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Aaron Greenberg Says: Sony is hemorrhaging at retail photo

Aaron Greenberg is such a quote box when it comes to saying abrasive flamebait that I have decided to come up with a new tag called Aaron Greenberg Says. Today, Aaron Greenberg says many things, really taking off the gloves and laying into Sony, as he likes to do so much.

"You can't underestimate that we're half the price of the PS3 at a time when consumers were looking for great value," beams Greenberg. "The PS3 was down in February two percent even with the launch of Killzone 2 -- that's months of year-over-year declines. Xbox continues to head north while the PS3 is heading south. We're gaining share.

"But what we hear from our partners is that it's not just PS3, it's also PS2 down 62 percent year over year. With that business declining, and with the PS3 business declining, it's been described to me as hemorrhaging at retail right now, and it just keeps getting worse. What we're finding in our research is that a large portion of the volume we're driving with Xbox 360 purchasers is actually PS2 owners choosing Xbox for the next generation. We're switching people from the PlayStation brand over to the Xbox brand."

Greenberg also says that if GTA: The Lost & Damned had sold at retail, it would have outsold Killzone 2, and boasted that Xbox 360 titles currently have over 130 titles rated over 80 on Metacritic, while rival platforms don't even have 100. Aaron Greenberg says so many things. He's a gift from God to blogging comment boxes everywhere.


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BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:24
BlackFreefall
With douchebag like him, who needs fanboys?
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:25
dip
PR TALK DERRRP
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:29
Drach
That's actually funny, I've seen the PS3 bar on VGChatrz.com go from 19 to million to 21.22 million units sold... just in the past few weeks.

That and well.. since the last time I pointed out such a statistic, Sony has more lucrative stock.

I'm not biting dude. Sony isn't just a software company, like you, Microsoft.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, dude.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:32
Clance
"The PS3 was down in February two percent even with the launch of Killzone 2"

Yeah, coz Killzone 2 came out right at the start of Feb, didn't it.

PS3 selling at double the price is Sony making more money than you even when selling less, Greenberg.

Also, Playstation 2? Everybody has or has had one of them by now, surely?

"Greenberg also says that if GTA: The Lost & Damned had sold at retail, it would have outsold Killzone 2"

I love his science behind this. To be honest though, GTA selling well? What a shocker.

Wow, this guy's brought the fanboy out in me!!! Whooooop!
megaStryke's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:38
megaStryke
@Drach

Please, never use VGChartz. It's an embarrassment.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:40
JACK of No Trades
The 360 has very shitty hardware so we are even.
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:42
Emrah
Well, somebody should remind him PS2 is selling more than the original Xbox. Taking on PS2, that's very lowly!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:47
Sexualchocolate
There's a BIG difference between "good value" and "cheap shit" Aaron.

Only last night i was at a mate's who has 2 errorboxes under his TV (one RROD'd after just over a year) He is sick of it and is getting a PS3 next time.

Another tight arsed friend there at the time is buying a mate's errorbox (because he can't afford a PS3, apparently), the guy he's buying it from is selling it..... to get a PS3.

The errorbox is a games console, a games console that will only last a year and isn't economically viable as an online gaming machine.

The PS3 is a top of the range HD multi-media system, plays the BEST games, the BEST movies, is built to last and provides a top notch service to those who buy it, not just to those who pay extra every year.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:48
loki d20
Some of those stats he spouts off are okay, but for the most part it's just typical jack assery statistics. Yeah, Xbox 360 has more games rated 80 and above, but what percentage of their games are rated 80 and above compared to other consoles? How many are 50 and above compared to other consoles?

Anyway, until Sony either lowers their prices or come up with some technology that really blows the 360 out of the water, the 360 will always be bigger than the PS3 in North America. We don't need lame statistics to know that.
Umjammerlami's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:49
Umjammerlami
2%!

Ah yes, forcing his diatribe down unwilling throats. fattening up the masses.

Mr Greenberg may not value you, but you will listen to his opinion
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:55
Drach
@megaStryke:
Is there another site that measures console and game sales?
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:57
JustLikeBuck
What's funny is MS's strategy is not investing in better games, it's saying "well at least we're not sony".

I suppose since the market's pretty saturated, everybody's made up their mind on which console. The problem for MS is that a lot of their consoles need replacing, and when that happens they're just leaving the back door for somebody to go get a PS3 or a Wii.

Anybody who hasn't got a limit on how many times they can get their 3600 replaced is either an extremely die hard fan, or very short-sighted.
guitarman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 09:57
guitarman
I approve of the mudslinging, and I wish every company would participate, it's awesome.

Jim, you need to find a way to work Steve Ballmer into these pics. His face is scarier than that dude's WITH the shop.

Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:13
Drach
Found one. I think I'll decide which site to use, Thanks.
masterninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:15
masterninja
Made me LMAO pointing out killzone 2 when it officially came out the last few days of february...

Also that you actually gotta bring in the PS2 to point out your argument is sad...Its an accomplishment in my book that its even still selling...
What makes It more sad Is that the xbox 1 simply was abandoned too soon and he dares to mock sony for the fact that the PS2 Is actually starting to sell less..

