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Dear god a ban from online? Nooooooooo! That's a fate worse than death! Seriously this is the first COD game I won't even waste my bandwidth on. Its not even worth pirating.
this has been bugging me for some time know. how in the hell do people get copies of games before they come out? i wonder if its an inside job, or am i completely off. anyone with some knowledge on the subject?
In all seriousness I know of a guy who works in a warehouse that does pirate all his games though it's for Xbox.
I've reported his ass to Xbox and he got banned only to come right back again. He'll probably pirate MW3. Fucking annoying this guy gets away with it.
I've reported his ass to Xbox and he got banned only to come right back again. He'll probably pirate MW3. Fucking annoying this guy gets away with it.
lol If I worked at a warehouse and was able to steal the games and pirate them, I wouldn't load it up on the Internet like a douche, I'd just play it and laugh at everyone how I beat the game before it it out.
They won't go after me if I don't share it. They care about the ones who do share.
They won't go after me if I don't share it. They care about the ones who do share.
...... Activision would have to pay me $5000 before I would waste the bandwidth to pirate this crap. So many better games I gladly pay for that are far more deserving of my time, money and bandwidth.
Having "investigators" roll up to my door for something like this would make me laugh out loud directly into their faces for thinking you could strong arm me using anyone that isn't actually a law enforcement officer.
Piracy is mostly bad, sure, but fuck Activision, and anyone who thinks they can have a goon knock on my door based on some circumstantial evidence. You want to take me to court, be my fucking guest, but I'm sorry, you come knocking on my door demanding I give up a pirated copy of something "or else", then you better hit the bricks the second I tell you to. If you're not in law enforcement, and you don't have a warrant, then you're not going to shit on me. Take me to court and prove I did anything.
Piracy is mostly bad, sure, but fuck Activision, and anyone who thinks they can have a goon knock on my door based on some circumstantial evidence. You want to take me to court, be my fucking guest, but I'm sorry, you come knocking on my door demanding I give up a pirated copy of something "or else", then you better hit the bricks the second I tell you to. If you're not in law enforcement, and you don't have a warrant, then you're not going to shit on me. Take me to court and prove I did anything.
@hardy83
Yeah, I never really did understand why pirates not only steal their games, but then upload the games online to help enable others to also steal it. I guess pirates are just naturally benevolent by nature.
Yeah, I never really did understand why pirates not only steal their games, but then upload the games online to help enable others to also steal it. I guess pirates are just naturally benevolent by nature.
There are some companies you don't mess with just because you respect them. And then there are some companies you don't mess with because they've got a budget that's big enough that they don't have to tolerate your bullshit.
Activision is one of the latter.
Activision is one of the latter.
Yar har digitty dee, do you what you want because a pirate is free....
@onered, I'm sure they'll happily take you to court and provide ip addresses and other data as some rather solid evidence. Considering these investigators are actually lawyers.
@onered, I'm sure they'll happily take you to court and provide ip addresses and other data as some rather solid evidence. Considering these investigators are actually lawyers.
“I have a strong feeling that Bobby Kotick's got no problem cutting a person.”
How else would he get hold of the blood that sustains his youth?
How else would he get hold of the blood that sustains his youth?
I don't even wanna play this game, but I feel like pirating it just to piss Activision off. Hey, maybe Bobby can come to my house (in South America) and drink some tea with me or something.
@shadow
IP addresses and related info is rarely seen as solid evidence of anything. If Activision, and indeed the entertainment industry at large were happy to sue pirates, they would. The fact that there has been only a scant few lawsuits against individual pirates that have been successful compared to the amount that have been filed, it should be pretty clear that the law is, more often than not, on the side of the consumers in this matter. There's a reason why the entertainment industry has been up the ass of privacy invading laws the last few years, they haven't had a lot of success in court as things are now.
And its like I said, if you have a case then take them to court. Simple, someone does something that harms you, you take them to court and let the law sort it out. The reasons they're not are the same basic reasons why anyone doesn't take anyone else to court: money, and validity. Instead of gambling on your court case (which, make no mistake about it, is a gamble), you send some investigators (not lawyers, c'mon now,) to their door and scare them. It won't stem the flow of piracy in any immediate sense, obviously, but you might scare a few people out of downloading your next game.
Showing up to people's doors and leading them to believe they only have 2 options is ridiculous. It's a scare tactic on every level, and tantamount to having an investigator show up to an alleged crackhead's house and demand he throw his crack away or they'll call the police. Its all resources that could have gone to, you know, stemming the flow of crack to begin with.
IP addresses and related info is rarely seen as solid evidence of anything. If Activision, and indeed the entertainment industry at large were happy to sue pirates, they would. The fact that there has been only a scant few lawsuits against individual pirates that have been successful compared to the amount that have been filed, it should be pretty clear that the law is, more often than not, on the side of the consumers in this matter. There's a reason why the entertainment industry has been up the ass of privacy invading laws the last few years, they haven't had a lot of success in court as things are now.
And its like I said, if you have a case then take them to court. Simple, someone does something that harms you, you take them to court and let the law sort it out. The reasons they're not are the same basic reasons why anyone doesn't take anyone else to court: money, and validity. Instead of gambling on your court case (which, make no mistake about it, is a gamble), you send some investigators (not lawyers, c'mon now,) to their door and scare them. It won't stem the flow of piracy in any immediate sense, obviously, but you might scare a few people out of downloading your next game.
Showing up to people's doors and leading them to believe they only have 2 options is ridiculous. It's a scare tactic on every level, and tantamount to having an investigator show up to an alleged crackhead's house and demand he throw his crack away or they'll call the police. Its all resources that could have gone to, you know, stemming the flow of crack to begin with.
