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The more reviews of Halo = Average, is fine by me, but wtf is up with Arnolds mutated hermaphrodite clone?
It is not so much that it was a terrible game, more that the sheer amount of smack talked about it could not possibly live up to the hype.
Eliza Gauger, well now you know why they never advertised the actual game. Instead used plastic figures and old men in place of actually using the graphics of Halo 3.
Half-Life 2 Episode 2 is better than all of the Halo games put together and worth the $60 even without the other four games in the package. People get caught up in the hype. Bungie did what they had to do. Make Halo 2 shinier and put a 3 at the end. The franchise was to big by this point for them not to have done it this way. People wanted a shiny Halo 2 and people got a shiny Halo 2. For them they needed to change nothing because people didn't want anything changed. Except for us gamers who like games that take chances and break from conventions.
Why can't there be a Halo 3 review that neither cums nor throws up? Why can't there be a Halo 3 review without any sort of antrhopological statements that expect to change the way you look at the world? Why can't people just calm down and evaluate the game? Is anyone among us man enough to give it a 7.8?
Seems a bit Halo 3-haterish to me, but I can agree with you completely on two points:
-the lack of any of the braveheart-esque battles in single player was a huge letdown to me too
-Too much shiny stuff.
-the lack of any of the braveheart-esque battles in single player was a huge letdown to me too
-Too much shiny stuff.
Could agree with you more
I beat this game thinking part of it was missing.
I think people got the same feelings out of the matrix movies. The first one set the standarded. So when they went to make more, they put the story in so many other things (books, games, anime) that if you didnt see every last bit, just watching the last two movies was a painful experience. Most people walked out thinking wtf?
This is the same thing here. Ive never been into the Halo universe that much, thought it was to full of itself, and to many little bits of everything else to consider it "its own world." Theyve put out so many books and such, that the important back story, that should have been told in the game; ends up getting thrown into the books as foder for the masses.
So when we sit down, pop in halo 3, and its basically a storyless action driven game, with honestly, little action. The ending comes as a slap in the face. Im not upset that the ending was lame, im more upset that everyone else thinks this is gods gift to gaming.
Master Chief is an asshole in this one. For as serious as everyone else is, he remind me of a 13 yearold playing the game. Basically being like "Im bad ass L33T" Who the hell cares, if you wanna be so over the top, then be it in every aspect.
Dont get me wrong, i ove the multiplayer, least itll hold me over till CoD4 comes out. But as far as ending this serious, Im so glad its the end for now. Bungie has always seemed like a bunch of overpaid college kids giving out their overrated views on games. Owell, thank god the media coverage is over.
Ass hats
I beat this game thinking part of it was missing.
I think people got the same feelings out of the matrix movies. The first one set the standarded. So when they went to make more, they put the story in so many other things (books, games, anime) that if you didnt see every last bit, just watching the last two movies was a painful experience. Most people walked out thinking wtf?
This is the same thing here. Ive never been into the Halo universe that much, thought it was to full of itself, and to many little bits of everything else to consider it "its own world." Theyve put out so many books and such, that the important back story, that should have been told in the game; ends up getting thrown into the books as foder for the masses.
So when we sit down, pop in halo 3, and its basically a storyless action driven game, with honestly, little action. The ending comes as a slap in the face. Im not upset that the ending was lame, im more upset that everyone else thinks this is gods gift to gaming.
Master Chief is an asshole in this one. For as serious as everyone else is, he remind me of a 13 yearold playing the game. Basically being like "Im bad ass L33T" Who the hell cares, if you wanna be so over the top, then be it in every aspect.
Dont get me wrong, i ove the multiplayer, least itll hold me over till CoD4 comes out. But as far as ending this serious, Im so glad its the end for now. Bungie has always seemed like a bunch of overpaid college kids giving out their overrated views on games. Owell, thank god the media coverage is over.
Ass hats
Foshi, how does Half-Life 2 "take chances and break from convention"? Do you have like a poster of random cliches to throw in wherever on your wall?
Whenever I read a negative Halo 3 review, it reminds me of all the art students I knew in college. These were some of the most pretentious, self-absorbed assholes I've ever run into, seemingly enthralled by the sound of their own voice. Picking apart anything even remotely popular, whether it be art, music, movies, television (although most of them were "above" TV), or books. The subject of video games rarely came up, but when it did, the conversation generally revolved around - go figure - Japanese RPGs like Final Fantasy.
Now I'm not accusing you of being pretentious or self-absorbed, Eliza. But I'm not so sure you are just hating Halo 3 to hate Halo 3. After all, that does seem to be the popular thing to do on the internets these days.
