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A plea to end the war. No, not that one. photo

Fanboys: they walk amongst us. They're in our schools. At the workplace. Even at your neighborhood grocery. In fact, odds are that someone you know might be a fanboy -- a friend or family member. They are amongst you! Panic! Suspicion! Neighbors spying upon neighbors! Secret meetings in undisclosed locations! Dogs and cats, living together!

If you haven't already guessed, I think both sides of the fence are acting a bit silly -- the die-hard lovers and the die-hard haters, all of you. Well, not you, obviously -- you're Destructoid readers! You're level-headed and of even judgment, right? Right.

So, the Washington Post's Mike Musgrove wrote a piece looking deep into the hearts and minds of two men -- one who adores Sony and another who hates 'em. Say it loud and proud, gentlemen:

Soto is about as die-hard as they come. He sold his Xbox 360 to pay for a PlayStation 3 back in November. He also has a PlayStation Portable, a Sony laptop, a Sony handheld computer and two Sony cameras. His car stereo system is all Sony, as is the home theater system that plugs into one of the four Sony televisions in his Potomac townhouse. I met Soto in November, when I was writing about the craziness surrounding the launch of the PS3. He was camped out at the head of a line at Best Buy in Rockville, waiting for the new game console to go on sale. When I asked what he was thinking, spending his time out in the cold and rain to get the $600 device, his answer boiled down to this: "It's Sony."

 And his counterpart?

Day 91 was when Fleisher's PlayStation 2 died -- one day after the warranty expired. The company told him it would cost $150 and take four to six months to repair the device. Annoyed, Fleisher passed on the company's offer and sold the unit. This was the beginning of what he calls the "Sony, you're on life support and I don't need you" phase of his relationship with the company. Years later, when his four-year-old Xbox started failing him, he placed a call to Microsoft. Two days later, a new unit landed on his doorstep -- even though the old system's warranty had long since expired. This sent him into the "Sony, you're dead to me" phase. He has avoided the company's products ever since.

As per the usual run of things for issues like this one, you're probably expecting me to side with one or the other, maybe crap in Sony's cereal or somesuch, yeah? Wrong! Hit the jump so I can explain to you why these blokes are both stupid.

Though one could hardly infer from the body of this article that these lads are the archetypal fanboys fanning the flames of the console war, it's their reasoning to which I object -- these disturbingly common modes of thinking that have us all embroiled in this worldwide pissing contest to begin with. Let me 'splain. 

The next-gen launch of late last year has me a little exhausted. No, wait -- very exhausted. So much so that I dread going into a GameStop just on the notion that I might encounter a cadre of squabbling idiots who are too busy arguing over which console is better to realize that I've got a copy of Devil May Cry 3 to buy and they're holding up the line with their vapid bullshittery. This is an argument that has been waged time and time again -- graphics versus gameplay, tradition versus innovation, the list goes on -- so let's forget about that for now and instead focus on the human side of things. You and me.

What's the reasoning that works into a decision to stick by a developer or hardware company 'til the bitter end? That's not a rhetorical question -- I'm genuinely curious, and I honestly don't know. Drawing from some personal experience and a relatively limited understanding of multi-billion dollar business, it seems as though we don't owe any of the companies that some of us fight so hard to defend the loyalty we've afforded them. To repeat a statement I've heard uttered by some of the more rational corners of the Internet, these corporations -- Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft -- they're corporations. They're businesses, they have obligations to their shareholders, and they don't care about you any farther than you can pay them.

Does that make 'em evil? Jesus, no. That makes them corporations. A preoccupation with your feelings steers too much attention away from the quest for profit

To those of you who, like Soto, angrily declare that every dollar destined for consumer electronics will land squarely in the pockets of one developer over all others, please understand that I don't really think you're dumb -- you're just not a smart consumer, maybe misinformed. There's nothing wrong with that, and you're certainly not in the minority. Take a moment to consider the following mantra: what does it do, and how well does it do it? If you ask yourself why you've chosen a particular piece of hardware and your answer to that question isn't "Well, it has a thousand bajillion gigahertz and a flux capacitor and ninety-four gigafloptuplets" but rather "It's Sony", as was Soto's, you're wasting your time on money on shit that might not do the job as well as something else potentially could.

