorite current gen system as well. I have a 360 and love it but I fear it will die every time I turn it on. I already had to repair it once myself. I don't have many complaints about the PS3. All the systems are great. Why can't fanboys understand this?
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:39
TheCleaningGuy
Jon, I was looking forward to your take on NoA ever since I read Jim's. I hope NoA will shape up, since there's so much they have to offer, but they treat the people who want all the things they could release with disdain.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:41
Rabite
Why do so many articles on this site seem to get articles from seanmalstrom.com lately? I'm not going to follow the link, so if nobody cares to explain I'll just write it off as unrelated spam.

I'm in agreement with Im OK: Fuck you Nintendo of America. I would have bought Mother 1+2 GBA and probably Mother 3. Legend of Stafy is an amazing series, thankfully you have finally seen fit to let us uncultured heathens touch it without having to import it, you ignorant fucks.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:42
eternalplayer2345
WE MISS HOWARD LINCOLN
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:47
MisterGrieves
@The Reborn


@Jonathan

I agree 100%. NOA needs to get its head out of its ass before it completely ruins the synergy that used to exist between them and their Japanese counterparts. I think what's required might be a gradual regime change. Or fiery pit of damnation.

Sorry Cammie, you're first!
SPY-V's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:51
SPY-V
you grow out of nintendo at 15 and grow back in at 51. tried it. two months of pure bliss then lost interest. motion plus would have kept me longer but I sold it to a 61 year old co worker. truth in the post I tell you.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:52
ace of knaves
Reggie's meat is the meat of evil and malcontent.
Subenu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:57
Subenu
Interesting to see that there are people who like the Wii as a videogame system. Jim's comment on that was just ridiculous and I for myself have about 10 titeles (VC and Wiiware excluded) that I really love. Stilln interested in your selection of titles though, Mr. Holmes.

Since I live in Europe, I might have less to complain about (thanks for Trace Memory 2 and Disaster!) but still no Fatal Frame 4?
Justice Pain's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 15:58
Justice Pain
Reading the comments here, it's hilarious how little people here know about Nintendo in general. Yes, that includes the author of this article.
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:02
bustaballs
I love the Wii but I hate NoA. I look at all of the titles Japan gets and I just hate NoA more and more everytime.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:02
Electrium
Genuine, logical criticisms of NoA. I like this article a lot, I think it really resounded with a lot of us, whether we're still Nintendo fans or have long deserted the Wii.

I remember when Reggie first broke onto the Nintendo scene, and NP always talked about how awesome he was like he was the next Chuck Norris or something. Yeah, so much for that.

NoA has this totally irrational fear that anyone who plays video games and shows any sign of enjoyment from it is destined to live in their parents' basement and remain a virgin for all eternity. So their representatives go and bash the "hardcore" gamer as if they all fit that stereotype, and whaddaya know, they end up ripping on the 99% of their loyal following that doesn't fit that stereotype. Somebody needs to walk into NoA HQ and just start slapping people until that fear of "gamers" gets out of their head.
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:04
bustaballs
@ Justice Pain

Reading your comment here, it's hilarious how you make an accusation without supporting it with any further information or sources.
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:06
ejamer
Since anti-Wii fanboys are acting like dicks about it, I'm listing some games that I consider "must own" for Wii below.

Only on Wii, AFAIK, with related games in brackets:
1. Boom Blox (+Bash Party)
2. Dawn of Discovery
3. de Blob
4. Endless Ocean
5. Excitebots: Trick Racing (Excite Truck)
6. Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
7. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
8. Ghostbusters
9. Ghost Squad
10. Grand Slam Tennis
11. House of the Dead: Overkill
12. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
13. Little King's Story
14. Mad World
15. Mario Kart Wii
16. Metroid Prime Trilogy
17. No More Heroes
18. Punch-Out!!
19. Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
20. Super Mario Galaxy
21. Super Paper Mario
22. Tales of Symphonia
23. Trauma Center: Second Opinion (+New Blood)
24. Wario Land: Shake It!
25. Wii Sports
26. Wii Sports Resort
27. Zack & Wiki

