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"They combated the piracy on DSi, which they don't believe is cracked yet"
lol, yes it has (unfortunatly)
I hope it is semi-cracked, homebrew without the piracy. Would love to see some homebrew devs work some 3D magic.
lol, yes it has (unfortunatly)
I hope it is semi-cracked, homebrew without the piracy. Would love to see some homebrew devs work some 3D magic.
The entire DS pirating scene just raised a collective eyebrow, twiddled their clichè Western "Dastardly Villain" handlebar mustaches and said "Is that so?"
If not to further undermine their rather weak attempt at puffing up their chests in satisfaction, a statement like "It's so sophisticated to explain why it's so sophisticated" doesn't really strike me as anything more than something an executive would say to be constituent to his or her ignorant shareholders. :\
*sigh*
If not to further undermine their rather weak attempt at puffing up their chests in satisfaction, a statement like "It's so sophisticated to explain why it's so sophisticated" doesn't really strike me as anything more than something an executive would say to be constituent to his or her ignorant shareholders. :\
*sigh*
Seriously though, the only way that it would be hard to crack would be with a high-power hypervisor, which would be a massive battery drain.
It's the only reason the PS3 has survived as long as it has. Hell, the 360 had a similar system, but that was circumvented by DVD-ROM firmware lying to the hypervisor saying "LOL THIS CODE IS SIGNED 4 REALZ RUN PLZ" and the JTAG hack being a software bug.
It's the only reason the PS3 has survived as long as it has. Hell, the 360 had a similar system, but that was circumvented by DVD-ROM firmware lying to the hypervisor saying "LOL THIS CODE IS SIGNED 4 REALZ RUN PLZ" and the JTAG hack being a software bug.
Well at least we can say goodbye to point-and-click ROMs. Good grief those people must have had hell playing Mario and Luigi RPG 3.
I...would love it if the commenting system had "edit after the fact" functionality. My ability to proof read my crap is limited with 4 hours of sleep and no caffeine. Have a heart!
Well on how broken emulators are, it can be safe to assume that any 3DS emulation is going to be near impossible for a few years.
As for home-brew, who knows how long till someone actually cracks that wide open.
As for home-brew, who knows how long till someone actually cracks that wide open.
@Atheist Jew
I feel you. I always think of something else to say after I hit submit and then have a bajillion comments in one news post.
I feel you. I always think of something else to say after I hit submit and then have a bajillion comments in one news post.
"So long as Nintendo's tech doesn't involve getting a Firmware update every two weeks" OOOOH SNAAP!!!!! Sony, im sorry to say this but you just got burned.
@RoverTHX
Depends completley on the architecture, though. If the copy protection scheme is cracked and it's off-the-shelf components, I wouldn't bet against a GBA-like turnaround from the emu scene.
Depends completley on the architecture, though. If the copy protection scheme is cracked and it's off-the-shelf components, I wouldn't bet against a GBA-like turnaround from the emu scene.
Each 3DS contains a highly sophisticated AI which monitors your use of it, and if it thinks you're pirating, it phones the police.
maybe theyve made the games so you HAVE to use 3D vision to get passed certain areas. ie you get to an area, a puzzle blocks the way and can only be dicyphered with the 3d vision. Therefore you would have to be playing on a 3d screen, which will only be afforadable on the 3ds. Its would stop pc emulation at least
Just had a thought. If it somehow uses the rumored 3G to phone home/automatically update my console, I may have to re-consider my pre-order...
@Hasney No they haven't. You still can play DS roms on a DSi, but you can't pirate DSi-only games.
You can't pirate DSiWare either. It's locked to a single system, and the hackers haven't found a way to remove the lock yet.
You can't pirate DSiWare either. It's locked to a single system, and the hackers haven't found a way to remove the lock yet.
You know, they're probably staying mum on the subject because...uh, if you tell people how the security works, you're going to give them a head start on defeating it. =P
I have ideas on what they'd try for security, but they're all a bit loopy anyway.
I have ideas on what they'd try for security, but they're all a bit loopy anyway.
@Woopman
I see what you mean. DSi-enhanced carts work, but with the DSi features unusable.
I think if there's a DSi/DSi Ware killer-app, things will progress a little quicker. not many people are probably bothered about the DSi functions of The Biggest Loser ;)
I see what you mean. DSi-enhanced carts work, but with the DSi features unusable.