Fleisher's no different, he's just the other side of the coin. Having a bad experience with a company -- or, in this case, the company's ostensibly outsourced technical support call center -- shouldn't turn you away from their entire inventory, and ignoring what could quite possibly be the best bang for your buck because of an old grudge is just as silly as, say, swearing fealty to some other brand. Sony makes a hell of a product, and while I'd sooner cut off my own balls than shell out two rent payments' worth of cash for their newest system right now, that doesn't make their high-end stereo components suck. Why would it? My distaste for high-priced consoles doesn't magically bleed into their other product lines.

I don't care what reasons you have to hate whatever company you hate, nor am I concerned with what long-ago romance spurred you into carrying a torch Microsoft. Nobody's forcing you to buy one over the other, and nobody's keeping you from playing your system of choice. I'm all for praising these companies for what they do right, but when you begin taking criticism for them instead of participating in a rational discussion, there's another word for that -- oh, what was it? Right. F*cking lunacy.

If I called you stupid and said that everything you do was crap, you think Nintendo's going to be right there to tell me otherwise? Then why offer them the same loyalty?

Let's remember what we're here for, people: we play games, not systems. The system that you play on will never be as important as the games you play on them, and if the games are fun, why bother trying to eviscerate someone who disagrees? You still get to play the game, after all, no matter what anybody says. There's nothing wrong with preferring one console over another, and that goes for everyone -- even the Nintendo fan whose face you want to beat to a bloody pulp at this very moment because he likes his Wii. Shut up and go play some bloody games already.

In Annie Hall, Woody Allen said, "I can't enjoy anything unless everybody is. If one guy is starving someplace, that puts a crimp in my evening." If that sounds as ridiculous to you as it's meant to, don't forget to ask yourself why.


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Jaded Alyx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:12
Jaded Alyx
If Soto was such a Sony-fanboy, what was he doing with a 360 to begin with?

Oh, and I've always owned Nintendo systems because I like Nintendo's games. If Nintendo ever did stop making hardware (yeh right) and started to develop for Sony or Microsoft, then I'd buy whichever system they supported. That doesn't mean I don't like non-Nintendo games of course, it's just that a Nintendo console/handheld is the only place to play Nintendo games.

So yeah..I like Nintendo. And PCs. And maybe XBOX. Maybe.

Half-Life FTW!
Husky Hog's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:13
Husky Hog
Well I think it's important you own both to insult either - but he's af anboy so the fact that he has a 360 doesn't make much sence

lol "maybe XBOX... maybe"

casual gamer :P
Jaded Alyx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:17
Jaded Alyx
Hi, me again.

I forgot to say, can't we all just get along? It really is about the games. It's true, I hate Sony with a passion, but then, I always have. But um...I've said too much.
Southpwnd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:27
Southpwnd
i think system wars is for idiots, idiots trying to justify their purchase when they run out of games to play.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:31
Niero
The console wars are good for business though. You can't buy a 10 year old kid lobbying in a school for your console, or a 35 year old IT guy lobbying on your lunch break on why his consumer electronics purchase is better than yours.
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:33
Cruds
I hate nobody but buying 3 consoles is a bit to much for me and since x360 and PS3 are somewhat similar, one of the two is not gonna make it, dunno which one, right now I'm leaning more to the xbox but I wished there library was more diverse and thats never been a problem with Sony. In a few year I've figured it out.

Really think that Soto's love for Sony is kinda pathetic. The only people over here that have so much Sony in there house are the people that work there and thats because they got a big discount store.
Jaded Alyx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:33
Jaded Alyx
Southpwnd, I agree. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I was primarily a PC gamer from 1995 to early 2005(but I always kept an eye on the consoles), but now that I'm firmly re-entrenched in console land, I'm amazed at the level of fanboyism that goes on.

