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3DS already hacked for R4 use

11:25 AM on 02.26.2011   |   Jim Sterling

3DS already hacked for R4 use photo

So, the 3DS went on sale in Japan YESTERDAY and it appears that thieves and hooligans are already able to have their way with it. Despite being built to tackle piracy, Nintendo's latest handheld has been "hacked" for use with R4 cards, at least according to Japanese gamers who posted their antics on Youtube. 

Bear in mind that, since this uses an R4, only the DS side of things have been infiltrated. You won't be able to steal -- sorry, "back up" -- your 3DS games just yet, but it seems you'll be able to do it with your old DS library. 

Although most are calling this a hack, some argue that the use of an R4 Card isn't "hacking" per se. Whatever you want to call it, the 3DS' software has been bypassed in order to get the cards running, so it's dodgy no matter what label you want to slap on it. 

As far as the dedicated 3DS software goes, only time will tell if that's an uncrackable nut. Probably not.

[Thanks, Paolo!]

 








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TJF588's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:29
TJF588
Damn you, Arfoire! Come, Neptune, there is still work to be done, for Gamindustri!
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:30
bluemeep
If I was able to use homebrew on the 3DS, it would be a day one seller for me. Just sayin'.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:30
Gorescream
inb4 senseless accusations
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:31
Scissors
Damn it, oh well I guess there was nothing you could do about the DS's library it was already hacked. I hope they don't break the 3DS to soon.
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:33
watermanx
Bloody cheap ass pirates.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:35
mistic
well I'm surely impressed that it happened so fast...

Even if it's "just" the DS-portion of the console, it clearly shows that there are loopholes once again... R4's are ok, they gave me the best pocket-sized-wifi-linux-terminal I ever found and also provided me with a decent browser before I had a smartphone, sadly most people use it for totally different stuff...

I can't wait for homebrew on the 3DS, 3D-video-recording/streaming will happen soon (I'm pretty sure) and that would make the 3DS the cheapest 3D-cam around, a way better reason for me to get one then any of the launch-games :-p

I also foresee a couple or AR-ports in the homebrew-scene, like that AR-RPG that's being devved on 'droid, the 3DS will be more capable for it since it has 2 cams and thus can actually see 'depth'... I don't think Nintendo will allow us to use even 25% of what would be possible on it, so it'll be up to the homebrew-crowd to get us all this nifty software, and I'm sure they'll step up to the task after Nintendo challenged them by claiming the 3DS would be unhackable :p
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:36
Jon B
Inevitable. The 3DS is running DS games as DS games and since the R4 pretends to be a game...
Actually a pretty big plus point, since it'd be a pretty big hassle to lug around even more games. Plus if the 3DS gets cracked then I won't have to deal with the fucking retarded region lock either.

Of course though, it'll mean piracy. But honestly, what doesn't these days. Just wait for the NGP's launch, that'll be really damn quick if the past is to be believed.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:40
Chris Carter
Shit looks like a Pro Action Replay.
Tabarnaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:50
Tabarnaco
That sucks for Nintendo, hopefully the 3DS format is more secure.
Weebos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:51
Weebos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ&feature=related
Nethrazim's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:56
Nethrazim
Nintendo is going to start a crusade against every hacker. Hunting them doing and lining them up against a wall, ordering their platoon of mercenaries to fire at will. Oh wait......that's Sony.
MathewRD's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:58
MathewRD
If it's technology worth hacking, it'll be hacked.

inb4 butthurt people, AKA Jim Sterling.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 11:58
KingSigy
Wow. Already? That's kind of impressive, but I also hate this shit.
Zyphron37's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:01
Zyphron37
I give them 100 hours to use some kind of card to play 3DS games.
sqlrob's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:03
sqlrob
@MathewRD: RTFA
Conan-san's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:04
Conan-san
Good.

Next time, Nintendo will think twice about crying the pirate wolf when justifying their need to region lock their shit.
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:04
Maniac
Coming soon, 3D 3DS homebrew porn?
MathewRD's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:09
MathewRD
@sqlrob,

Please, let's not be ignorant. I would NEVER post a comment without reading the article. But what I may draw from it may be wrong, but that's merely a miscommunication problem.

What I got was: The 3DS has R4 card capabilities now, and while it can't run 3DS-related things, the original DS's library should work fine.
Trygle12's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:11
Trygle12
I liked hacjing shit back when it cost and arm and a leg... so only blokes like me could actually back-up their games without much persecution.



The advent of easy to use flash-cards has made the threat of piracy tremendously higher...


Meaning I can't carry my entire library in my pocket anymore. :(
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:12
Retrofraction
That is F***ing pathetic, the sad thing is that they will probably be tons of 13 year old kids that buy cheep crap like that so that they do not have to pay tribute to the devlopers that spent parts of their lives to make these games.