Halo 3 is not perfect. But it is very far from a bad game. Bioshock was, rightfully so, fellated by every damn entertainment journalist on the planet. It also happened to be a great game with very little hype.
Halo 3, on the other hand, was the most hyped game release ever. If the game didn't live up to the hype in your eyes, then that's your fault. No one should need to explain it to you. You succumbed to the hype, and I expect you planed on hating the game before you even fired up the campaign.
And did you really expect the game to play like the diorama ads? Really? You're an adult, right?
Now I'm not accusing you of being pretentious or self-absorbed, Eliza. But I'm not so sure you are just hating Halo 3 to hate Halo 3. After all, that does seem to be the popular thing to do on the internets these days.
Halo 3 is not perfect. But it is very far from a bad game. Bioshock was, rightfully so, fellated by every damn entertainment journalist on the planet. It also happened to be a great game with very little hype.
Halo 3, on the other hand, was the most hyped game release ever. If the game didn't live up to the hype in your eyes, then that's your fault. No one should need to explain it to you. You succumbed to the hype, and I expect you planed on hating the game before you even fired up the campaign.
And did you really expect the game to play like the diorama ads? Really? You're an adult, right?
Did you get the Halo/Madden comparison from me , or is it just another example of great minds thinking alike?
For me, the whole Halo thing is just like the Tekken games, I keep on expecting Jeremy Beedle to reveal himself and explain that I've been the victim in some elaborate joke. (For those in America, Jeremy Beedle used to be a tv prankster, a bit like that Ashton Kuntstar from "Punked", only "Beedle's About" was far more vicous and cruel.
Just like when Tekken was at it's peak of popularity, I'm feeling like the man from "The Invaders", alone in a world full of Halo, Tekken loving alien imposters disguised as humans.
Hey folks, remember when Baywatch was THE most popular show in the entire world, I don't even know what that show was about, I knew it had covered up tits and beaches in it, but it made no sense on any level, it was medicocrity incarnate, not even crap enough to like on an ironic level. Well, Halo is the Baywatch of the 21st century. Oh, and Tekken also.
Just like when Tekken was at it's peak of popularity, I'm feeling like the man from "The Invaders", alone in a world full of Halo, Tekken loving alien imposters disguised as humans.
Hey folks, remember when Baywatch was THE most popular show in the entire world, I don't even know what that show was about, I knew it had covered up tits and beaches in it, but it made no sense on any level, it was medicocrity incarnate, not even crap enough to like on an ironic level. Well, Halo is the Baywatch of the 21st century. Oh, and Tekken also.
Why do people act like Halo 3 was just hyped, it has freaking 10s but doesn't compare to games released before it. Some consider its story less than its previous generations.
@JJ Rage And did you really expect the game to play like the diorama ads? Really? You're an adult, right?
I think he expect that and free blow jobs, it had 10s. It doesn't even meet Next-Gen standards with 640p.
@JJ Rage And did you really expect the game to play like the diorama ads? Really? You're an adult, right?
I think he expect that and free blow jobs, it had 10s. It doesn't even meet Next-Gen standards with 640p.
OH NOES ITS ONLY IN 640p! ALERT THE INTERNETS!
Biggest cop-out ever. Halo 3 looks fucking amazing. I think it's hilarious that people actually hold Bungie to a higher graphics standard than the rest of the entire industry.
Biggest cop-out ever. Halo 3 looks fucking amazing. I think it's hilarious that people actually hold Bungie to a higher graphics standard than the rest of the entire industry.
Eliza is epic. They should make a game about Eliza, then hype it on every fucking piece of merchandise sold anywhere, then totally fail to live up to that impossible hype.
Hardcore.
Hardcore.
@Cynical Gamer
I'm not a casual gamer and I think frats are for assholes who pop their collars and shop at Hollister.
I guess I'm just bucking the mold, eh?
I'm not a casual gamer and I think frats are for assholes who pop their collars and shop at Hollister.
I guess I'm just bucking the mold, eh?
I don't get Halo. It seems like a prettied up Goldeneye to me. Granted I was younger when I played Goldeneye so I might have some rosy glasses obstructing my views of Goldeneye, but Halo doesn't seem like that great of a game. Is it fun? Yes. But it's been done before. I liked Time Splitters better because of the ridiculous pace and characters. Also, I don't like online games outside of my PC so thats kind of a personal bias.
pretty crap review. Lindes one is still king - a good, even great game, but by no means perfect. If you like the halo series, youll like halo 3. If you dont, why did you waste your money?
