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So I just spent a whole feature talking about the problems of trying to support multiple consoles -- why would we still NEVER, EVER want a one-console future? After reading a number of the comments from Dtoiders on my last post, I'm quite impressed how many people seemed to piece it all together, and see that with just one console, there is no competition.

Competition becomes even more vital in an industry that is technology driven. It's quite amazing that Moore's law, which states that computing power doubles every 18 months, still holds true. This rapid evolution is primarily driven by competition. People are constantly trying to outdo each other. Consoles typically have a shelf life of about five to six years. What would happen without competition?

Probably something like what I'll show you after the jump. 

Where da Genesis go? What happened with the PlayStation 2?

Launch Date       Platform
1983                Nintendo Entertainment System
1994                PlayStation
2005                Xbox 360

Having nightmares yet?

In other words, we would potentially skip a whole generation of hardware. So what would make this such a likely scenario? Because when no competition exists, then you have a situation where a company's bottom line is less aligned with consumer needs.

As an example, Nintendo was once clearly dominating the market with the NES. While the Sega Master system was on the market, it had less than 5% marketshare. Nintendo was so comfortable in their position they honestly felt like they could have extended the life of the NES by a good couple more years. From a business perspective it made sense. If they had a massive install base, then they can easily earn revenue with the fees they charge publishers for every game unit sold, a standard practice for all console makers. If they created a new cutting-edge system, the cost would be high, and the user base would have to be rebuilt from scratch. That's just a high level of risk that most companies would rather avoid as long as possible if they could. Even when the Sega Genesis came out, Nintendo was still trying to milk the NES. But the Genesis actually worked. And Nintendo started to expedite the launch of the SNES, and that's when we started to have our first real console wars.

Sega vs Nintendo

Granted this is one example. Do all big companies really act this way when they are in a dominant position? There are too many examples of how new competition fuels the push for some big changes.

Remember when AOL use to dominate the interwebs? They had over 20 million dial-up customers. Keyword: dial-up! Even though broadband was available, AOL didn't want to upgrade because of the cost, and because growth for the dial-up service was still strong. And then cable companies started to offer broadband, and within two years, AOL fell from grace, because it was losing customers at a scary pace. Then they merged with one of the biggest cable guys around, Time Warner.

AOL downfall

A FUTURE SO SCARY
So we have no Genesis and no PlayStation 2. That is one possible scary scenario with a one-console reality. But it doesn't end there. I argue that we also wouldn't have Microsoft's Achievement Points. The whole achievement points system is really a clever way to build loyalty towards the Xbox 360 system. In many ways, I find it similar to Discover Card's "cash back rewards" system. They were a small player in the space, so they created a loyalty system that would pull customers away from Visa and Mastercard. Because it worked, today you have all sorts of loyalty reward systems in place for just about every credit card. I also see a future with no Nintendo Wii. The Wii in many ways was born out of Nintendo's desire to change the rules of the hardware race by focusing on a new experience rather than improved hardware performance. Without competition, would they have been so bold to try something so crazy? Mind you, when the Wii was first announced, everyone thought they were nuttier than a Snickers bar. Including me.

WHEN DOES A ONE-CONSOLE FUTURE MAKE SENSE?
I will say this, there is potentially one day when a one console future makes sense. And that's when technology has reached its absolute peak, and no more improvements can be made. Thus, there's no more reason to upgrade. Then the focus shifts from hardware to software. And that's when having one console makes sense, because then we are thinking about how to make games better. But it almost seems impossible to think that technology can't keep improving. Soon we'll have our flying cars (only to be made obsolete with teleportation chambers).

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

Some people propose the potential for a one-console future by having different companies come together and create one console core technology. The only problem with this is that some companies refuse to work with others, simply because they are competitors. The other problem is that if you have lots of companies coming together to make a core system, everyone would want a cut of the profits. If it were that easy, then we wouldn't have the whole Blu-ray vs HD-DVD debacle. This fight was ugly, and it wasn't because of whose technology was better, it was about who would eventually control the market with THEIR technology, so they can earn residual money on every disc made compatible with their system. That's hundreds of billions of dollars on the line.

DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION IS OUR FUTURE
There are some folks who think that the concept of console wars will be obsolete in the future. Gaming will move towards a digital distribution model. That is very fascinating, and does warrant some further discussion!

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Dr. Boa may sound like someone who starred in some porn with Dirk Diggler, but his true passion is interactive entertainment. He's notched +15 years in the gaming industry from QA to launching several big hits, so he's got a healthy perspective on what goes on from the flipside. It's amazing he's not a jaded cynic yet. He's finally glad to see more drug filled parties with playboy bunnies and B level celebs like all other entertainment fields. Yes, gaming has finally made it.