I think if there's a DSi/DSi Ware killer-app, things will progress a little quicker. not many people are probably bothered about the DSi functions of The Biggest Loser ;)
The DSi hasn't really been cracked yet. The devices that run on them utilize a workaround in its software whitelist while leaving the firmware itself untouched. As has been said, DSi-exclusive software cannot be installed by software means yet, and until it can, the DSi is not cracked.
Duh u guys haven't figured it out yet?? They're gonna ship out a nintendo rep with each 3ds purchase to look over ur shoulder when u play it. And they're gonna wear a shirt that says just think of me ad your own pokemon.
If you play a pirated game on your 3DS, Patchy the Pirate will appear in fully 3D glory and ruin your game by tripping over the environment.
I can't wait until the 3DS is cracked. If it has the same piracy potential as the DS, it'll possibly end up being one of my favorite systems ever.
I'm glad the anti-piracy on the 3DS that he can't explain at all because he doesn't know how it works excites him more than the games. It shows what THQ cares about above all else, and it shows that, unsurprisingly, the people who run not especially successful game companies are idiots.
I use my sd card reader so I can play POWDER - the greatest free roguelike ever! - on my DS. I even sent a donation to its author.
I think that the pirates will go full-force on the 3DS when it will be out, considering the 3D capabilities of the system which can give very interesting homebrew apps. Among other things, I can't wait to see the different homebrew game ports on 3DS that would be done in 3D!
Also, saying piracy is theft is a big fallacy. I agree that it hurts developers but it always make me cringe when I hear that.
Also, saying piracy is theft is a big fallacy. I agree that it hurts developers but it always make me cringe when I hear that.
Will they make playing 3DS games convenient, or will you have to carry multiple carts around all the time?
I tell ya, that's the biggest advantage flash cards have for me - not having to have multiple carts around for when I just so happen to want a shot at Advance Wars instead of playing Jump Ultimate Stars all the time. I already lost my copy of Jump Super Stars because I was carrying it in my pocket and it slipped out.
Also, it's f'en awesome being able to play Mega Man 2 or Garou: Mark of the Wolves anywhere.
I tell ya, that's the biggest advantage flash cards have for me - not having to have multiple carts around for when I just so happen to want a shot at Advance Wars instead of playing Jump Ultimate Stars all the time. I already lost my copy of Jump Super Stars because I was carrying it in my pocket and it slipped out.
Also, it's f'en awesome being able to play Mega Man 2 or Garou: Mark of the Wolves anywhere.
Well like always time will tell also this is like them challenging hackers to break there ode and hack their games. Well I wish nintendo luck and also I will keep buying their still.
I've discovered their anti-piracy system, it's called EVERYTHING FANS HAVE EVER ASKED FOR COMING OUT FOR THE 3DS! THAT is why I will buy everything legitimately, that and because I <3 Nintendo. Zelda, StarFox, Pikmin3, etc. Just watch.
Oh and lol @ MightyVince, piracy _IS_theft, sorry bro, justify it all you want.
Oh and lol @ MightyVince, piracy _IS_theft, sorry bro, justify it all you want.
Great news. It still probably doesn't hold much hope since there are many that would rather waste their skills around this whole piracy and homebrew charade than make some games for the system and make a decent living.
I hope it gets cracked just for the inevitable N64 emulator. Setting up dual virtual cams shouldn't be too hard for a good programmer.
"So, Nintendo has issued a challenge?"
Nintendo hasn't said the damn thing here, this is what a guy from THQ said, not Nintendo. Maybe you should read the story first, before coming to a absurd conclusion. I don't get why anyone (who doesn't already steal games) would have a problem with this? Piracy can kill a system, just take a look at the PSP as a example of it. The DS has only been hurt a little by it, but its still being hurt none-the-less. No one is saying Nintendo is going outright stop piracy, but if they can control it, then I for one, am all for it!
