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1337: Microsoft, Nvidia, AMD and Intel forming PC Gaming Alliance, Voltron
1337: Microsoft, Nvidia, AMD and Intel forming PC Gaming Alliance, Voltron screenshot
Hamza CTZ Aziz
\\ 02.13.2008
84 comments

According to a San Jose Mecury News writer, Microsoft, Intel, Nvidia, AMD and others will be making an announcement at GDC next week that they will all be forming a "PC Gaming Alliance". The goal here is to revive the PC gaming industry and make it more competitive against the console industry, which in turn would hopefully get more developers to bring games onto the PC.

This along with the recent Ageia take over by Nvidia really shows that these companies mean serious business. Granted, Microsoft is going to win either way here. You PC gamers excited to hear that you haven't been forgotten about?  

[Via DevelopMag



84 COMMENTS, LATEST BY Amon
Ok, first of all most of you need to think of what a console really is and what it striving to be. Basically a console is nothing more than a basic computer, not allowing you to do anything other... -    view discussion




There are 84 comments about this post:
Sadie G's Avatar
<3 Great Voltron reference :)
Samit Sarkar's Avatar
Oh, man...that is one of the greatest header images (and captions) in recent memory.

WHY PENIS WHY???
big filth's Avatar
they still make games on PC's?

;)
Crunshii's Avatar
Holy !@$%!
Eschatos's Avatar
I'll be happy when they make Halo 3 for PC. Until then, I'm apprehensive.
SourGr8pes's Avatar
I was hoping that I would be the penis...
Spykron's Avatar
i love pc games but id really rather just have full keyboard and mouse support for my 360. i treat my consoles and tv as if they were a PC and monitor anyway.
Neonie's Avatar
I'm a foot?
MmhmBeer's Avatar
I don't think anything is going to save PC gaming until they start making it a little be more accessible on the monetary side. I mean think about how much you have to spend these days to have a rig that is capable of running most new games the way they are meant to fps wise and beyond.
njsykora's Avatar
Mean business? Try running scared. Crysis may have done more harm than good to PC gaming.
Wookiee's Avatar
NOOOOOOO! Nvidia, how could you!? Getting together with those loosers?!
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar
PC Twin powers activate! Form of an adventure game.
CaffeinePowered's Avatar
Ah, good to see. PC gaming always has and always will be top tier, the only people that don't like it are those who either don't have the money to blow on an alienware or the knowledge to put together a gaming box for the same price as a PS3.
Evil Cheese's Avatar
What?! I don't want to be the ditsy blond princess! I wanna be the red one!!! I'm not playing unless I get to be the red one!!!! *pout*
fps_ted's Avatar
Nvidia plus AMD? AMD = ATI... ATI and Nvidia would never team up.. Unless... Microsoft buys out both of them!
Aertyr's Avatar
Another reason why PC gaming will inevitably win the good fight. PC I love you. *Cuddles with Tower*
njsykora's Avatar
@CaffienePowered

I can build a PC, I don't do it because nothing is released on the PC these days that isn't done better on the consoles. Seemingly as always, the killer blow is struck by a Penny Arcade comic from last week.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/06

Simply put, why would you go through all the bulls**t of installing a game and finding drivers when you have something that will do it right away?

Unless its made by Introversion of course.
Polish Hill's Avatar
@njsykora

While I agree with console over PC for the most part that comic isn't about PC's at all. The DMC4 for PS3 installs itself onto your hard drive. So yea....kind of a stretch to use that comic even though it does have a lot of the same sentiments.
Drift64's Avatar
This is good news! The reason I do pc gaming is online is easy and free and the mods are what make them best as well. Also, pc version of the same game is cheaper than the console version.
Tragic Hero's Avatar
Back then you could make the argument that consoles were more thrifty but now you are paying 500+ for a system that might RROD or fail in some other way. Consoles are becoming more expensive and are becoming more faulty. FYI: Gaming PCs are about 1000 and run most games really well.
Dan CiTi's Avatar
Epic win.
dyslixec's Avatar
I am quite happy they are at least giving their attention back to the PC market :D, pc gaming will never die, nor will it be lower than the rest. And it really isn't right now either, the NPD doesn't track digital / subscription sales and that is a huge chunk of the PC gaming market, especially through valve's steam program. Just try to comprehend how many people are buying all of those damn games through steam these days.. and there are a SHIT load of games on steam now.