Precisely the reason why I stopped reading Joystiq.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:36
Vigor
Awesome article Aaron.. And i gotta agree with Niero it really is good for buisness. And that picture is fucking awesome! haha.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:41
Eschatos
Heres a link for another great article describing the fanboy insanity. Personally, I don't really care about system wars at all. I'm a PC gamer through and through; why, because the controls are better and I like the games; not because I hate Sony or love Dell a bit too much. The only place I run close to fanboyism is with game companies, and not much with them. I describe myself as a fan of Bethesda, because their latest game; Oblivion, was totally freakin' awesome. Oblivion is the only Bethesda game I have ever played more than a few hours of but I still consider myself a fan. On the other hand; being a fan of Bethesda does not mean I have to totally hate all other RPG's (Dark Messiah, Neverwinter Nights 2, etc. I think people need to find the right balance; if you like a system, then feel free to express your love but don't go crazy. If you have a bad experience with a system, then you don't have to hate Sony, or Microsoft, or Nintendo.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:41
Eschatos
Oops, forgot the link...

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/fanboy.html
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:45
Cruds
Yeah in the end its all about the games and the console, PC, whatever is just a tool to run them. And let's face it most consoles are just ugly pieces of plastic.
hoi1ma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:47
hoi1ma
why is he lying, microsoft dont provide service for free after warranty. not for me, omg such a liar.
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:48
Chris Taran
Meh, I love system wars and debates. I find it all very interesting and entertaining. I don't understand peoples aversion to them.

Also, why exactly is it stupid for someone who's been burned by a company to want to avoid them in the future? When you touch the stove as a child and it burns you, if your at all intelligent, you don't touch it again. If a company fucks you over once, why go back to them so they can do it again? Same thing applies to restaurants. If you go somewhere and their food sucks or you get sick from it, how likely are you to be a repeat customer? Not likely at all.

So, really "Day 91" is quite warranted in his aversion to Sony. Then again most people are too, but I'm not going to get into the whole rootkit, overpriced consoles, contributing towards putting consumers through yet another media format war, and just about every other Sony decision again. And while I'm no fan as Sony as a company, that doesn't stop me form loving my PS2.

But, let's go back to the whole people rooting for a console/company thing. It makes just as little sense to root for a particular football, baseball, sports team as it does for a company by your logic Aaron. The Yankee's don't care about you, the Giants don't care weather you live or die, you get the picture, yet it's okay to be a fan of one of these teams?

People like and root for Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft because maybe games that are found on those particular systems tend to be the type of games those people like. All hatred and love stems form something rational, they just get blown up and exaggerated over time.

And yes, these company's focus may be their stock holders, but in order to keep these stock holders happy, these company's need to be profitable, and in order to be profitable these company's need to make consumers happy so that they'll buy their products. So, while the motive of these company's may not be that of direct concern for the consumer, it sure as hell ends up being so anyway or they won't be in business very long. So, it's pretty short sited to say company's don't care about you at all. They need you to survive, so they better care.
SP420's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:50
SP420
As pointless as these wars are and as how much these corporations laugh at us all for lapping up their products and forming loyalties and shit...well, it's capitalism. And it's never going to change...
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:50
Chris Taran
Oh, and one last thing, blind love or hatred for any company or product is still retarded. If you're going to love or hate something, make sure you have a rational reason for doing so.
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 19:58
Aaron Linde
Chris, I'm all for being a fan of a system. Hell, I'm probably one of the biggest Nintendo fans on staff here at Dtoid. It's taking it personally -- somehow getting really, really upset when someone feels differently than you do -- that blows my mind.
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 20:05
Chris Taran
I can totally agree and understand with that point Aaron. The overall tone of the article is not lost on me and I do agree with you for the most part, I was just nit picking some of the points and just going off on my own little rant.
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 20:06
Cruds
Hell, I'm probably one of the biggest Nintendo fans on staff here at Dtoid.