GTFO he should talk when the 360 is allmost 10 years old and hopefully still on shelves...untill then he should just not dare to mention this out of shame for how they used the xbox 1 like a little slut and cast her away way before its time...
Sure I was there at launch to pick up my 360 but I still cried many months after...
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:16
TorpedoTed
All this mud slinging doesnt matter, the fact remains at this POINT in time Nintendo are winning, Microsoft are second and Sony are in third place.
Doesnt matter who had a head start or what console broke, sales are sales and money to these three companies is what its all about!

MONEY
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:22
Corak
What dip said
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:35
Holyetheline
hahahahahaha He's hilarious.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:47
Discarded Couch Sandwich
My logic:

Using Metacritic as a source to back up your point = instant fail.

Passing reference to fantasy world you've just made up where a downloadable game that didn't come out at retail instantly does better than a full release, because, well, why the hell not = also instant fail.

Then again, an adult whining about sales figures is always a laugh in this industry. I like the way the header pic of him instantly made me think of a giant baby. Bit like Spirited Away.
jp007's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:50
jp007
Wow, are Sony fanboys blind to facts, or what?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=acCS8GaO7y0I&refer=news
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:51
Chronic Logic
Meanwhile the Wii has launched into outer space while the 360 and PS3 are still on earth.
Defunkled's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 10:56
Defunkled
I like how Greenberg forgets to point out that Killzone 2 came out the SECOND TO LAST DAY OF FEBRUARY. Comparing two weeks of The Lost and Damned sales to two days of Killzone 2 sales? That's cool.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 11:09
brainderailment
Damn, who would have guessed, a $20 game on sale for 2 weeks sold more units than a $60 game that was on sale for 2 days.

Intriguing.
The Gief's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 11:15
The Gief
why the fuck does anyone care what this douche has to say anyways. hes just an offical troll. the 360 is cheap and cheerful with loadsa good and shite games an it breaks all the fuckin time..im on my 3rd and the ps is dear as hell and has only about 3 or 4 games that the 360 doesnt that are worht having. but they are BOTH worth having. though fanboy flaming is prettty fun ye gaymos
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 11:24
de BLOO
the only reliable sales track is NPD.

IMO...i guess.

glad to see I can make it in the industry as a troll. :]

hope for my future.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 11:29
Black Nexus
I've learned to ignore this fool, he's comparing an add-on of an established game to the sales of a game that had only been out two days at the time.


Thats just retarded.
boots555's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 11:32
boots555
God this guys an idiot. I hate everything about him. You want a premium console you need to pay a premium price.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 12:32
Midgetsnowman
Lol. While I may be a devoted Xbox owner, even I think Aaron Greenberg is generally full of shit.

By the same token though, its fun watching sony fans react to this by screaming about how the ps3 is such a "premium" device.

Nevermind premium devices generally do not make for the biggest selling or most successful devices in any industry, Simply because they cost more for extraneous features.

This is why the wii is winning by a landslide.
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 12:36
grasslunatic
What a twat.
Zen 2nd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 12:53
Zen 2nd
@ TorpedoTed yeah but how many xboxs did Microsoft have to repair free of charge?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 13:28
pedrovay2003
And the 360 is hemorrhaging in peoples' homes. It all balances out.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 13:55
Syn
Even the Wii has all those "extraneous" features that I want, minus a better storage device of some sort.

I think it's hilarious that he describes the Xbox as a "great value". That's just fuckin funny.

And comparing it to a PS2? Completely neglecting the last decade? That might work on an infant, not someone with a lick of intelligence.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 14:02
BattyAdroit
This guy is embarrassing, regardless of which company signs his paychecks.
Drach's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2009 17:16
Drach
Despite what the Bloomberg article says http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=acCS8GaO7y0I&refer=news, Sony's market shares are still worth more than Microsoft. Even though they've taken a loss, they're still ahead (In the STOCK MARKET). This bloomberg article is misleading being that they don't give us the price in the same currency. You CAN buy Sony stock in American currency, yet the article fails to give us prices with comparable numbers. (Sony's stock ranged from $19.80-$20.50 today and MS went for $16.88-$17.65 according to Yahoo! Finance.) We're not blind to facts, honestly, some of us seek valid information to weigh against some snotty PR guy spouting utter nonsense.

Do people forget that Sony makes other things as well? Like computers, cameras, TVs, DVD players, blu-ray players, mp3 players, phones, car radios, home stereo components, and lastly movies...

I realize that were talking games here, but lest we forget that Sony isn't just interested in domination of just the videogame market... They make other things that are fairly high quality in my experience.

Syn has a valid point. How can MS compare themselves to the PS2? Didn't they stop making Xboxes a while ago? Doesn't Sony still make PlayStation 2's? Which one failed because the hard drives were worth more than the entire system? I can also laugh at the points that others have made about KZ2 being out for 2 days and L&D was out for a few weeks... What a comparison!

You heard it from the horses mouth, guys.. MS thinks you're a bunch of morons.
morbid-82-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/18/2009 13:16
morbid-82-
This is why I will never buy A 360. I bet it's a great machine and there's some exclusives that I would like to own but M$ and this cunt Aaron force me to not want to support them.
Caelum Nocte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2009 00:27
Caelum Nocte
Clance, you do realize Sony loses money on every PS3 they sell. The only reason the price is high is because they can't take a bigger hit than that which they already do.
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