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2009's highest grossing new IP? DJ Hero photo

If I had to guess what the highest grossing new IP of 2009 was, I probably would not have picked DJ Hero. Nothing against Activision's game or anything, but I didn't think it made that big of a dent last year.

It did, though. It pulled in more than a dozen best music game awards in the US and made plenty of "best of" lists for '09. Even more than that is the NPD Group's ranking of the game as the number one new IP for 2009 for both North America and Europe, according to this press release we just read.

Congrats, Activision.

What would you have picked for a top IP for 2009. My mind jumped to Borderlands. What else am I forgetting?








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LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:26
LsTr Of SmG
Borderlands, Demon's Souls, Dragon Age... The list goes on. There were quite a few great new IPs last year.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:26
Bob Muir
Not to nitpick, but that image is of Scratch: Ultimate DJ, not DJ Hero.
HazyCloud's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:27
HazyCloud
I'm digging DJ Hero. Got it for Xmas and have been jamming on medium ever since.
I think the header is from that other DJ game and not DJ Hero.
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:27
BFeld13
So how long until someone points out that the screenshot Dale used isn't from DJ Hero?
widowhams's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:29
widowhams
infamous?
why didnt anyone buy that?
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:30
Kalmah
I'd definitely go with inFAMOUS too. Shame, 2009 really lacked original IP's.
Uzzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:31
Uzzy
Uh... huh. Don't suppose you've got a source for that info, Dale, cause it's very surprising. I was under the impression DJ Hero barely sold, especially when compared to the great stuff like Dragon Age and Borderlands.
mOnion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:31
mOnion
demons souls pretty much won me over for the year.

borderlands is keeping me busy too though.

fuck. music. games.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:32
Xzyliac
Yes. Haters be damned.

There a few good new IPs last year but honestly I think the sequels outshined them all. It was a good year for sequels.

I guess Arkham Asylum counts so I'd say that was probably my favorite even if it borrows from such a familiar license.
ndschroede23's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:36
ndschroede23
Is this total amount of sales or total amount of money grossed? If it's the latter, I'll bet it's at least partially due to the significantly higher cost of DJ Hero.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:36
mix
Anyone else notice that guys are is REALLY close to looking like a penis?




....no just me....lol
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:36
KwikPwn
Sounds a bit off to me, like maybe they used some creative wording and/or math to come to this conclusion.
Maybe they meant highest grossing per unit.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:37
mix
are = arm, dammit.
VinceNotVance's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:38
VinceNotVance
Really? Didn't Borderlands sell twice as much (if not more so) even at half the price? How about Prototype selling some 300,000 units in its first month?
zer0faults's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:40
zer0faults
DJ Hero has been amazing. I got it for my girl thinking I wouldn't enjoy it myself since I never really got into GH or RB. DJ Hero was easier for me to get down since the issue I had with GH was always the bottom most key. Anyway the music in DJ Hero is superb and the scratching is great fun.

For anyone passing on it cause they think its a rip off, give it a try, you will probably enjoy it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:40
Xzyliac
@VinceNotVance
But did they cost $150-$200?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:42
Xzyliac
My bad. $120-$200.

Interestingly the price dropped to $90 on Amazon. When did that happen?
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:42
hermes
Borderlands, inFamous, Arkham Asylum, Demon's Soul, Dragon Age, Ghostbusters, Brutal Legend...

Sorry, but I am not buying that PR message. I have nothing against DJ Hero, but I think any of the games menctioned above did better than it.
Splaa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:48
Splaa
arkham asylum isn't new IP. If I recall, batman has been around for a little while. Same with ghostbusters. Durr.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:48
Xzyliac
Just so people get what's going on here:

The fastest selling IP was Borderlands.

The most proftiable was DJ Hero.

DJ Hero cost $120 last year at minimum. So essentially one copy of DJ Hero is two Borderlands (assuming you payed full price what with all the sales).

These numbers are coming from the NPD not Activision. I don't see why people think this is a PR stunt.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:51
Arch649
Highest grossing = total revenue. It doesn't mean return on investment. It makes sense since DJ Hero costs $100-$120 and sold roughly 100,000 copies (Not sure of the exact figures). That would mean it grossed ~$10-12 million dollars. Also considering the fact that there were very few IP that came out last year (Borderlands and Infamous would be the only other I can think of right now).
fuze54's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:52
fuze54
I'm glad to hear it. I was afraid it wasn't going to do well, but it seems I wasn't the only one who enjoys it. Now let's hope the sequel has a little more diversity, character creation, practice mode, and I know it's asking for ALOT but maybe a way to fade into one mix and into another through some kind of beatmatching mode. haha I don't think it can be done well but hey, a man can dream can't he?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 12:59
Tubatic
So DJ Hero may have sold just more than half of the units sold on whatever the #2 grossing game was. Which would cause trouble for people with lots of boxes left over (Amazon.com).

Very interesting math thingy.

I'd love to get more detail like Arch649 and Xzy are hinting at.
The Spleen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:03
The Spleen
I bet this is solely because of the price per unit of DJ Hero:

At $120/200 per unit, DJ Hero would've needed to sell significantly less copies to make the same amount of money as Borderlands (probably the highest selling new IP of 2009).

IF, big "if", DJ Hero sold 1.5 million copies at $120 each, that would've equaled $180,000,000 - I'm sure the $200 price for the Renegade Edition would also boost the money factor. This $180 million would've been the exact same amount if Borderlands (or any other new IP) sold 3 million copies. Obviously these are straight numbers, not accounting for where the actual money goes.