From listening to that podcast posted earlier, I thought Ron was.
Grimspoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 20:18
Grimspoon
<--- Videogame fanboy 4 life!
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 20:28
Aaron Linde
Cruds, wha? Greybush doesn't play games, you know that.
Twiggy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 20:35
Twiggy
@hoi1ma: Just because microsoft's policy is not to give service after warranty doesn't make the story invalid, or even false. Speaking as a former customer service rep, both on the phone and retail, a lot of times the rules as stated don't directly apply. Certainly his case is weird, but it's how often the rules can be bent and what the corporate policy, as well as the culture which creates that policy, consists of and is based on, which determines whether or not a company has a 'friendly' or 'godfuckingawful' reputation. I've had both sides of the coin with M$oft, since it's such a huge freakin' company, and it's important to keep an eye on what the prevailing culture is in these megacorps. If their policy is applied more often in a screw-you rather than in a we-value-your-custom fashion, the company is more likely to screw you over in future, and should be avoided. It's largely about personal experience but it does shape whether you shope there again or not.
That said, those considerations are just about being a smart consumer. I spend the same amount of energy worrying about these corporate shenanigans as I did about which brand of toilet to buy earlier today. While I've been a Nintendo fan for life and I enjoy games on different consoles and platforms to different degrees, in the end games are stuff you buy and you should buy it with the same eye to quality and support as anything else.
Ballistic90's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 21:13
Ballistic90
Personally, I've never liked Sony. At first, when I started paying attention to Sony (during the Playstation days), I was interested in a lot of games they had, and I was angry that the second hand N64 I had never seemed to have any decent RPGs for it, or many games coming out in general. My brother eventually bought one, and we played RPGs on it for a good long while. We still played N64 once in a while, mostly to play Legend of Zelda or Super Smash Brothers (or in more my case, Body Harvest), but his Playstation saw much more use.

Now, I liked Nintendo because of the games they made. I never liked Sony like I did Nintendo, because generally Sony doesn't make games. They make consoles, and they publish games or buy out the companies that make them and try to absorb them. Even still, the games that came from those developers never really appealed to me. When the PS2 came out, I couldn't afford it. I didn't really want it either, since nothing really looked good for a while. I had a Gamecube and I had a lot of games I enjoyed (another point I'd like to make, I never did like everything Nintendo made. I HATED Mario Sunshine. I could never put my finger on why, but I just couldn't stand it. Wind Waker was also dissapointing in some ways, while still good.). Once again, my brother bought a PS2, and I contributed by buying GTA:VC and a few other games.

While I would tend to buy games for my Gamecube if they were multi-console, and I considered the Gamecube to be my primary console, there were some games for the PS2 I would NOT have wanted to go without. Transformers: Armada (I'm a huge Transformers fan, so sue me), Front Mission 4, Disgaea, Katamari Damacy, and a bunch of others I can't even recall the names of, these games were what made the console worth having. FFXII, probably, but I haven't picked it up.

Now I have a Wii. Will I get a PS3? Probably not. My brother won't either. Why? Because of Sony's decisions, and because the developer support seems to be dropping away because of those decisions. It's really the games that you get a console for. Who cares how powerful it is if it doesn't play games? It's not like a computer where you can use it as a serious business tool. It's a GAME CONSOLE. My brother has a problem in fighting the urge to buy new things. He's boughten a PSP THREE TIMES. The first time was around launch, which he sold after not having much to play on it. He got it again when Liberty City Stories came out. He sold that because there was nothing else he liked on it. Then, halfway through last year, he bought it again. This time, for Breath of Fire 3, his favourite game of all time. And now, NOW he wants to sell it again. I don't have the same urge for electronics. I want to see something I'm going to like before I invest in something like that. I never saw it in the PSP, and I highly doubt I'll see it in the PS3 with how things have turned out so far.

