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This is really, really sick industrial filth. Come on guys, wreck Activision's E3 booth while you can. E3 is not over yet.
Activision employed Simon Cowell as its lord of nastiness I see.
Or maybe they're planning to resurrect Hitler or something.
Either way, shut your face Activision. Just because you now see that this would have made you tons of moolah doesn't mean you can bitch and whine to get a slice of the pie.
Or maybe they're planning to resurrect Hitler or something.
Either way, shut your face Activision. Just because you now see that this would have made you tons of moolah doesn't mean you can bitch and whine to get a slice of the pie.
Eques-Ardor is right Activision wanted nothing to do with Brutal Legend after the merger, but now after all the buzz its creating at E3 they're gonna be total asshole about it.
Eques-Ardor is right Activision wanted nothing to do with Brutal Legend after the merger, but now after all the buzz its creating at E3 they're gonna be total asshole about it.
Activision feels "irreparable harm"...
B) won't have the opportunity to sell DLC for the game]
Yeah... Activision.
B) won't have the opportunity to sell DLC for the game]
Yeah... Activision.
Since when did Activision become the asshats and EA the good guy? Welcome EA to the land of gamer's hearts. You can sit to the table with Atlus, Capcom and Retro Studios. Oh sorry Activision you not on the list anymore but you can stay outside with Southpeak and Square Enix (Yeah I'm bringing that up. Again)
For Activision, if there's one thing worse than not making money, it's losing money to ANOTHER company, namely EA.
So, lets go to that next step:
What's the implication of "boycotting" Activision?
Prototype
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Guitar Hero
CoD
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
The new transformers game.
Anybody up for that one?
What's the implication of "boycotting" Activision?
Prototype
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Guitar Hero
CoD
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
The new transformers game.
Anybody up for that one?
Activision gives Double Fine 15 million to make a game.
Double Fine drags their feet, misses a deadline.
Double Fine demands another 7 million to finish the game.
Activision tells them to go fuck themselves.
EA then illegally scoops up 15 million worth of work for nothing (or close to it), and you guys jump all over ACTIVISION?
Double Fine drags their feet, misses a deadline.
Double Fine demands another 7 million to finish the game.
Activision tells them to go fuck themselves.
EA then illegally scoops up 15 million worth of work for nothing (or close to it), and you guys jump all over ACTIVISION?
@t0pc0w
Pfft, Activision payed for the construction of a game that was purely out of Schafer's mind, despite of publisher the content would have been too similar if not exactly the same.
That point made, Activision dumped the thing away as something they could not explode, they snoozed it and lost the boat.
Pfft, Activision payed for the construction of a game that was purely out of Schafer's mind, despite of publisher the content would have been too similar if not exactly the same.
That point made, Activision dumped the thing away as something they could not explode, they snoozed it and lost the boat.
@ t0pc0w
Yes. Activision cut ties to the project and Double Fine shopped it to EA, and didn't give care about until it started getting a lot of favorable coverage. Activision would be well advised to drop the case, and dump their legal fees into making yet another Guitar Hero game no one will give a crap about, or milking CoD.
Yes. Activision cut ties to the project and Double Fine shopped it to EA, and didn't give care about until it started getting a lot of favorable coverage. Activision would be well advised to drop the case, and dump their legal fees into making yet another Guitar Hero game no one will give a crap about, or milking CoD.
My impresssion was that after the merger, all of the games were let loose. You don't see them all over atari for Ghostbusters. If they sue EA, it stands to reason they would be obligated to sue Atari over improper transfer of license and such.
As long as they can push the game out by October 13th, everything will be fine. But if this goes to court this game will probably be fucked.
@Tubatic I can do that perfectly fine.
@t0pc0w You obviously haven't been following the story and are only listening to Activision's version of it.
Sierra agrees to publish Brutal Legend. Sierra finances it, which Double Fine appreciates very much. Activision buys Sierra a while after. Activision drops every single game from Sierra's publishing roster except for the Crash the Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon titles (with one or two others) and tells all the other games (including Brutal Legend, WET, and Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena) that they're on their own now. Again: Activision WILLINGLY MAKES THE DECISION THEMSELVES TO DROP BRUTAL LEGEND.
They all go off in separate directions, Double Fine hooks up with EA for the publishing rights. Activision mopes, EA goes "neener neener" in their direction a little. Activision now wants Double Fine to stop making the game, because if they can't have it, nobody can, even though - I repeat - ACTIVISION WILLINGLY DROPPED THE GAME OF THEIR OWN WILL AND ACCORD. This isn't some Duke Nukem shit where the developer was incompetent.