Another thing is, its hard to really compare 'consoles' to 'pc' in terms of sales.. consoles are multiple platforms and the pc is just one platform. Sales for PC games are all put together as one, where as sales from consoles come from every single console. So you can have Game A) sold on PC - and get its numbers from there.. but then you have Game B) which was purchased on console 1, console 2, console 3, and handheld 1 and 2. And they put those together with the 'console market' group. So ofcourse its going to seem consoles are 'dominating' and pc's are dieing but that really isn't the case at all.
manasteel88's Avatar
I'm glad that these Voltron-esque lions are joining together to form something great...but I own an xbox 360 not a gaming PC so I want MS to focus on that instead of a PC game. But hopefully the standard ports will be there so I can have my cake and eat it to.

Gotta say though that the Voltron reference is fantastic...kudos
Sadie G's Avatar
....good point so that means AMD is a cheating wench :/
Poor ATI will have it's heart broken and so close to Valentine's Day too...
infinity's Avatar
@fps_ted

BLASPHEMY!
Hells_666's Avatar
Consoles will eventually win !!!!

Sorry but i think that ONE machine that never needs upgrades will always win over a machine that has bugs, conficts and patchs to fix your version.

Also computer games are sooooo much easier to copy. No modchip needed and i think THAT really hurts pc gamming. Activision even said soo when they saw all the pirated version of call of duty connecting to their servers.

Even thought i think that PC gamming IS better because it soo versatile and you don't need to buy the machine from a company to play those games.... i think that the need to always UPGRADE and the "update your drivers and find the patch" is getting old. I was a pc gamer about 10 years back but i got tired of looking for answers on forums......

I like to just buy a game, put it in the cd tray and press play and not have to worry is my video card is strong enough and what graphics settings should i pick to have the best experience !!!!

PLUG AND PLAY !!!!! EASY = BETTER
ghnvt's Avatar
Why do you call yourself VOLTRON....Umm, because it is super bad ass.

LAWL, Hot Rod Rulez!!!!1!
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar
It won't work. No, it will fail because the very market of personal computing isn't with it. It'll fall short of everything.

But even the token of it is nice. If AMD and its biggest competitors all have enough cojones to pal up and try to save... er, themselves - then, while it certainly won't save it, it should make the passing of PC gaming "as comfortable as possible".
The-Excel's Avatar
Next thing you know Nintendo, Sega and Namco are going to co-develop a new arcade board.
Crunshii's Avatar
I wished arcades could be revived... It falling into extinction category right next to the DoDo.

PC gaming will always be there for CC, MMOs, Starcraft, Diablo ect... But NCsoft wants to change that trend...
Cheeburga's Avatar
Affordable PC partz?
sexycommando's Avatar
Note that these are mostly hardware manufacturers. Microsoft is the only software-side corporation in this Voltron Alliance (not sure what Penis is though, I think it can be hard or soft).

I'm not exactly sure what a bunch of PC gaming hardware manufacturers can do except lower their prices and pressure OEMs to be more price competitive with consoles. I mean, if they are trying to compete with consoles, they are aiming at consumers who will buy a Dell gaming machine, not build their own.

I mean, what else can they do on their own without game publishers helping out? They should have at least added Steam and Blizzard to the alliance, basically the only two companies that are keeping PC gaming alive.
DGX Goggles's Avatar
An alliance that breaks the norms of logic? Is dat sum Tengen Toppa?
Barcode's Avatar
Either way - we WIN.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar
One the one hand, teh PC gamer snob in me says that PC gaming needs no revival, and Microsoft is the fucking LAST company on Earth to lead such an endevour. On the other hand, the realistic, rational side of me realizes that these big of companies, especially MS and Intel, CAN actually make progress on pushing publishers to cross platform port.
Eh.
I guess I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best.
unangbangkay's Avatar
PC gaming was never "gone". It just needed an influx of super-titles that tell console mouth-breathers what platform they're whining from.
taumpytears's Avatar
Voltron is relevant to all of my interests.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar
@Caffeine

Or maybe people just don't like PC gaming, maybe they enjoy sitting down in front of a big HD with a controller, maybe they don't care to spend a lot of money on a gaming rig when a $300 dollar console does the same thing(all PC gaming gets is better graphics, controls is subjective).