Definitive version on Wii, making other versions obsolete:
1. Okami
2. Pikmin New Play Control
3. Pro Evolution Soccer 2009
4. Rayman Raving Rabbids (+TV Party)
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Scarface: The World is Yours
7. The Godfather: Blackhand Edition
8. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10

Available elsewhere, but a "must own" somewhere:
1. Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars
2. Bully: Scholarship Edition
3. Geometry Wars: Galaxies (or at least close enough)
4. Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
5. Sam & Max: Season One

Some notes:
-- There are several other games like BlastWorks or The Munchables that are personal favorites, but I'm not listing them since many people would disagree what a "must own" title really is.
-- Note the complete lack of Virtual Console and/or WiiWare titles? All three consoles have some great downloadable games that deserve to be listed, but that's not what we're discussing here.
-- People who bitch about some games on the list being ports can just shutup. First, there's not that many. Second, most have significant improvments. Third, I didn't own the original game, so each of them is a "must own" for me.
Kylehyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:10
Kylehyde
I'm really glad that a person who likes the Wii has expressed their concern. I don't have a Wii, but I have a DS, and I feel in the same way, I mean, there are many great titles in Japan that where developed by them or his first and second parties, but they didn't bring it because they think that are "too japanese" and don't wanna take riskies, for God's sake, I bet that the first mario game was a big risk before they decide to publsih the game. It's really sad when other companies take the risk, unfortunately, this case are very rare. I love the DS, but it worries me the lack of interest that NoA has show in this year for this great portable system. The nintendo consoles will be a lot better if all the NoA executives get fired, but thats just a dream.
MowDownJoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:11
MowDownJoe
@bustaballs: There's that, and the fact that he was trying to rabble-rouse by looking only at E3 '08, and completely ignoring E3 '09.

Applause to Mr. Holmes. As any fan of Earthbound can attest, NoA has screwed over its fans more times that you can count... whether it's the legal team saying that the affectionate musical homages in Earthbound would lead to lawsuits, or just great games like the ones you mentioned being deemed "not worth the risk".
ChickenNow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:12
ChickenNow
@ejamer
"5. Excitebots: Trick Racing (Excite Truck)
6. Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon "

You're joking right?

Also, Ghostbusters is not Wii only. I don't care if it plays/looks different, it's the same game and it's very very far from a must-own.

And many of those titles are very, very debatable. I'd only pick about 8 of those as must own.

"Definitive version on Wii, making other versions obsolete:
-Resident Evil 4 "

I lold

I've got nothing against the wii, there's lots of awesome titles that I own and love on it, but you're really stretching the definition of a "must own" title.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:12
Hcapt
1. Don't call NoA liars without telling us what they lied about.

2. Starfy WAS too Japanese for America. (only 180k sold in the U.S.)

3. Fatal Frame sold terribly in Japan (80k) - why follow good money after bad?

You have to remember Nintendo's reputation in America is too pristeen. They can't afford to release average games because American's automatically associate Nintendo with superior products, and Nintendo can't afford to lose that image.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:15
CypherVR
And, i thank you - jonathan & jim

--

FF4 & earthbound(any way shape or form/lawsuits BS) not coming to the US is a shame
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:19
CypherVR
Reggie:

Cammie:
Wan Sum Dung's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:25
Wan Sum Dung
Too many people have already said everything I'd say at this point, so...

Nice post. >_>
Tascar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:25
Tascar
Jonathan, I completely agree with you and I hope that you don't get as much trouble as I did with my cblog on Nintendo's PR failings.

P.S. Hcapt and anyone else who is one of Sean Malstrom's fanboys or fangirls, please PM me using the forum. I am curious on extending our previous discussions.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:26
GoldenGamerXero
For me the Wii is the home console that's doing enough right. I say screw the people who can't appreciate the Wii (That includes Nintendo) I love the damn thing so give me a company whose most talkitive reps hate my guts and I'll still support the great games that ejamer listed and more.