As for the Xbox, my reason was simply that all the games I wanted to play on it (except perhaps... 3 games) were available on the PC. I have a good laptop, so in the end, I didn't really need an Xbox. I did get frustrated with Microsoft, but the Xbox 360 looks like it has more to offer me than the original Xbox did. Still, it's all relative. I probably didn't give the Xbox enough of a chance. Either way, I know I was being unfair to the console, but I never felt like I was missing out. Sony's PS and PS2 was a different story. Now... Sony and Microsoft just need to justify their console prices to me. And I just don't see Sony doing it this time,
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 21:14
Cruds
Aaron: No I don't. Than who was on that Podcast together with Sheir and Fronz and talking about Nintendo in a Summa kind of way. Didn't think much about it, just found it funny that there two guys at Destructiod that share exact the same vision when it comes to gaming. While I always considered Summa's view somewhat unique.
Milofo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 21:44
Milofo
Why can't we be friends
Why can't we be friends...

Look up the song on your own, I'm too lazy right now.
Jecrell's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:01
Jecrell
Can't we all just get alo-- err, I mean -- hate Sony?
Le Guru's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:05
Le Guru
Ishaan is easily the biggest Nintendo fanboy at Destructoid. Seriously, the first time I saw him post I thought you guys just brought him on to act as a counterpoint to Summa.
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:11
Diverse
you used the word bloke. so i can't take anything yous ay seriously. fuck you
Ballistic90's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:13
Ballistic90
....So Diverse, you're a word fanboy? Or just prejudice?
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:14
CaffeinePowered
I like these debates as long as they are kept sensible, its one thing to be a nonsensical fanboy and another to like the camp you decided to stick with and use actual facts to attempt to support your points.

These are like sports teams for gamers, its the same as saying why do you like the Seahawks or Cowboys (which I happen to be watching atm), why would you dislike the other team?

Do you say 'they're both football teams and only a true football fan would love them both'?

After all sports teams are just CORPORATIONS out to make money just like the console gaming companies.

Why should you say the same thing about these console fights, provided they don't degenerate into childish flaming, I think they are good. Theres nothing wrong with rooting for your team.

If you don't like a certain company, maybe Sony or MS, or the big N, for whatever reason, be it a bad experience, you don't like the games, or pure spite.

Saying that only a true gamer is one who likes all platforms is like saying only a true sports fan loves all teams. We may not mind playing games on all platforms but we're all going to have favorite consoles and ones we either are impartial to, or hate.
phinehas's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:21
phinehas
Eschatos, that article you linked to is garbage. The guy has some interesting points, but most of his arguments fell through now that we see how Nintendo's doing things.

Anyway, fanbois suck we can all agree, but there's a little bit of one in each of us. So we all suck.
Le Guru's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:22
Le Guru
I think when it starts being fanboyism is when you start pretending to like stuff on your console of choice even if you don't actually like it, or say you don't like it if it's not on your console of choice even if you do. So let's say you like Blizzard because they're awesome, right? Since as we all know Blizzard never ever ever makes mistakes that's okay! It's easy to be a Blizzard fanboy! But what if Blizzard made a mistake, like charging $349 for its next iteration of Warcraft? Perhaps people who used to like Blizzard wouldn't like it so much then, no matter how stellar that iteration was! The people who still did, even though they knew in their heart of hearts that it was a damn stupid idea, would then be Blizzard fanboys and it would be BAD.

/Nintard

Seriously though. Blizzard: thumbs up!
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:24
Aaron Linde
I didn't say that "true gamers" love all consoles. I said that people who hate consoles for virtually no reason other than the fact that they're not their console of choice are stupid, and there's virtually no rational excuse for behaving like that.

iRaf 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:42
iRaf
i went to my toys 'r' us today and they had like 25 ps3s in stock, so i was about to buy 1, thinking they just got them in.Then i went to eb games and i also asked if they had them, the man said yes, we cant get rid of them, and your the first person to ask today. that got me thinking about buying a ps3 at this moment.
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 22:55
CaffeinePowered
@Aaron

Yea I agree with that, I said irrational hated is stupid, Im just relating a general point Ive heard over and over here and thats 'A true gamer loves all platforms' which I sorta don't agree with.