Or maybe people just want variety in their games, what's been the big releases for the PC so far, shooters and a single RPG, what's next for the PC? And RTS game and more shooters.

Let me guess, you're one of those guys that looks down on console owners because we play inferior versions of games?

PC gaming is bottom tier my friend, its never gonna die don't get me wrong but it will never reach the lofty heights it had in the 90's.
vexed alex's Avatar
That picture is awesome on so many levels.
Imako's Avatar
I'm fine with it so long as they don't make all the new games vista only...also, AMD?!?
dtomek's Avatar
I don't buy games to play them, I buy them to wrangle with them and make em work. PC fer life.
Murder64's Avatar
PC games are so easy to pirate, I don't see why they keep trying so hard.
mistic's Avatar
so in a few years we'll have the PC-console? where you'll be unable to 'choose' your hardware since 'Voltron' ( ow yeah ) has decided what should be the default PC-configuration for everybody and 'The gaming PC' will be degraded to a console with mouse and keyboard running a crummy OS that you can use to type letters/surf myspace with...

and you'll have to buy a new PC every year to be able to run the newest games since the 'new generation grafix chip' will be incompatible with 'last-gen hardware'...

I live in Belgium where there's basicly only 2 broadband-providers and they work together to keep prices jacked WAY up ( 8Mbps downstream with 10Gb limit/month costs you about 45/50 € ( 50/60$) ), if intel, nvidia and amd (ati) are going to work together there's 2 ways it can go, or it stays as it is where you have to buy a new GPU every 4 months if you want to stay 'top-of-the-line' and able to play ANYTHING that comes out, or they will slow the 'product-cycles' down ( they'll all be working together, so why would they try to hurt eachother by creating something that is WAY superior? ), and then instead of having to get a new system every 4 months like you guys do now, you can get a new one every year or so, while we just keep on buying new systems once every 5/7 years, while spending all that money that you are pouring down the drain on keeping your PC up-to-date on nice games for our consoles...

plus we'll be playing on 37" HDTV's versus you playing on 17"/19" screens, while we lay back in our comfortable seating arrangements and you bend over your desk...

damn I love gaming on consoles...
Triphoppin's Avatar
about time, thank goodness!!!! great pic too
crunks's Avatar
Microsoft cannibalizing their own console business?
SanityMask's Avatar
alright I see alot of bullshit here. Point is, The mouse & keyboard is stronger than the pad.

every single games that are released on consoles can be released on a PC. which can support even those pads you're so fond of, ffs it can even use the wiimote.
unless consoles showed greater compatibility to PC working hardware, I'd be reconsidering.

All in all, whatever your PStriple does, PC does better. as far as I know, current consoles don't even support directX10 there goes your eye candy.

Vista is a huge steaming pile of shit though
Sharpless's Avatar
Dude, you should've gone with Devastator, instead of Voltron. Voltron is nothing in comparison.

mistic's Avatar
@Sanitymask:

alright I see alot of bullshit here. Point is, The mouse & keyboard is stronger than the pad.
well I don't think so, I'll agree with you that it has a higher precision in FPS/strategy games, but I'll beat anyone in a racing/fighting/sports-game with a controller over a keyboard...