And dont use the hype excuse. Everything is over hyped these days. Bioshock was too. Just because it didnt get 'mainstream' exposure (tv commercials, etc etc) doesnt mean it didnt get its fair share of hyping on websites and by fans. I expected more from bioshock. Halo 3's hype was much more insane of course... but i wasnt stupid enough to fall prey to it. The game was, to me, the best halo game - no more, no less.
I dont see why everyone compares halo to half life. Theyre far too different to make a meaningful comparison. One focuses on narrative and environment gameplay, the other focuses on combat and use of weapons and vehicles. Anyone who thinks that the guns in half life feel more 'real' than halo's is an idiot, to put it bluntly. I know well, ive played them both to death. Theyre both awesome, for different reasons.
And anyone who says that halo 3 is a shiny halo 2 is also an idiot. Why dont you give 3 a proper go? Youll see how stupid you are. Its like saying half life 2 is a shiny half life 1.
And dont use the hype excuse. Everything is over hyped these days. Bioshock was too. Just because it didnt get 'mainstream' exposure (tv commercials, etc etc) doesnt mean it didnt get its fair share of hyping on websites and by fans. I expected more from bioshock. Halo 3's hype was much more insane of course... but i wasnt stupid enough to fall prey to it. The game was, to me, the best halo game - no more, no less.
I dont see why everyone compares halo to half life. Theyre far too different to make a meaningful comparison. One focuses on narrative and environment gameplay, the other focuses on combat and use of weapons and vehicles. Anyone who thinks that the guns in half life feel more 'real' than halo's is an idiot, to put it bluntly. I know well, ive played them both to death. Theyre both awesome, for different reasons.
And anyone who says that halo 3 is a shiny halo 2 is also an idiot. Why dont you give 3 a proper go? Youll see how stupid you are. Its like saying half life 2 is a shiny half life 1.
@JJ Rage
"Halo 3 looks fucking amazing."
Funniest thing I've heard in awhile.
It's not that people hold Bungie to a higher graphical standard it's just that nearly every other current gen game on the 360 looks substantially better not to mention most a lot of games on the PS3.
You can say that it's my fault the game didn't live up to the hype, but after reading so many stellar reviews of it it was hard to believe it was anything but incredible.
"Halo 3 looks fucking amazing."
Funniest thing I've heard in awhile.
It's not that people hold Bungie to a higher graphical standard it's just that nearly every other current gen game on the 360 looks substantially better not to mention most a lot of games on the PS3.
You can say that it's my fault the game didn't live up to the hype, but after reading so many stellar reviews of it it was hard to believe it was anything but incredible.
I don't recall anyone ever claiming Halo 3 was suppose to be some sort of revolutionary pinnacle of gaming.
I don't get Halo. It seems like a prettied up Goldeneye to me. Granted I was younger when I played Goldeneye so I might have some rosy glasses obstructing my views of Goldeneye, but Halo doesn't seem like that great of a game. Is it fun? Yes. But it's been done before. I liked Time Splitters better because of the ridiculous pace and characters. Also, I don't like online games outside of my PC so thats kind of a personal bias.
Why does it seem like the entire staff of Destructoid is out to destroy teh Haloes? I'm beginning to feel some kinship with PS3 fans.
Ah, well. Complain all that you lot want. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying myself on my sub-par, derivative FPS.
Ah, well. Complain all that you lot want. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying myself on my sub-par, derivative FPS.
I thought the Halo series was crap from the beginning, just mediocre overrated crap. The reason why so many people like the series is because of it's multiplayer, or and it's a really, really shiny game. There were and are better FPS before the Halo series and even now at the third one. Half-Life was probably better than the entire Halo series let alone Half-Life 2 which totally destroys them all.
I don't hate Halo because it's popular, I hate Halo just because it's not a good series. It's just mediocre at best. It also seems to lure the most disgusting fan base possible, I mean there are a lot of Halo fans out there obsessed with talking about sucking cocks or wanting you to suck a cock. It's rather disturbing really.
I don't hate Halo because it's popular, I hate Halo just because it's not a good series. It's just mediocre at best. It also seems to lure the most disgusting fan base possible, I mean there are a lot of Halo fans out there obsessed with talking about sucking cocks or wanting you to suck a cock. It's rather disturbing really.