@t0pc0w You obviously haven't been following the story and are only listening to Activision's version of it.
Sierra agrees to publish Brutal Legend. Sierra finances it, which Double Fine appreciates very much. Activision buys Sierra a while after. Activision drops every single game from Sierra's publishing roster except for the Crash the Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon titles (with one or two others) and tells all the other games (including Brutal Legend, WET, and Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena) that they're on their own now. Again: Activision WILLINGLY MAKES THE DECISION THEMSELVES TO DROP BRUTAL LEGEND.
They all go off in separate directions, Double Fine hooks up with EA for the publishing rights. Activision mopes, EA goes "neener neener" in their direction a little. Activision now wants Double Fine to stop making the game, because if they can't have it, nobody can, even though - I repeat - ACTIVISION WILLINGLY DROPPED THE GAME OF THEIR OWN WILL AND ACCORD. This isn't some Duke Nukem shit where the developer was incompetent.
This is indeed a dick move of the colossal variety.
Are they that desperate that they have to sue a dev of a new IP, when they have much larger cash cows in their stable? embarassing.
Are they that desperate that they have to sue a dev of a new IP, when they have much larger cash cows in their stable? embarassing.
@Tubatic
The only title out of that list I'd want is Starcraft 2...
This is a huge dick move from Activision and I really don't think they're going to win this one. All indications point to Activision giving up on the title rather than giving it proper time to grow, so hopefully our justice system has some common sense (of course, this is the same justice system that like OJ go free... fuck).
God, I really just wish Brutal Legend would go the fuck away. There is way too much hoopla about everything this title has been through and the overhype its gotten since long before any of us saw gameplay is ridiculous. I personally think this game is the next Too Human in waiting, but ugh. Damnit I'm sick of hearing about Brutal Legend.
The only title out of that list I'd want is Starcraft 2...
This is a huge dick move from Activision and I really don't think they're going to win this one. All indications point to Activision giving up on the title rather than giving it proper time to grow, so hopefully our justice system has some common sense (of course, this is the same justice system that like OJ go free... fuck).
God, I really just wish Brutal Legend would go the fuck away. There is way too much hoopla about everything this title has been through and the overhype its gotten since long before any of us saw gameplay is ridiculous. I personally think this game is the next Too Human in waiting, but ugh. Damnit I'm sick of hearing about Brutal Legend.
Bah. Tim Schafer finally starts getting a chance he deserves and now this...
Activision and EA are the nessassary evils of this industry. Abusing what we need to get us what we want.
Activision and EA are the nessassary evils of this industry. Abusing what we need to get us what we want.
@t0pc0w
DJP3DRO is right but I wanna say Activision side of the story is pretty dumb too Let's see here.
Activision gives Double Fine 15 million to make a game. That's cool
Double Fine drags their feet, misses a deadline. They could have rushed the game and made some shit any idiot would buy but they have standards.
Double Fine demands another 7 million to finish the game. Again standards.
Activision tells them to go fuck themselves. I probably would to that's fair
EA then illegally scoops up 15 million worth of work for nothing (or close to it), and you guys jump all over ACTIVISION?
Because they didn't give two shits about the game until they realised maybe if they had just paid them the 7 million they could have had a fantastic game but instead they fucked it up and went all if I can't have it no one can
If someone divorces you and aborts your baby then you knock another girl up she can't then say you have to abort this one too (Bad metaphor)
DJP3DRO is right but I wanna say Activision side of the story is pretty dumb too Let's see here.
Activision gives Double Fine 15 million to make a game. That's cool
Double Fine drags their feet, misses a deadline. They could have rushed the game and made some shit any idiot would buy but they have standards.
Double Fine demands another 7 million to finish the game. Again standards.
Activision tells them to go fuck themselves. I probably would to that's fair
EA then illegally scoops up 15 million worth of work for nothing (or close to it), and you guys jump all over ACTIVISION?
Because they didn't give two shits about the game until they realised maybe if they had just paid them the 7 million they could have had a fantastic game but instead they fucked it up and went all if I can't have it no one can
If someone divorces you and aborts your baby then you knock another girl up she can't then say you have to abort this one too (Bad metaphor)
My understanding was _Vivendi_ paid for the development of the game. Activision bought Vivendi and left Brutal in limbo. They abandoned it. It would not have happened. EA tried to purchase it; Activision refused to negotiate and was read to leave it for dead. Then, some legal loophole somewhere let EA say "fuck it, let's give Double Fine money to finish their game and this says we're in the clear".
