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A pirate is just a customer you haven't met, claims Valve photo

I've often said that while many publishers and developers whine about piracy and the PC market, there's a little company called Valve which rarely seems to bitch about it. Valve's Jason Holtman may provide a clue as to why that is, as he's revealed the developer's philosophy that pirates are just "underserved customers."

"There's a big business feeling that there's piracy," explains Holt. "[But] pirates are underserved customers ... When you think about it that way, you think, 'Oh my gosh, I can do some interesting things and make some interesting money off of it.'

"[At Valve] we take all of our games day-and-date to Russia. The reason people pirated things in Russia is because Russians are reading magazines and watching television -- they say 'Man, I want to play that game so bad,' but the publishers respond 'you can play that game in six months...maybe.'

"We found that our piracy rates dropped off significantly [by releasing in Russia]... [There are] tons of undiscovered customers..."

Valve is a company that seems to truly know how to cultivate and appreciate customer loyalty. While screwing over EA or Activision doesn't sound like a big deal, I think it takes a real special breed of arsehole to rip off Valve. It's great to see a company that understands the power of loyalty, and works with its consumers, instead of against them. 

Maybe a few other companies should stop just sitting there thinking "poor me" and actually do the same kind of good work.








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the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 11:45
the Golden Avatar
Everyone has creative people and creative ideas. But Valve has a design and business philosophy that allows them to stand head and shoulders above most other publishers and studios in the industry.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 11:48
linuxguy
@the Golden Avatar: like excommunicating ps3 owners?
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 11:51
Gyrael
Valve is too awesome.
the Golden Avatar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 11:56
the Golden Avatar
@linuxguy

A company doesn't have to target a certain market or demographic if it's not part of their business model. The PS3 just isn't one of Valve's priorities.
Son of BaconSandwhich's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:02
Son of BaconSandwhich
I think one of the main reasons why valve is so unpirated, is because of projects like the orange box. For a very cheap price, you can have all the recent Half Life's, Portal, and Team Fortress.

Also, when you have a GoTY disc of the original Halflife, Steam will also give you the expansions!

I think with that kind of service, and service with ease, theres no real need TO pirate valve games.
Brando's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:03
Brando
Seriously, Valve knows what they are doing and make Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony look like a bunch of retarded children.
Ikey Heyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:09
Ikey Heyman
ahh, I love Valve, especially their Steam service. the fact you can log in from any computer and download your games was a huge draw to me. they may misjudge time and delay new updates, but I can always forgive that if they're always going to be so nice.
munkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:12
munkee
well said Jim!
dmgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:15
dmgi
Only thing that is preventing me from buying more on Steam is that there are none of those cards like the MS points or the recent PS Store cards. If Steam managed to sell those I would probably be investing way more into Valve.
geekjutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:22
geekjutsu
This is one of the reasons I love Valve. They consistently put out good games, and treat their customers well. I have a few PC gamer friends who pirate some games, but would never pirate a Valve game. It is refreshing to see a company that looks at dealing with piracy in a mature way rather than "needs more DRM" or "bawwww we quit."
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:26
aaronf
@dmgi:

Just buy a Visa gift card at a store with cash and use that on Steam.
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:28
akathatoneguy
I love how it's "whining" or "bitching" if you're speak out about being unhappy with consumers illegally downloading your software.
StressedOutCat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:41
StressedOutCat
Now if they could only also make their games as cheap, or better yet cheaper than the retail copy I can get in stores, ( in Europe ) then I would consider buying off steam again.
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:47
JamnOnTheOne
"Valve is a company that seems to truly know how to cultivate and appreciate customer loyalty. While screwing over EA or Activision doesn't sound like a big deal, I think it takes a real special breed of arsehole to rip off Valve. "

They cultivate loyalty these days with DRM.
CWal37's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 12:58
CWal37
I love Valve so hard.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:00
ProperlyParanoid
Valve rocks.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:00
DeusPayne
It seems like every day Valve does something that makes me love them more and more.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:01
Josh Tolentino
@JamnOnTheOne

Hardly. Any instances of regular DRM (i.e. SecuROM etc.) on a Steam-sold game are the results of special deals and requirements put forward by the publisher in order to be sold via Steam.