Also as mentioned in my previous reply, the keyboard+mouse just is not a comfortable way to play games compared to a gamepad...

at first I wasn't convinced about playing FPS on consoles either but eventually the feeling of comfort and a screen that's at least twice as big as my PC-screen won over the 'feeling' of precision...

gaming is my hobby, as in what I do in my spare time, I work on PC's at work the whole time and I thank god that I can just come home, throw myself in a comfortable seat and just play within the next minute ( contrary to having to boot my PC into a horribly slow OS ( compared to Linux/MacOsX ), thus also making it vulnerable to any 14-year-old script-kiddie in this world... and then having to start the game)
MrEeeds's Avatar
Sharpless-you are my new hero. Devastator rules!! Yup, PC gaming can get silly-patches, drivers, upgrades, etc..and I wouldn't have it any other way. Just old school I guess.
Ratcliff's Avatar
What the hell, I'm the BLUE lion? The one piloted by a chick?
Ratcliff's Avatar
What the hell, I'm the BLUE lion? The one piloted by a chick?
thrillhouse's Avatar
Hopefully this alliance convinces developers to program more efficiently when porting console games to PC. The Assassin's Creed system specs are horrible. They also need to address the cost issue. The "I need to spend 2K on my computer to run the best games at 60 fps" is a total myth.
MechaMonkey's Avatar
angusm's Avatar
God I hope they're not full of shit.
Hey Microsoft, pro tip: port a buncha the 360 exclusives to PC, AT LEAST your first party shit, and get on that live anywhere 360 vs. PC shit for fuck's sake.
Elrando's Avatar
*Insert predictions for next Xbox here.

Also, Why Penis Why?
Im OK's Avatar
PC vs Consoles? Why yes, I do believe I smell some Internet all up in here.

Yeah, as fps_ted and others have said, nVidia + AMD/ATI just seems weird, almost "Sonic and Mario in the same game?! WTF?" weird.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar
The concept that PCs get nothing but shooters and RTS's is fucking hilarious. So is the claim that you need an insanely expensive computer to play anything. RIGHT NOW you can walk into Walmart and get a PC for $400 that out of the box will play every single modern PC Game. For the cost of a $150 video card it can play everything perfectly fine, as well.
The concept that PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming died with the PS3.

Secondary lols go out to the claim that all PC monitors are non-HD 17 to 19 inch deals.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014158
This thing kicks the shit out of my TV.
WDot's Avatar
Why are people claiming that PC gaming is worse because of the need for patches? If I recall correctly, ALL the modern consoles get patches now. And then people are ASKING for patches for the 360 TF2. Patches in themselves are not bad, especially if they add new content and features.

My only hope is that this "alliance" focuses on encouraging developers to write more efficient games that require less hardware. People look at Assassin's Creed and go "See? See? PC gaming is expensive," conveniently forgetting that you can run the Orange box on a toaster. RAM is cheap enough to give out at Halloween (You can get a GOOD 2GB kit for $40). AMD dominates the budget processor realm with great deals right now, and both nVidia and ATI have cards that run games decently for cheap. There is no good card for Crysis yet, but most games aren't Crysis.
Big Z's Avatar
...and I'll form the head! I feel that trying to argue PC versus Console is like trying to argue Pear versus Orange. Both are fruit, both are good for you, both taste differently. Just enjoy them separately and for what they are.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar
Its good that MS are looking to address the pc problem, but PC is as much its own enemy as it is its best friend. One one hand its the hub of pro/indie game development, gaming and web surfing, and on the other its the route of piracy, keeping up with the Jones' annoying hardware/software problems etc.

I get that keyboard and mouse are good for some games, but those games are but a small portion of genres that consoles can do easily, and more besides. I've enjoyed a lot of PC gaming in the past, but the likes of hardware developers rule its castle, have killed it for me. This leaves them building a lofty hardware race that many of us can't bother with.

Consoles will always trump PCs, because their priority is games. Not hardware or software etc, games.

Hey PC gamers, come back and tell me how SSF2THD is on PC. Oh year, you guys aren't getting it (let alone any beat em ups). The reason behind this is PCs lack of solid 360 control pad support, something MS should be pushing more on PC, next to this alliance (I'll be watching to see if they do). Only then will PC gaming begging to thrive more next to consoles.
WDot's Avatar
Cowboy TTop: To be fair, with the free version of Gametap you can play Street Fighter 2, as well as Darkstalkers and several other fighting games. With the paid version, you have access to an even bigger array of arcade fighters. I personally own a PC gamepad, and if a PC gamer wants a good one (even a 360 controller for the PC) it's not hard to find.