 


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Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 10:43
Professor Pew
You raise some interesting points and people have already said most of what there is to say. I'm just wondering if MS will transfer achievement points to their next console, they would be stupid not to do so.

Also, doesn't Moore's Law itself drive technology as much as competition drives it to match Moore's Law?

Finally, I disagree with some of the commenters that seem to think that one unified console would eliminate fanboyism. It would only reform it into software-based fanboyism instead of the hardware-based kind.

You won't get as much diversity either. Say that Gears of War made the chainsaw popular again as a mainstream usable weapon, I can't see MS pushing the chainsaw agenda to compete with that, but Sony definitely needs to join in the chainsaw race. Mr. President, we must not allow...a chainsaw gap!
savagesaladin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 11:05
savagesaladin
I was staring at that picture for a few seconds, then I realized that there was a face in the background and I thought it was myself. Pretty terrifying.
SuperD1984's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 11:59
SuperD1984
ok, things arent exactly perfect at the moment but you have to agree that the industry now is more diverse and producing a higher quality product than ever before<<< not including DS/Wii party games.
PaperBowser0's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 12:10
PaperBowser0
Pii360? WTF, that would pretty much suck. hmmmm....I wonder how much that would cost......
DrXym's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 13:26
DrXym
In theory you could have a single console, if that "console" was in fact a specification that any CE could manufacturer. Then console makers would compete on features and price and games would run on any console.

There are some massive hurdles to overcome.

Consoles would be more expensive, the spec would probably change every few years making it impossible to play the latest games, online would be fragmented or monopolized. And who actually owns the spec? Who is responsible for certifying games?

We can all guess that Microsoft would absolutely want to force all hardware makers to use the same firmware and to use XBox Live. And we can all guess that Sony would force Blu Ray into the box, and probably want to ensure a large slice of hardware IP licences went its way.

I really don't see it being good news for gamers. The console would be more expensive, have a shorter life span, and the online would likely cost money. I think it would be a total disaster.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 13:30
liquidninja
There will always be competition until their is no need for it. Take the Sega Genesis for example they came when there actually was one console (NES). But Sega filled the void Nintendo left which was older kid gamers.

You see because kids were growing up and the NES didn't satisfy them anymore the Genesis got a foot hold. Anytime a company doesn't fully satisfy their customers that leaves an opening for competition.
greks224's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 15:22
greks224
I think this author should take into account the PC gaming world - If the consoles stayed this inferior to the graphics card manufacturers in terms of graphics quality (imagine playing PS2 quality games, when only the Playstation is out) then people would move onto gaming on their PC's - especially because these devices also function as a machine for doing so much more.

This hole in the argument is a little disappointing. I would appreciate an answer back on that one.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 16:11
Holyetheline
@BS3 Owner

Yeah that would suck if comcast can charge for what you DL... so lame.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 16:16
Namelessted
@Rbrtchng, you model that you layed out is quite flawed. You assume that a manufacturer makes more money off of a console than a video game. Truth is, they don't really make profit off of base hardware sales. Look at both the 360 and PS3, both Microsoft and Sony lost significant sums of money over the first year of the system. I think I remember reading something about Microsoft losing $8 billion on teh first Xbox but it was worth it to them as a way to get into the market.

The fact remains that the longer a system remains on teh market as a popular system, the more profit the company makes. The only reason for a company to develop the next system is to keep their consumer captivated. And without competition, it is much easier for a company to keep consumers using their product.
DFS Vegas's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 16:43
DFS Vegas
You guys keep saying there would be no competion, but it goes against the same argument that "Graphics don't matter, only gameplay matters", The only thing that would be staying the same is technology. The competition in making great game would actually elevate.

What if Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy had to compete with the same exact consumer base that spent $500 on one console. Wouldn't it spur them to make a better game if they knew they had to compete directly with with each other?

I'm sorry, but I see no reason having a console standard wouldn't be awesome. For consumers, we would just have to buy one console at $500-$600, and not have to worry about weather or not MGS4 or GTA4 will be on my console. On the flipside, developers can make their games better, because they wont have to worry about making multiple versions, and they wouldn't have to worry about porting. And, they wouldn't have to decided between formats. They know everybody will have the chance to play their game, because they WILL have a console that is capable.

The only argument I've heard is this "lack of competition", and it holds zero merit for me. We'll no longer be worring about "Does GTA 4 look better on the PS3 or Xbox 360", and more about "What deserves my $60 more... Mario or Halo 3". The competition will get back to where it's supposed to be. On the GAMES.

Now STFU, and give me my one console cycle.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/11/2008 20:10
adultswim810
epic shop and you made me want a snickers.. and butterfinger... mmmmm
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