But I do think that you can dislike another console 'just because', just don't be a ranting fanboy like some of the idiots that you see in joystiq or digg comments. Make valid points or at least seat your opinion on some basis.

In some ways I think the conflict is good for the industry and good for gaming, it doesn't totally divide us, we can always come together on things like hating Jack Thompson :)
bassbeast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 23:06
bassbeast
I think fanboyism is amusing to watch froma distance. The issue isn't necessarily that there are fanboys - goodness knows that there have been X vs. Y fanatics well before gaming came about. The issue for me is when it infects "journalism."

The problem with gaming is it hits many fronts simultaneously. It is technology, design, "art" (however you want to define it) and interface all rolled into one. There is a fledgling "journalism" movement out there, but the problem is, for the most part, gaming journalists end up being regurgitators of press releases. There are a number of journos I respect, though they tend to be few and very far between. Blogs do stradle the line between the two, of course, but I always felt that if you were being paid to work with games, it was your duty to be as unbiased as possible. This is why there are problems with sites like Joystiq. Even D'toid isn't immune *coughcoughcough* but it's definitely better than most. Nex and Niero, you two are great examples of top-notch bloggers, in that you hate everyone equally. If only people who worked inthe real world treated gaming like you two.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 23:33
tazarthayoot
Excellent article Aaron.

I work in retail and it's interesting to talk to people when they come near the game department, because in the store I work in, it's always someone who is a diehard to either one of the big three. My favorite part of retail are those said people who are willing to waste their day and interrupt you and another person when they're discussing a system they don't like, just to give their two cents as to why "xbox suxxorz." Sometimes I think they come to game stores just to get on their soap box sometimes.

I used to play that whole sides game but it got really old, really fast. While I may not want a PS3 right now, I know a five months, six months, a year down the line I probably will, but until that time I'm not gonna waste time bitching about why Sony sucks because they blah blah blah blah. I'm just gonna go home and play Gears until that sweet Ps3 app comes out and I waste nearly 1/3 of a months paycheck on the system.

By the way, your rent is 300 bucks a month? Where do you live, because thats hella cheap compared to the amount in rent I pay per month for my dilapadated shack I call my home.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2007 23:34
tazarthayoot
And I realized I used sometimes twice in the same sentence. Thats why I r not no game article reporter writer.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 00:04
Eschatos
To Phinehas:

Your point is true, it has been a while since that article was written. Still, it does have some interesting points and ideas. Heres another article from the same guy that I think you'll agree is pretty awesome.
-http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 00:34
Aaron Linde
I pay half of the rent for a 2 bedroom apartment in Bellingham, WA. You think that's nuts, though? Back home (Spokane, eastern Washington) I rented a place for $390 a month, 2 bedroom.

God, what a low-income paradise that was. The town is shit, though. But still.
falsoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 05:25
falsoman
Well, i'm a nintendo fan, and i like the playstation library, but i've never liked playstation consoles build quality for personal and friends experience... so i don't buy playstation. Thankfully you can emulate the games. So you pop a disk and play PS1 games as nothing... and soon we will emulate PS2 games with native speed, so i'm gonna be late, but i'm gonna be there =)

I don't really care much for X-box, so that's a non issue for now. And i really don't like sony home theathers, but i like a lot their TVs. PS3 is just way too expensive in mexico (1200 USD), and for the reasons above i won't buy it just yet.