@ajaxender
Half-Life to Half-Life 2 = massive graphical jump, physics, gravity gun, smart and engaging character development, incredible set piece after incredible set piece with a pace that never let up
Halo 2 to Halo 3 = minor graphical update, 4 player co-op, conclusion to the story, other miscellaneous updates to the system and multiplayer
Half-Life to Half-Life 2 = massive graphical jump, physics, gravity gun, smart and engaging character development, incredible set piece after incredible set piece with a pace that never let up
Halo 2 to Halo 3 = minor graphical update, 4 player co-op, conclusion to the story, other miscellaneous updates to the system and multiplayer
@Foshi
Perhaps I'm just seeing the subtleties. Perhaps I'm caught up in the entire package, not just the visuals, but the score and the atmosphere. Every campaign level (and even some of the multiplayer levels) have more going on than just the battle the master chief is involved in. Banshees dogfighting with Hornets, entire battles happening out in space just above Earth.
I will agree that there are other games that do atmosphere better (Bioshock, Half-Life 2), but Halo 3 is still pretty damn good at it.
Perhaps I'm just seeing the subtleties. Perhaps I'm caught up in the entire package, not just the visuals, but the score and the atmosphere. Every campaign level (and even some of the multiplayer levels) have more going on than just the battle the master chief is involved in. Banshees dogfighting with Hornets, entire battles happening out in space just above Earth.
I will agree that there are other games that do atmosphere better (Bioshock, Half-Life 2), but Halo 3 is still pretty damn good at it.
"I don't recall anyone ever claiming Halo 3 was suppose to be some sort of revolutionary pinnacle of gaming."
Not around much huh?
I still say, to this day, Halo 1 was and still is one of the best console multiplayer games.
Not around much huh?
I still say, to this day, Halo 1 was and still is one of the best console multiplayer games.
JJ, some people just can't get it out of their head that Halo 3's imperfection does not make it a bad game. So what if some of the reviews were inflated and it doesn't deserve a 10! It's not Bungie's fault it got 10s it didn't deserve! It's still a great game. NOTHING could have "lived up" to the media attention that Halo 3 got. Get that little shallow social-minded "hmmm what will be a hip responce to this on an online forum?" bug out of your head and just play and enjoy the above average game that it is!
Eliza.
I didn't hear any reviews call the game perfect. You must have just looked at the little numbers and not understood that the 1-10 system has inherent flaws.
You are not a lunatic for seeing things in halo that are sub-par.
You are however sorely lacking in an objective viewpoint.
If you are going to equate playing a game with performing oral sex on the developer (that makes most of us prostitutes), then you aren't being critical. You are merely falling for the misconception that one's own taste and preference are more sophisticated than another's.
I doubt you can entertain this notion though, since it was not your own.
I didn't hear any reviews call the game perfect. You must have just looked at the little numbers and not understood that the 1-10 system has inherent flaws.
You are not a lunatic for seeing things in halo that are sub-par.
You are however sorely lacking in an objective viewpoint.
If you are going to equate playing a game with performing oral sex on the developer (that makes most of us prostitutes), then you aren't being critical. You are merely falling for the misconception that one's own taste and preference are more sophisticated than another's.
I doubt you can entertain this notion though, since it was not your own.
@JJ Rage
I did like the epic battles taking place in the back ground and the fact that more was going on than just what Master Chief was going through. For me at least I just wanted a return to the original Halo. I loved Halo: CE for all that it was, but Halo 2 ruined it for me in the little things. No health packs, floaty jump, no fall damage, the unfocused story, and the modification of and absence of weapons from the first game just made it feel off to me. It was like it was trying to be and Unreal or Quake. I wanted Halo 3 to go back and look at the original and see what made that game so great.
Anyway, if you haven't picked up The Orange Box yet do so immediately and play Episode 2 and compare that to H3.
I did like the epic battles taking place in the back ground and the fact that more was going on than just what Master Chief was going through. For me at least I just wanted a return to the original Halo. I loved Halo: CE for all that it was, but Halo 2 ruined it for me in the little things. No health packs, floaty jump, no fall damage, the unfocused story, and the modification of and absence of weapons from the first game just made it feel off to me. It was like it was trying to be and Unreal or Quake. I wanted Halo 3 to go back and look at the original and see what made that game so great.
Anyway, if you haven't picked up The Orange Box yet do so immediately and play Episode 2 and compare that to H3.
Halo 3 is a good game for people without a gaming PC but it can't compare to modern PC FPS, which is why I think most Halo fans don't play PC FPS.
I'm not gonna debate all the people who think halo is a gift from god sent to lead us all to the promise land, but it's nice to see a couple more people who don't think Halo 3 is a flawless benevolent work of art.
I can provide one person who agrees with you for sure, yahtzee croshaw has a nearly identical view on it except faster and with a british accent.
check it out
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3
I can provide one person who agrees with you for sure, yahtzee croshaw has a nearly identical view on it except faster and with a british accent.
check it out
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3
OK -- here's the shit. Halo already came out a while ago. The only thing I want to hear out of people's mouths from now on is new news on it (i.e.Download content and updates).