Nintendo hasn't said the damn thing here, this is what a guy from THQ said, not Nintendo. Maybe you should read the story first, before coming to a absurd conclusion. I don't get why anyone (who doesn't already steal games) would have a problem with this? Piracy can kill a system, just take a look at the PSP as a example of it. The DS has only been hurt a little by it, but its still being hurt none-the-less. No one is saying Nintendo is going outright stop piracy, but if they can control it, then I for one, am all for it!
stop fighting piracy!!
you wont win, im a pirate i know that
if you want to reduce piracy to acceptable levels, simply give buyers legitimate reasons to buy your games, or make effective content delivery platforms, like steam
you wont win, im a pirate i know that
if you want to reduce piracy to acceptable levels, simply give buyers legitimate reasons to buy your games, or make effective content delivery platforms, like steam
Capcom DS games aren't being released over here (Netherlands) anymore due to piracy. This news makes me happy.
Seriously, I've never seen someone playing the NDS in the train that didn't have a flashcard in it.
Seriously, I've never seen someone playing the NDS in the train that didn't have a flashcard in it.
The problem is here if this drives up the cost of games or if it makes it so that the game cannot be played on more than one system, I will not be buying it and I will be sticking with my DS. If this eliminates used copies, I will definitely not be buying it.
It's too hard to explain because it's SOOOOO SOPHISTICATED! That sounds kind of like hype to me. I sure hope that THQ isn't being taken for a ride on that one.
They could strap the 3DS to one of those pretty females like they had in E3.
You know, to keep me from pirating... *creepy laugh*
You know, to keep me from pirating... *creepy laugh*
The DSi has been cracked for a while with the R4i. Where has this guy been? Anyway, they can try as hard as they want but the 3DS will get cracked. There's a thousand hackers for every 3DS developer out there. Even the invincible PS3 has been cracked. I know I sound like a pessimist here, but it's a fight Nintendo can't win.
Piracy is not theft in the common sense of the word because altough you don't pay for what you get, you don't remove it from the developer.
Let's say you steal a bike from a shop. When you do that, not only you haven't paid for the bike but you removed the possibility for the shop to sell it to someone else.
When you download a game illegally, there's no direct loss from it. There is only a lack of profit. And a lot of times, a pirated game is NOT a lost sale because, personal experience speaking, many people that downloads pirated games never have the intention to buy the games they download.
The right word for it is "copyright infringment". And it's way less damageable than traditional theft, altough it's still is. I guess the definition of "theft" could be debated. Maybe it's because of those kind of ads that I'm jumpy to the use of the word "theft" and "stealing" to describe piracy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU&feature=related).
I'm not pro-piracy or anything ; In fact, I agree that it sucks for developers. I just think that companies sometimes love to jump into easy conclusions and see a pirated game as a direct loss which brings draconian solutions that hurts them more than anything (bad rep from legitimate users, etc.). I applaud Nintendo's efforts, I just hope that they can make a system that doesn't hurt legitimate users.
Let's say you steal a bike from a shop. When you do that, not only you haven't paid for the bike but you removed the possibility for the shop to sell it to someone else.
When you download a game illegally, there's no direct loss from it. There is only a lack of profit. And a lot of times, a pirated game is NOT a lost sale because, personal experience speaking, many people that downloads pirated games never have the intention to buy the games they download.
The right word for it is "copyright infringment". And it's way less damageable than traditional theft, altough it's still is. I guess the definition of "theft" could be debated. Maybe it's because of those kind of ads that I'm jumpy to the use of the word "theft" and "stealing" to describe piracy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU&feature=related).
I'm not pro-piracy or anything ; In fact, I agree that it sucks for developers. I just think that companies sometimes love to jump into easy conclusions and see a pirated game as a direct loss which brings draconian solutions that hurts them more than anything (bad rep from legitimate users, etc.). I applaud Nintendo's efforts, I just hope that they can make a system that doesn't hurt legitimate users.
the thing is that the best way to prevent piracy is to open the system up to homebrew - possibly allow a dual boot. The really good hackers are all from the homebrew community and not the piracy community. If you allow people to do things that you can't control but don't hurt your bottom line you drive the pirates further under by taking the high road and you gain the trust of the homebrew community at the same time.
I liked the fact that I could store and play my entire library of games from retro consoles conveniently on my handheld system using one those R4's; but I'm highly opposed to pirating games that are still widely available in stores. I hope that these anti-piracy measures works out, as long as it doesn't hurt legitimate customers!
As somebody who has no clue how cracking hardware works, I'm going to guess that somebody will find a way to crack the 3DS. Somebody always finds a way.
Good on Nintendo for trying to combat piracy, though. You can't blame 'em for trying.
Good on Nintendo for trying to combat piracy, though. You can't blame 'em for trying.
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