I'm not going to claim that the PC can play every title that the 360 can, but the 360 has less exclusives than some might like. Let's face it, I can play CoD4, Orange Box, Sega Rally Revo, Bioshock, GRAW 1 and 2, Gears of War, Roboblitz, Lego Star Wars, Oblivion, Rainbow Six Vegas, Stranglehold, Kane and Lynch (for better or worse), and soon Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect all on PC as well as the 360. Those are just the ones I remember. Some of those games are well ported and others aren't, but it's safe to say the PC isn't quite left in the dark.

I don't want to argue (even though it might not seem like it), I just can't stand it when people hate on PC gaming based on uninformed opinions.
foxhound009's Avatar
YESSSS!!!!
Cutie Honey's Avatar
A weeaboo thing but... It ain't Voltron, IT'S GO-LION! ZIMPAN!
mrelusive's Avatar
Oh boy, I love reading comments like this (not really).

It's like console fans have to constantly convince themselves that they have the superior platform every time an article about PC gaming shows up. Hey, if you like your console, why don't you just play it and stop throwing out 15-year old myths around? I mean, that's what PC gamers do. Play games. But from time to time we have to debunk the FUD that gets spread over the tubes.

What kind of FUD?

PC gaming is expensive: Yes and no. I've seen the good ol' "OMFG YOU NEED A $2000 MACHINE TO PLAY CRYSIS ON MEDIUM!" rant thrown out a lot. I just built a $800 machine (with some mild OC) a few weeks ago that runs Crysis on high with 40+ FPS, and that's not counting with the fabricated ingame benchmark. Obviously the cost is more than todays consoles, but it also a far cry (yay puns) from the $2000, or even $1000 (if you know where to luck) figure people throw out. Don't want to build it yourself? Add +$50-$75 for a local/small computer shop to make it for you.

PC gaming requires patches: Xbox Dashboard and game updates, Wii firmware updates, PS3 system software updates. WTF DO YOU THINK THESE ARE?! Newsflash: OSes and games are not pristine and perfect out of the box on any platform, including consoles. To slam PCs alone for this reason is petty. Installing patches and drivers on PC is a rather painless endeavour.

PC gaming is just shooters and WoW: I'm guessing the people who spew this out are regulars at GameStop that don't bother to give the time to look at "the other shelf". I would list all the non-shooter and non-MMO games I've played this year, but I know someone would throw a "but there's still more shooters!" line regardless. Let's just say that the FUD in question is false, especially when you add non-retail games into the equation.

My ran may seem a bit aggressive. But I just woke up and this was the first thing that popped up from my feed reader, and obviously my blood boils a bit when people spread misinformed "facts" about one of my hobbies around.

Oh, happy Valentine's Day! Remember to shower your console with chocolates, flowers and kisses.
matmanx1's Avatar
+100 points for Dtoid for the Voltron reference. +1000 points for the reference to Voltron's penis in the same image. Well done, sirs. Well done.
Professor Pew's Avatar
Devastator will destroy Voltron.
DryvBy's Avatar
I didn't know PC gaming was dead. Maybe it's only "dying" because ya know, it's easier to make games for console gamers. All you need is 1 cup achievement points and 1/2 cup of any decent gameplay, mix together with some horse crap graphics with a max of 30fps and you have yourself a high selling game. Don't forget to market it well by paying for ads everywhere, and then paying review companies to advertise they hype by using words "revolutionary" on a game like Halo 3. Yeah, that's directed towards you, GameSpot. Bunch of idiots.
Tragic Hero's Avatar
Dryvby and MrElusive FTW