Lazy bums can't even work to buy games should not be allowed to play video games at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crazy turtle1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:12
crazy turtle1234
As morally bankrupt as it is, it is very impressive that they've already managed to hack into the 3DS, you do have to give these guys some credit.
esin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:13
esin
Nintendo plans to use firmware updates to combat piracy.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124753p1.html
qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:16
qlum
but really it was to be expected ds games just have very little protection but it wont matter much for nintendo that you can still play pirated ds games on the 3ds
TomcatTheLion's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:16
TomcatTheLion
I guess it's only a matter of time before the 3DS software part is cracked. Sad.
crazy turtle1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:19
crazy turtle1234
@Retrofaction

How exactly are 13 year old kids supposed to work, out of curiosity? I somewhat doubt a thirteen year old kid would be able to apply for a job anywhere.
MathewRD's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:19
MathewRD
@Retrofraction,

You mad bro?
You mad.

@esin,
>Implying Pirates can't skip updates
MeisterLi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:19
MeisterLi
It's nice to know I can still use my Emulators on the go (altho I really prefer the PSP for that) and, admittedly, it is damn handy to have all your games on one cartridge rather than 10 (altho I buy the original games as well... I sometimes don't unwrap them, tho :P)

As for 3DS Mode, I hope that won't be hacked anytime soon. The DS software library suffered noticeably from the easy and quick ways to pirate games, and I don't want to see the same happening to the 3DS.
A11smart's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:22
A11smart
TJF588, especially for having the first comment be so epic in scope, you == Hero.
True Axiom's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:22
True Axiom
Unsurprising. Once they said they were going to have DS card support, this was inevitable, considering the R4 is basically like opening a game. The only way to avoid it practically would have been to emulate the DS hardware on the 3DS, which would be a lot more work for something that'd be broken, too.

The R4 is a cool practical device which has a lot of interesting things on it, so it's a shame that most people see it (and it's become) primarily a platform for piracy.
Zachary Nava's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:23
Zachary Nava
3DS homebrew would be epic!!!
Davoidbot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:25
Davoidbot
Hmmmmm, I wonder what that update that's supposed to come after the North American launch is for....
Adam Duffles Duffield's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:27
Adam Duffles Duffield
I never use R4 cards
But the increasing number of games being released outside Europe but not within and the region locking Im considering getting one; mind you only for the games I physically cannot get
Shotgang's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:27
Shotgang
Now that's damn ridiculous! Come on Nintendo, who makes your hack safety, a baboon with Parkinson?
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:30
Maniac
@Adam Duffles Duffield

Thats not really a new problem. Every system since the NES has had problems with some games being released in one region and not in others. Hell, I'm still waiting for Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS and Monster Hunter Frontier for the PC to come to the US.
Dragoonkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:33
Dragoonkin
TBH (to look at this sensibly) they probably just didn't-care and protecting a legacy library that was already compromised all to hell.

On top of that, well, how are they supposed to add additional-protection to a copy-protection scheme that was already busted? I wouldn't be surprised if people just slotted their existing R4s into a 3DS and It Just Worked (TM).
mratomix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:34
mratomix
fucking self-righteous gamers on here man...kk it was going to get hacked, redistribution of power protocols is a wonderful thing. Thank god we don't live in a world where there is only one way of doing things (stealing is fun Jim, you should try it!)
Adam Duffles Duffield's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:36
Adam Duffles Duffield
@Maniac
I suppose then its only effecting my recently :L
Still a problem though, Id pay for them IF I could
NESgamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:45
NESgamer
THANK GOD i will be able to "backup" all my games.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 12:52
ProperlyParanoid
Meh, I have a R4 for my DS but I plan to actually buy the games this time, if only because the cases are oh so pretty.
Synesthesia's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:01
Synesthesia
this makes my penis hard and STICKAY
Stealth's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:08
Stealth
another bullshit jim article which isnt true. Because the 3ds is compatible with ds games and is full yregion free it works........ nothing hacked

and why not an article about how in less than 24 hours the 3ds is already sold out?


to positive?
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:09
Los255
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Sebproductions's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:13
Sebproductions
Arent these just like those multi game card things that like all 7 year olds had ????
FunkzillaBOT's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:14
FunkzillaBOT
Damn.
samuraiedward's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:18
samuraiedward
@TJF588 xD Best. Comment. Of. The. Day
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:20
TheDirtyHobo
Brilliant. I won't have to wait so long before ordering my 3DS now.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:22
Sexualchocolate
Is this where we all act like we're better at console protection then Nintendo?

That's how it worked for Sony right, after 5 years, so Nintendo lost this one in 1 day, they gonna get the same treatment? Right?

#doublestandards
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:25
TheDirtyHobo
Brilliant. I won't have to wait so long before ordering my 3DS now.
Shane Saiyan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:32
Shane Saiyan
Oh good. I bought a card ages ago so I wouldn't have to carry around my DS library with me on flights (and that's ALL I use it for). Good to know I'll be able to do the same with the 3DS. Carrying around a bunch of cartridges is a bitch.
GREENGUY's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2011 13:42
GREENGUY
HUZZAH
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