Since I highly doubt DJ Hero sold 1 million + copies (after barely hitting 350,000 copies in its first 2 months), I think it was the most profitable new IP...of the rhythm game genre.

The press release doesn't specify but it does make it sound like it's the highest grossing new IP out of every category.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:07
ParaParaKing
Borderlands made less money than DJ Hero? I am offended.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:09
ParaParaKing
Looking in to this DJ Hero sold more than 1.5 million units world wide over all four platforms. How did that happen?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:15
Tubatic
@TheSpleen

DJ Hero seems like the kind of thing kids would ask for for Christmas, because the price is kind ridiculous. Hell, that's what I did.:)

December numbers must be bananas...

B-A-N-A-N-A-S.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:16
free touch
If you guys would give it a shot, you'd love it. DJ hero is a nice spin on the whole rhythm game section.
zer0faults's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:17
zer0faults
1.79 million sales for DJ Hero across 2 platforms according to VGChartz latest figures. Borderlands sold 1.86 on only 2 platforms according to the same source. So its easy to see DJ Hero killing Borderlands in this aspect.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:18
Tubatic
@free touch

Yeah,DJ Hero is a really fun.... heeeeey...
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:24
KingSigy
Well, awesome. I'm pretty sure this is bullshit, but DJ Hero deserves more credit.
azr's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:33
azr
Demon's Souls
Dragon Age
Borderlands
inFamous
Shadow Complex
Torchlight
azr's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:36
azr
Wait, scratch Shadow Complex from my last comment, as it was not a new IP.
Anjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:39
Anjo
What the hell? DJ Hero sold very poorly. How is this possible?
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:40
Br0th3rGr1mm
Wonder what the current price of all those new IP games are now compared to their release price. IMO, that's the true mearsure of thier success....

DJ Hero - $119.99 now $89.99 (October 27, 2009 - 3 months)
InFamous - $59.99 now $36.99 (May 26, 2009 - 8 months)
Prototype - $59.99 now $32.99 (June 9, 2009 - 7.5 months)
Borderlands - $59.99 now $54.99 (October 20, 2009) - 3 months)
Dragon Age - $59.99 now $56.99 (November 20, 2009 - 2 months)
Demon Souls - $59.99 now $56.99 (October 7, 2009) - 3.5 months)
Brutal Legend - $59.99 now $39.99 (October 7, 2009) - 3.5 months)

(NA releases and console prices) The only ones that appear to be prematurely discounted are DJ Hero and Brutal Legend....just saying.
azr's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:41
azr
@Xzyliac
"I guess Arkham Asylum counts so I'd say that was probably my favorite even if it borrows from such a familiar license."

"Borrows"... ? It BELONGS to a familiar license, ergo, it is not a new IP. So no, it does NOT count.
zer0faults's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 13:46
zer0faults
@ Br0th3rGr1mm - Thats not really a valid comparison since games with accessories discount first because they happen to generate the most profit. The game discounted from 120 to 90$ is still making money. You can look at something like Guitar Hero as a perfect example.
KingFaisal94's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:10
KingFaisal94
Infamous.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:12
Xzyliac
@azr
Phew. I thought I was an angry fella. I guess I assumed by "borrows" people knew what I was talking about and I guess by "new IP" I meant reboot which you're right it doesn't count.

Now I've got these Valiums. I mean they help me out. Just sayin'.
mi55ter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:19
mi55ter
Exactly what part of DJ Hero was innovative? The title? They put a real spin on Guitar Hero to come up with that one...
Borderlands was my fav IP for 2009
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:44
loki d20
This seems kind of skewed to me. DJ Hero alone cost almost about what 2 base games would have cost, no? So, highest grossing may not necessarily mean much in comparison to most sold. I'm sure Activision is raking in some ridiculous cash for yet another peripheral cash cow, though. Only off-set by the complete failure that is Tony Hawk's recent game + peripheral, though.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:51
Xzyliac
@loki d20
And that's what I and some others are saying. It's not a conspiracy or PR. It's blatant and right there in text. All this NPD report says is it's the highest grossing which is a big "Duhr," because it's expensive as hell. Or rather was expensive as hell. Had it released at $90-$100 like it is now I doubt it would've done as well.
Horus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:56
Horus
Hell yeah! I cant wait for more DJ hero!
MiOdd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 14:57
MiOdd
@ mi55ter

I'm guessing you haven't actually played DJ Hero? Have you? The game was great and played nothing like any previous music game I've ever experienced.
volcatus37's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 15:30
volcatus37
Lacked ips? What about Borderlands, inFamous, Demon's Souls, Dragon Age: Origins, DJ Hero, Brutal Legend, Prototype etc. It was the year of the sequel, but that doesn't mean there weren't a lot of new ips.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 15:42
Videodrone31
@Xzyliac

are those the valiums I gave you?:)
ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 15:46
ran24
weren't they bitching that DJ hero wasn't making that much money?
absolofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 15:51
absolofdoom
Maybe Activision is a very annoying company (it is), but DJ Hero is a really fun game, and the best thing about music games is the insane replay value.
MCChampaignMillionaire's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 16:08
MCChampaignMillionaire
I really like this game
Red Priest Rezo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 16:28
Red Priest Rezo
Demon's Souls
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