Seriously, a gaming PC costs about 1000 and a Xbox360 cost around 500+ when released. For 500 dollars more you get so much more power how is that a bad deal? And my PC isn't ever going to RROD on me and if something does go wrong with it I can just fix it myself. Can any of you open your Xbox360 and fix it?
Navarre's Avatar
Is 'penis'? a meme now?
Snaileb 's Avatar
So many comments... what forms blazing sword?!
Urashima's Avatar
ACTIVATE INTERLOCKS!
DYNOTHERMS CONNECTED!
MEGATHRUSTERS ARE GO!
martinine's Avatar
Glorious Graphics
digitaldemigod's Avatar
Funny... Microsoft is a lot of the reason that PC gaming is dying. I for one have given up playing PC games even though I just got a top of the line gaming rig. I prefer to play on the 360 because I'm an achievement whore and because of Live. (and not having to spend 6 hours patching games or stupid ass copy protection on the games that whines about me having Nero installed on my system...)
deanhatescoffee's Avatar
GOD FUCKING BLESS VOLTRON!

"And I'll form the head!" Oh, my head's formed alright...
supernintendoh's Avatar
Go PC gaming..............Yay.

I hate the fact i have to upgrade and upgrade and soon Bam!!!!!!! Iam out of catch and my freaking PC is like obsolete in a matter of minutes.

I Love PC gaming because in so many ways, alot of old PC games still look better and are alot more fun than todays consoles.......Mass Effect on PC.....HIP HIP.....HURRAY.

Can i Run it....Hip Hip Hip......Ummmmmm Nooooooooo Probably Not. Yay.

PS. Voltron Rules.
supernintendoh's Avatar
Sorry i cant ever Spell right..... I meant Cash....not catch

Iam so Retarded...Duh!!!
MrPeenie's Avatar
Im a PC gamer :D
brainderailment's Avatar
Microsoft needs to stop using gaming as a way to force people to switch to vista. This alliance could mean better games to come to the pc, but if the gamers don't buy them (like what's happening now) the publishers will not invest in pc gaming.
Cubilone's Avatar
Wait... Microsoft wants to help revive the PC gaming industry in the expense of... something's not right here!
Knives's Avatar
I bet they're only gonna say something like "we are working together and have some strategies" and it will all be the same.
Crumpet Lips's Avatar
Thats fair bullshit considering they don't let potential gaming developers break into the industry. These days you need a walls worth of certifications just to be a bloody grass texture artist!

XNA Studios was a good idea but many people forget to read the fine print at the bottom of Microsoft's contract and the use of XNA. Sure you can make games and go to sell them later on, but Microsoft OWN your idea, they own every other idea you think of from then on after that is game related (sounds like Warner Bros).

It will be good to see what happens with this new Devastator Alliance
slapme7times's Avatar
lol... microsoft has been working it's very hardest to destroy pc gaming :)

xbl brought online gaming en masse to consoles with things like universal friendslists...

it brought consoles into the high def era, directly competing with pc's.

it released dx10, which looks the exact same as dx 9 and is vista only, even though crysis in dx10 will action run on xp?

it released windows vista, which sucks performance wise for gaming...

It stole halo, bioshock, etc, that would have been pc exclusive games that were neutered to run on consoles.

seriously =) we'll see what happens, but all that really needs to happen is for the price of pc components to drop 75%, making it cost the same to build a console as build a new pc, given you have to build a new fucking pc every year just to keep up with the planned obsolescence strategy held by nvidia, amd, microsoft and intel themselves.
Fading_Star's Avatar
Awesome?
Amon's Avatar
Ok, first of all most of you need to think of what a console really is and what it striving to be. Basically a console is nothing more than a basic computer, not allowing you to do anything other than play games. Secondly no matter what eventually a console will be a pc, sure it may not have different programs like word and exel, but it will be just a gaming pc. I don't know about most but i like being able to get on my pc and do what ever i want to it change what i want and make games or anything else i want. Can your console do that? NO! Besides pc gaming will never die because of 2 things. PC's will always be around. And 2 how the F! do you think you get your console games? thats right big shocker they are made and tested on a PC first so naturally why not go ahead and make them for both? besides anyone who likes having more brains and freedom in a game knows that consoles are promoting the down fall in children today.

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