I conducted an amateur test of Steam's DRM and it's the most liberal digital distribution system on the market today, short of actual software piracy.

I pirate is indeed an underserved customer in a market you haven't figured out how to break into.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:04
Holyetheline
I bet Russia is booming with happiness.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:32
falinter
I got interested in using Steam well after I switched to Mac. Turning on my PC desktop requires to much effort now. I desperately would love to support Valve and buy their games via Steam.
Logo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:39
Logo
Valve is one of the few companies that actually understands their market, technology, and what they're actually being paid for. No other company is nearly as forward thinking on DRM/Copyright and customer support/care as Valve.

RIAA/MPAA and many game companies could learn a lot from Valve.
Brenex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 13:58
Brenex
And go figure, I own more valve produced games than the other two companies mentioned combined.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 14:01
Excel-2011
Of all the things I've downloaded, only the games from Valve on my Steam account are the ones I paid for. That and Game Maker 7.
Sgt Cheesecake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 14:15
Sgt Cheesecake
It's no wonder my steam account has almost all of Valve's games. They just know how to treat me right.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 14:24
John B
Nicely done, Valve!

Yes, there will always be people who want something for nothing. There is no way to be able to get money from those people.

But Valve has at least done the right thing and looked at it from a "what can we do go turn them from pirates to purchasers" perspective whereas EA and the rest view it from "How the f@$k do we pound the f#^king hell out of those pirates, even if it means that legitimate customers get screwed in the process?"
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 14:34
whormongr
I pirated valve stuff- but that is because I already bought the orange box for console, and I didn't want to have to buy it again for pc- you know that would actually be a pretty cool selling point though, if you buy for console you could get it free off valve.....
konchu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 14:37
konchu
Very smart address the reasons for Piracy you can. Since there is little to no retribution for piracy in Russia you gotta give people an option to buy the software before they pirate it. Cause once they have they are less likely to buy it. And this does brew a sense of loyalty.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 15:16
gamadaya
If Valve is saying it, and it's about piracy, then do exactly what they say.
Coltronathon5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 15:25
Coltronathon5000
there's a reason why all of my PC games were bought from Steam
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 15:40
Cowboy TTop
This is why Valve will always be held aloft in the arms of gamers, because instead of getting all legal, they are rasonable and meet gamers half way.

The other top thing is that Valve have cultivated a great mod community, providing tools and letting the user run with the creative ball (and not worrying about damn copyright stuff...points finger at Sony/Media Molicule). The results are cool stuff like Portal and Left 4 Dead.

In short, when Valve give, they cleverly get something back in return and everyone is happy.
Resonance's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 15:41
Resonance
I pirated all of valves games before I had a job, and then when I had some money, I bought them. Same deal does not apply to other companies with crappier games and higher prices.
Jace101's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 16:12
Jace101
Same for me as for Resonance. I pirated HL1 then bought it. I pirated HL2, played it, loved it then bought the orange box on xbox 360 and I'm about to buy it on Steam.

It's weird but buying a Valve game actually kinda makes me happy. I'm pretty much certain of getting a good game and I'm helping an awesome company. It's all win win!
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 17:58
mistic
I gotta admit, since installing steam, I'm buying a LOT more games for PC then I used to :-) Escpecially with their Packs and "Weekend Offers"
AliasWyvernspur's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 18:34
AliasWyvernspur
<3 Valve (and Steam.) A company that truely loves it's customers.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2009 23:40
hpv
Valve might be a nice company if Gabe Newell could pull his fat head out of the ass of Bill Gates without putting it right back into Steve Ballmer's.
Phalanxxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/17/2009 04:03
Phalanxxx
So... truly worldwide releases lower piracy? umm... nintendo? HEY! LISTEN!
Kasreyn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/17/2009 04:39
Kasreyn
I feel less prone to pirating games now that I have money I can buy games for. Not every kid has a parent they can use to buy their games for them.

linuxguy, it's true that Valve is ignoring linux. If I recall correctly they had a linuxclient for HL1 ready to be shipped but for some reason it got axed. If there was steam for linux I'd be all over it.

Also the orange box on PS3 is a complete disaster. Since a firmware update released a while back none of the games can be played without terrible crackling noises coming from the speakers.

I do like Valve games I just don't think they are the greatest thing ever.
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