And so the cull begins ...
Infinity Ward has begun to swing its giant, bloodstained scythe across the undedicated Modern Warfare 2 servers, striking down those stupid enough to try and cheat. This is one of the reasons given by Infinity Ward for moving away from dedicated servers and adopting a peer-to-peer model. At least this justification is one that seems to be sincere.
"Top men are on it," claims IW's very own Mouth of Sauron, Robert Bowling. "In fact, the Steam ban hammer is coming down on about 2,500 confirmed MW2 cheaters on PC today."
Modern Warfare 2 PC saw a fair number of hacks littering the servers after launch. Unlimited ammo, XP boosts and more were giving sneaky players an edge over their more honest counterparts. Of course, anybody cheating on the IW.net service is clearly some sort of moronic dipsh*t. Seriously, how did anybody not expect to see this coming a mile away?
Stupid hackers are stupid.
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At least, that's the main way IW (or VAC or whoever did the banning here) probably got them.
Dedicated servers would've solved this problem fully at the day of release by just banning every single cheater from their servers.
Anyway, there are at least like 50000 people playing the game illegally (saw a screenshot showing the difference between steam and in-game numbers) shows that this small reduction doesn't mean shit.
The only potentinal way to get rid of cheats is streaming-games.
Can't stand the consept tough...
Why cheat? Do you not like the game as is? Do you want some game where you're a god with a gun, blasting everyone willy nilly without a care in the world, with no challenge or risk of dying?
Or are you somehow proud of your cheated position on the rankings?
Or do you just like to irritate the shit out of legitimate players?
I just don't see the appeal?!?!
Was it worth it?
I'm disappointed in you jim. The reason you give has nothing to do with it.
if dedicated servers were the problem then games like counter strike and team fortress would be unplayable. dedicated servers are abel to handle cheaters perfectly fine.
Not all PC gamers are cheaters, nor does cheating apply only to PC gaming. (Sorry if I misinterpreted your post, but it sounded like that was what you were trying to imply)
I've ran into many cheaters on TF2 for Xbox when I played it for only a few hours, and on TF2 for PC I've played almost 1000 hours now and have never ran into a cheater.
Why do *I* disappoint you? I'm just telling you what Infinity Ward said. I never promised IW.net would deal with cheaters.
btw,WHO THE FUCK IS JIM SSSSSSSSSSTERRRRLINNNNNG?
As someone who is guilty of griefing, I can say it is incredibly fun to grief (rarely and only with strangers). However, I cannot understand when people take it to the next level, and actually start cheating. It just sucks. You are not backstabbing anyone for teh lulz, you are making a game unplayable for some people you don't even know. Dicks.
Top Men indeed
@Sammich - Everyone has greifed a little in the past, I'm the occasional revenge greifer, "you caught me with that last grenade, I know it was accidental, but here's a back of the head teamkill shot, just to remind you to be more careful."
But cheating? Like in previous CoD games, there will be a fucking que at the broken corner of the map, everyone on their bellies trying to get to that spot under the map where you simply sit and shoot people through the floor.
I don't understand that shit, i mean how much fun can it be? where's the challenge?
Also, old CoD games again, people hovering in the sky? Why? I simply shoot the little black man shape on the light blue sky, in the fucking head and I score a headshot, you score the satisfaction of knowing that uh, you were in the sky?
Why bother?
I feel online games are similar to sports, with all players / teams having no advantages, a level playing field or a test of skill. It wouldn't be right if a baseball plaey came out with a tennis racket or if a football player came onto the pitch in a tank......
"At least this justification is one that seems to be sincere."
It sounds like you are saying that the justification for the switch from dedicated to peer-to-peer is being shown to be positive. Although, I may be wrong because I don't really understand you saying it was "sincere." I think that sentence is bit too confusing for accurate interpretation.
Plus this is only catching out people who are using easily trackable apps. There's people still aimbotting and that on TF2 who haven't been banned, and I know one who's been aimbotting since the start of the year. Nothing.
I really don't see the point in it though. Isn't it like "Super-Guide"'ing, where you're the only one able to do it?
I did buy MW2 for PC, and I do enjoy matchmaking more than dedicated servers and like it more than COD4 in general, but the game has flaws and IW saying that this is a 'better' anticheat system is bullshit. Especially when I saw someone evade these bans only last night, after this supposed ban wave.
"I fail to see how MW2 handles this better than COD4"
You're absolutely right. It doesn't handle it any better at all.
I'm guessing most of these "hacks" are the simple hack it takes to unlock level 70 prestige, too.
First thing I thought, too. I chuckle anytime I hear or read someone say they have top men working on anything.
Moving away from dedicated servers and onto VAC won't keep cheaters down - the reason it works so great in games like Counter-Strike is that you've got admins of those dedicated servers banning every cheater in sight way before the official system kicks in. VAC uses a delayed system that isn't suited for being the first and only defense against cheaters, which MW2 players are sure to have learned by now.
Dedicated Servers 101: Admins are patrolling the servers looking for hackers, and care about their individual servers. VAC is like waiting for Infinity Ward to care.
:sympathy clap:
Stupid editors are stupid.
I thought everyone knew already that this was just a false excuse to use peer-to-peer. There is no way it could ever even be close to having admins to kick or ban cheaters. Furthermore, admins can also kick users who engage in extremely annoying behavior like constant swearing, intentionally being annoying, spawn camping, and camping in places that players are clearly not meant to be at. As I've noticed on XBL, this behavior happens A LOT if there's no one to punish them.
...or you could go to servers where everyone does this and more, if you're into that kind of thing.
Personally I don't know the first difference between dedicated servers and otherwise, but a ton of ye seem to be saying that because hacking on a dedicated server is banable, thanks to secondary precautions, the fact that IW have banned hackers on their server does not prove sincere one of their reasons for parting from dedicated servers.
Worse still, some of you are making piss poor attempts at trolling Jim. Even if you can't show the man some fucking respect, at least try to be devious or creative in your mischief, rather than this mundane everyday bullshit that not even your fellow trolls can respect. For shame, lads!
It's not like all of valves games that feature dedicated servers and custom modding and everything use VAC, no.
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