Also for Captain Rainbow. Fuck you Nintendo. Just FUCK. YOU! You know when people say that videogames with colour don't sell less I just point them to Captain Rainbow and explain that it was either homophobia, the bright and colourful nature or just the fact that it was something that gamers could like on the Wii that made them decide not to translate it.

@Hcapt

Please we're all just disgruntled Wii gamers who are sick of the constant bull they feed us. How can you say that Nintendo's associated to "superior products" when they release a lot of WORSE games by anyone's standards but can't be bothered to take a chance when people ask them to?

1. They're most certainly lying about Earthbound and Mother 3 and I believe holmes brought that up.

2. 180K is not terrible by game standards considering how long it's been out and how unknown it is. It also got on the charts so no it was certainly NOT too Japanese.

3. Fatal Frame may have sold poorly in Japan but that does not make it a bad game. They don't have that much to lose as it either shows they give a crap about the people who want it or it sells well.
Mecha Six VII's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:26
Mecha Six VII
I miss when nintendo published fun games....
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:28
Steel Brotha
@ ejamer
Ghostbusters isn't Wii only, Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort get boring really quickly, The Godfather games were mediocre hence why there won't be a Godfather 3 (says EA themselves), Wario Land: Shake It was basically a DS game put on the Wii, and Endless Ocean? Come On seriously?
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:29
Steel Brotha
@ ejamer
Ghostbusters isn't Wii only, Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort get boring really quickly, The Godfather games were mediocre hence why there won't be a Godfather 3 (says EA themselves), Wario Land: Shake It was basically a DS game put on the Wii, and Endless Ocean? Come On seriously?
Subenu's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:36
Subenu
So many fanboys in one comment section... wow...
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:47
Black Nexus
297 comments here we come again.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:52
brainderailment
ejamer fails
ahorne12's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:53
ahorne12
@ejamer

I wasn't being a dick about it - I'm genuinely curious to see what others consider "must-own" wii games, especially since the writer of this article claims there are 30. I love my Wii, and think there are lots of great games, and a lot more good games, but 30 seemed a bit high for "must-own."

That being said, I don't totally agree that every game you list is a must-own. From your list, I'd suggest:

1. Boom Blox (+Bash Party)
12. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
13. Little King's Story
15. Mario Kart Wii
16. Metroid Prime Trilogy
17. No More Heroes
18. Punch-Out!!
20. Super Mario Galaxy
21. Super Paper Mario
25. Wii Sports
26. Wii Sports Resort
27. Zack & Wiki
1. Okami
5. Resident Evil 4
8. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10

So that's 15 I've got....about what I said before. Maybe I'm off base, maybe there's some I truly am missing (I haven't played every Wii game there is), but are there really 15 must-own games I'm missing out on? I'd like to know, so I can put them on my "to check out" list.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 16:54
DinnertimeNinja
@J Holmes,

That is EXACTLY the way that I feel.

NoJ is where it all started, and to this day I still think they've got the right idea. But looking back on it, basically ALL of the major complaints I've had about the Wii can pretty much be attributed to Nintendo of America.

They're too damn cocky and they won't even LOCALIZE great (if a little quirky, but I like that too) games that are ALREADY MADE and being enjoyed by Japanese gamers.

Mature games sell like crap for the Wii in the US because NoA comes across as not caring about anyone except for the casual crowd, and that makes mature gamers dislike them.

In Japan, frickin' everyone has a DS, and no one blinks an eye when you break one out in public, but in the US, people look at you like you're still 10 years old for playing one.

Seems to me there's a huge disconnect between the way that NoJ portrays their systems and the way NoA does. And I would have to say that I honestly feel like NoA couldn't care less about getting me as a customer and as such, I don't care for BEING one anymore.
SantanaClaus89's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 17:02
SantanaClaus89
If you like the Wii you're probably gay.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 17:07
Jon Bloodspray
@ejamer
my copy of RE 4 on the gamecube is obsolete now? CURSES!
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 17:08
bustaballs
If you like flashing megaman avatars, you're probably gay.
michaelb99's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/26/2009 17:08
michaelb99
good post jonathan when u think about it you have teh same stance on NOA and wii as jim sterling with PS3 and sony and i have to agree with both those stances
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