i own all current gen consoles but personally i have grown to hate my xbox, 3 red rings in 2 years and one of them took 3 months to get replaced hence i started using my ps3 more and more i cant say i see much of a deference in quality of online service they seem equal atm but as far as quality control on the console itself well you get my point

Maybe - 1 mil due to RROD? The thing has like a 78% chance to fail.

It would be a sad thing for them if they were behind Sony by a year in service - since they released a year earlier.

@Nitex

"The thing has like a 78% chance to fail."

Did you find that figure in fanboys monthly? ^^

That's a lot of 360s. It's good to see that Europe is doing their part to support the industry.

Ironically didn't they just ban about a million members allegedly? Nice.

Given enough time, everything has a fail-rate of 100%. The 360 just seems to get to that point a hell of a lot faster than every system out there short of the Jaguar CD.

@ Electrium
But without console wars, we'd have no system-selling first-party titles. Do you think Uncharted 2 would have been nearly as good as it was if Sony had this race in the bag? Without console wars, there's no reason to excel. It's why I've always had a fascination with whoever is losing the race (well, within reason) - they tend to pull out all the stops.

How the fuck do you measure quality in units of time? 12 to 18 months ahead? The fuck that even mean?

PSN doesn't have the same focus or sense of community. It's still bloody good for a free service, but it aint as good as live, thems just the facts as they seem to me. No fucker seems to want to talk on PSN - PS3 needs to bundle headsets, man. MAG will definitely have to bundle headsets. Teamwork is fail without headsets. Teamwork is much rarer in the PSN games I've played over the LIVE, but that could just be coincidence, I guess.

Every console is a work in progress. IMO, Sony's PS3 has been in that state for more or less past 3 years and it still suffers on the slow growth. 360's success despite the RROD comes from a focused business model. Imagine if MS comes up with 720 with BD today, it will choke PS3 profit margin even more. It's too bad Microsoft probably can't pull the 720 miracle due to all the money wasted on the RROD support. Most companies would have been out of business with RROD by now. If 360 didn't get the bad rep on RROD, it would have been the definitive success. In this rate, I think Sony will come up with PS3.5 or PS4 before Microsoft. CELL is powerful, but the GPU and memory on PS3 is still big joke. Maybe allowing Nvidia to develop new chipset with physix's support may not be a bad idea. Now, nintendon't....I don't know what to tell you.

I'm with Fission Mailed, are we now going to start saying XBL has about 7 kilometers more fun available? What the fuck is time when comparing online services?