That's just sad i mean it's not like they aint all the same anyway couldn't they just go play one of it's identical predecessors?
Unless it's to fuck with activision in that case go for the gusto!
Unless it's to fuck with activision in that case go for the gusto!
If Activision wants me then they'll have to get onto my hover-ship-thingy and then past the blindly flailing Han Solo. I hope they brought some reading material cuz they're in for a long and painful digestion session.
I'm glad I'm not the only person that absolutely loathes Modern Warfare. And I grew up playing FPSs. The good ones.
It's called a pre-load :D.
I mean if someone has it on there computer un-cracked i don't really see what the problem is. Assuming that the thing doesn't actually play without a crack.
Hell i downloaded the BF3 ISO disc's when they came out. Because apparently i wasn't allowed to pre-load with my CD-key. So I was able to play when the game was unlocked. And i was able to download my game files while i was asleep. Instead of when the game launched and having to wait 3-4 hours for it to download.
Not particularly interested in MW3 at the moment, too much on my plate. But I don't see how having a bunch of 1's and 0's on your computer that don't work without a license is an issue(because that's what your paying for after all)
I mean if someone has it on there computer un-cracked i don't really see what the problem is. Assuming that the thing doesn't actually play without a crack.
Hell i downloaded the BF3 ISO disc's when they came out. Because apparently i wasn't allowed to pre-load with my CD-key. So I was able to play when the game was unlocked. And i was able to download my game files while i was asleep. Instead of when the game launched and having to wait 3-4 hours for it to download.
Not particularly interested in MW3 at the moment, too much on my plate. But I don't see how having a bunch of 1's and 0's on your computer that don't work without a license is an issue(because that's what your paying for after all)
>Complain about imaginary "lost sales" due to piracy
>Spend even more money hunting the pirates, traveling to where they live, and issuing stupid threats
>Spend even more money hunting the pirates, traveling to where they live, and issuing stupid threats
@OneRed
Didn't stop the FBI from arresting a man for distributing child pornography, when it was actually a completely different man, sitting on a boat in a marina a hundred feet away, using the first man's wireless connection to distribute it.
They came to his door and basically arrested him until they searched his computer and found no porn of any nature and decided it wasn't him. So the only evidence they had was his IP address.
Granted pirating a game and distributing child porn are two entirely different leagues of law breaking, but the point being is that they do have a case, even if you don't think they do. If they can prove your IP address downloaded that software through records that your ISP is required to give them access to, then they have enough to at least fine you for it, at least in most courts.
Didn't stop the FBI from arresting a man for distributing child pornography, when it was actually a completely different man, sitting on a boat in a marina a hundred feet away, using the first man's wireless connection to distribute it.
They came to his door and basically arrested him until they searched his computer and found no porn of any nature and decided it wasn't him. So the only evidence they had was his IP address.
Granted pirating a game and distributing child porn are two entirely different leagues of law breaking, but the point being is that they do have a case, even if you don't think they do. If they can prove your IP address downloaded that software through records that your ISP is required to give them access to, then they have enough to at least fine you for it, at least in most courts.
@RenegadePanda
You just gave an example of having no case! The man wasn't guilty! Your example even goes on to prove exactly WHY IP addresses and the like aren't particularly solid in a court of law: its not reliable. IP data and the like can provide probably cause, I'm not denying that at all, but the example you gave shows just how easily IP data can be manipulated/misconstrued, and why it isn't often used in court. Hell, remember when Sony tried to use IP data to nail George Hotz to the wall? It failed so miserably the judge in the case was reported to have gotten annoyed at how flimsy Sony's case was.
You just gave an example of having no case! The man wasn't guilty! Your example even goes on to prove exactly WHY IP addresses and the like aren't particularly solid in a court of law: its not reliable. IP data and the like can provide probably cause, I'm not denying that at all, but the example you gave shows just how easily IP data can be manipulated/misconstrued, and why it isn't often used in court. Hell, remember when Sony tried to use IP data to nail George Hotz to the wall? It failed so miserably the judge in the case was reported to have gotten annoyed at how flimsy Sony's case was.
@VitaminShoe
For one like myself who only buy\play the MW series....yes, I am excited for this release.
For one like myself who only buy\play the MW series....yes, I am excited for this release.
I love reading all the negative Call of Duty comments. You can't see 1 MW3 article on the this site without a shitload of comments hating on CoD. Funny thing is it will still sell more than any game this year. All this hate just seems to be internet talk because CoDs sales don't seem to go down considering all the hate.
@Blindfire
Theres a fine line between "respect" and "fear".
"Respect" would be the Red Cross asking me not to paint a giant red cross on my roof so people don't mistake my house for a hospital.
"Fear" would be Activision banging on my front door and threatening to sue my ass because a IP address said someone using my bandwidth supposedly illegally downloaded their game and demanding that I prove that I erased all the infringing files.
Theres a fine line between "respect" and "fear".
"Respect" would be the Red Cross asking me not to paint a giant red cross on my roof so people don't mistake my house for a hospital.
"Fear" would be Activision banging on my front door and threatening to sue my ass because a IP address said someone using my bandwidth supposedly illegally downloaded their game and demanding that I prove that I erased all the infringing files.
I'm actually so terrified that before I wasn't going to buy the new Call of Duty, but now I am going to just out of fear.
Its to late for them to do anything let alone threaten anyone, since the game is in the web and they won't do shit pirates in Europe or other countries that aren't the US. I usually don't endorse piracy, but I'll make an exception just to take that prepotent smug out of Activision's face.
I hope that this not only gets pirated to hell and back, but that the game also bombs in sales and reviews.
I hope that this not only gets pirated to hell and back, but that the game also bombs in sales and reviews.
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