STFUAJPG. The game came out, a lot of people like it and think you're wrong and a lot of other kids hate it and haven't played it. You know, for me, it's fine if you don't like it. To each his own. Some people don't appreciate all the small things that were put into it to make it as solid as it is. It has the best control I've played in an FPS (for a console). Bioshock and even Call of Duty's controls didn't give you that satisfaction of killing something. Especially Bioshock. For a FPS, it sort of sucked (everything else was fucking incredible).
-BANG-BANG- Ah godamnit! -BANG-BANG- I just shot four rounds!? -BANG-BANG-Fucking die!
Anyways. I don't understand why this is up on the front page. It's completely worthless. If I wanted to fine another Halo hater blog, I'd go through the forums and c-blogs. Really, this wasn't necessary. I already had the official Destructoid review and that was fine.
STFUAJPG. The game came out, a lot of people like it and think you're wrong and a lot of other kids hate it and haven't played it. You know, for me, it's fine if you don't like it. To each his own. Some people don't appreciate all the small things that were put into it to make it as solid as it is. It has the best control I've played in an FPS (for a console). Bioshock and even Call of Duty's controls didn't give you that satisfaction of killing something. Especially Bioshock. For a FPS, it sort of sucked (everything else was fucking incredible).
-BANG-BANG- Ah godamnit! -BANG-BANG- I just shot four rounds!? -BANG-BANG-Fucking die!
Anyways. I don't understand why this is up on the front page. It's completely worthless. If I wanted to fine another Halo hater blog, I'd go through the forums and c-blogs. Really, this wasn't necessary. I already had the official Destructoid review and that was fine.
P.S.
Gears of War --worst multiplayer and story EVAR!
OK, they weren't the worst ever, but they were anything but great. Common, guys.
Gears of War --worst multiplayer and story EVAR!
OK, they weren't the worst ever, but they were anything but great. Common, guys.
@Zoex
Halo 1 was and still is one of the best console first-person shooters around. Halo 2's campaign was a disappointment, but Halo 3's campaign is marvelous. I haven't heard anyone tout Halo 3 as the "best game evar!1!11!!", but then again, I tend not to surround myself with those kinds of people.
Also Eliza, you failed to mention to even mention the multiplayer, or the Forge, or the theater mode, or Campaign Scoring, or any of the other features that truly make Halo 3 a great game.
Being gamers does not mean we need to stoop to the same pretenious stereotypes as fans of other art mediums do. The game is fun. That's what games are for right?
If every game had the passive narrative of a Bioshock, or the art style of an Okami or Psychonauts, or the original gameplay seen in indigo Prohpecy or Katamari Damaci, then those games would no longer be held in such high regard.
If anything, we need the traditional, and yes sometimes mindless fun of games like Halo to make the aforementioned games that much more special.
Halo 1 was and still is one of the best console first-person shooters around. Halo 2's campaign was a disappointment, but Halo 3's campaign is marvelous. I haven't heard anyone tout Halo 3 as the "best game evar!1!11!!", but then again, I tend not to surround myself with those kinds of people.
Also Eliza, you failed to mention to even mention the multiplayer, or the Forge, or the theater mode, or Campaign Scoring, or any of the other features that truly make Halo 3 a great game.
Being gamers does not mean we need to stoop to the same pretenious stereotypes as fans of other art mediums do. The game is fun. That's what games are for right?
If every game had the passive narrative of a Bioshock, or the art style of an Okami or Psychonauts, or the original gameplay seen in indigo Prohpecy or Katamari Damaci, then those games would no longer be held in such high regard.
If anything, we need the traditional, and yes sometimes mindless fun of games like Halo to make the aforementioned games that much more special.
Meh, her points were all pretty valid. You could tell that the campaign was pretty much just an afterthought to the multiplayer aspect. That is pretty much all most people wanted out of the game anyway. The campaign, although it did have some pretty exciting moments, was not as near as epic as it should have been. IMO, Bungie could have done a lot better considering that it was the final game in the Halo series. The multiplayer is solid and you can tell that is where most of their time was probably spent.
oh no Azereki, they still have Halo Wars no?
admittedly it's the last in the master chief arc though
admittedly it's the last in the master chief arc though
This review reminds me of those kids that bash pop-punk because it isn't super artsie like their experimental indie bullshit. It's fun, man. Sometimes you don't need to have your music talking about poverty and Politics all the time. Just something you can dance around to.
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