So for now... my money goes to the DS, GC oldies and some wii when the games get there.
Dot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 05:38
Dot
I think I am something of an anti-fanboy here. I suffer from blind hate towards all the console manufacturers for the market system they adopted, in which the consumer is unable to "vote with money" on the system's flaws and advantages. If you dislike something about a PC component, you simply can buy one from a different manufacturer, and it does not affect your ability to play games on the platform in any way. Console selection is just about brand loyalty and exclusivity of titles. That doesn't stop me from playing console games of course, but every time I think of how the customers and myself in particular have about zero say on what they want in their console, it makes me want to throw my X360 out of the window-and that is why the PC will remain my preferred platform...likely forever :P
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 07:19
thisissami
hmm... just my own input on here... my first videogame console was a PlayStation, and I had a ton of fun with that... there were a lot of games on the PS2 that I wanted, so I upgraded to that... i don't like FPS's at all, or third person shooters that are basically the same as FPS's (AKA gears of war or metal gear solid), so i doubt i'm going to get a 360, cuz shooters are about the only good games that i can see on that system, and i really don't enjoy them.. the PS3 however i'm probably gonna eventually get after a price drop because of the games on that system... Final Fantasy XIII and versus XIII, the Ratchet and Clank PS3 game, MotorStorm, maybe Fatal Inertia, possibly a Kingdom Hearts III game (if it comes out on the PS3, which i personally think it will), etc.

I only buy one or two games a year, and it seems that the PS3 satisfies my needs more than any other console.. i'm probably gonna get a wii as well because oh boy do i wanna play WarioWare!!!! but if it's just wario ware that turns me on (figuratively speaking), then i'm probably gonna just steal it from my friend for a week and then give it back to him.

as far as microsoft goes, i've got nothing against the 360, and if enough non-shooters that i want end up on it (or if the Final Fantasies lose their exclusivity) i may just end up getting one! as far as windows goes, however, i'm done with that! I switched to Mac OS X this year, and boy does it rock to have a computer that doesn't freeze, not respond, or do anything stupid at all! no viruses, no nothing! no glitches at all!!! but yeah.... with a PS3 there's linux... that's a really compelling reason to get one!!!

and personally i think that at MacWorld tomorrow Steve Jobs is going to announce that it's possible to install Leopard on the PS3... if that does happen then i'm definitely getting one! :D
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 13:13
Mxyzptlk
That Fanboy Intervention article is possibly the worst thing David Wong has ever written. His Inside the Monkeysphere story on the other hand is brilliant.
smd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2007 16:15
smd
I think it's just human nature to be a "fan" of the console you've chosen to buy (unless you can afford > 1) because you want to justify your decision and not feel like you've wasnted all that money. I mean, I'm a Nintendo fan because I chose to buy their consoles and also like their games (ok, the last system I bought was a SNES, but whatever) - but that's not going to stop me from playing another system. Hell, if I had a PS3 given to me I'd take it, but I'd rather have a Wii given to me. I do agree that Nintendo has made some dumb choices (starting from the time of the N64) but since I still don't see myself having >1 console, I'll just stick with Nintendo's, and play (most of) the Sony/Microsoft exclusive games on my PC.
BlackbeardonGuitar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/08/2007 02:19
BlackbeardonGuitar
Your treatise wasn't as smart as It seems you think it is. For example, I bought an Ipod, it lasted a year and a half, and I've had bad experiences with other apple products. By your estimation I should still want to purchase apple products if I think they will work regardless of my previous history. The guy who doesnt dig sony is the most rational "Fanboy" I've ever heard of. He got fucked and now he doesnt pay for bad products/support. This is the exact theory that the comapanies use. For example of a manufacturer of a piece of electronics fucks up for sony, then they most likely will switch manufacturers to somebody who can get the job done. The biggest difference in videogames is that when sony fucks up their hardware and you won't buy their hardware you close yourself off to certain games, this doesnt happen with other products like pcs, cd players, or dvd players.
Cieje3's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/09/2007 02:49
Cieje3
I hate the WORD fanboy as well as the DISTINCTION that the word seems to portray.
I lost the opportunity to work at a friggin' Gamestop because I found out that the mamager thought I was a Nintendo Fanboy! True, I told him I grew up with a NES as my only system until I was 14, but that I NOW currently try to collect every system for all the games I like and the best versions of each crossplatform game I want. Not to mention building myself a bitchin' PC for myself every five years for those sweet gems called FPS.
AARGH!! can't people just grow up regarding this industry?!!?
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