It's demonstrable that Activision abandoned the property with no intention to protect the assets (just like Ghostbusters.. which they aren't suing for surprisingly); EA will win this because they have as much money for lawyers as Activision. Activision is just trying to disrupt EA as much as possible by what can only be called corporate bullying.
It's demonstrable that Activision abandoned the property with no intention to protect the assets (just like Ghostbusters.. which they aren't suing for surprisingly); EA will win this because they have as much money for lawyers as Activision. Activision is just trying to disrupt EA as much as possible by what can only be called corporate bullying.
I'd show a picture of the Activision board, but you guys would ban me because its just a picture of a bunch of dicks and assholes.
How is Activision right? They dropped the game! When you drop the game, you lose your claim to it. By that logic, Ghost Busters should be getting pounded too!
Either way of who wins, this legal battle will be epic.
Two third party publishing monsters one which joined the light side (EA) when the other joined the dark one some time ago (Activision) with a huge army of attorneys.
A brutal legend indeed.
Two third party publishing monsters one which joined the light side (EA) when the other joined the dark one some time ago (Activision) with a huge army of attorneys.
A brutal legend indeed.
Brutal Legend Twitter update:
Re: today's bummer news...in the words of the inimitable Ms. Beyonce Knowles, "If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it".
From Joystiq:
Activision Rep: "Have you been to the booth yet?"
Xav: "Not yet. I want to check out Brutal Legend... wait sorry, that's EA. You guys used to have it."
Activision: "Yeah. Don't rub it in."
Epic Burn.
Re: today's bummer news...in the words of the inimitable Ms. Beyonce Knowles, "If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it".
From Joystiq:
Activision Rep: "Have you been to the booth yet?"
Xav: "Not yet. I want to check out Brutal Legend... wait sorry, that's EA. You guys used to have it."
Activision: "Yeah. Don't rub it in."
Epic Burn.
Double Fine should have been more responsible about meeting the deadline. But activision has no right to sue them for that. There was nothing illegal about the deal between DF and EA.
I don't know all of the background, but based on the little bit in this article, Activision doesn't seem to be in the wrong. I want to play Brutal Legend as much as the next guy, but if Activision owns the rights to the game and decides not to publish it, Double Fine doesn't automatically regain the rights to the game. Again, I don't know nearly enough about the facts, but boycotting Activision seems a bit silly.
@ouched
Activision didn't cut ties, it dropped interest. Not continuing to fund a game that they are contractually publishing is well within their rights to do so.
At best, you can call this a dick move. But they have the legal rights to do so.
You couldn't get funding from investors, not release the contractually agreed product, then get funding from different investors and expect the initial investors to be happy with your decision to use $15 million of their money to develop the project that you and different investors will reap the benefit of.
Activision didn't cut ties, it dropped interest. Not continuing to fund a game that they are contractually publishing is well within their rights to do so.
At best, you can call this a dick move. But they have the legal rights to do so.
You couldn't get funding from investors, not release the contractually agreed product, then get funding from different investors and expect the initial investors to be happy with your decision to use $15 million of their money to develop the project that you and different investors will reap the benefit of.
If their is a contract that states that Double Fine had a deadline to meet then Activision does have a case.
I understand people are pissed, hell I'm dying to play it and then we get this shit but if Activision really did pay 15 million with a deadline and then Double Fine needed 7 more and there are documents proving this then Activision has a case, its called breach of contract.
I hope nothing comes off it but if there is a case what I see happening is the game gets published and get Activision gets a chunk of the profits.
I understand people are pissed, hell I'm dying to play it and then we get this shit but if Activision really did pay 15 million with a deadline and then Double Fine needed 7 more and there are documents proving this then Activision has a case, its called breach of contract.
I hope nothing comes off it but if there is a case what I see happening is the game gets published and get Activision gets a chunk of the profits.
I was under the impression that Activision dumped Brutal Legend, citing that it wasn't a title that could be exploited as a franchise on a yearly basis (their words). Now they are suing for some of the money they stupidly lost themselves.
~rolls eyes~
~rolls eyes~
All you retards saying this is legal are only listening to Activision and nobody else. Once again, they dropped the game of their own accord. THEY WILLINGLY DROPPED THE GAME.
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