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This thread is currently doing the rounds among the usual social networks, and I felt I had to share. Posted to the "Men Going Their Own Way" forum (so you already know it's comedy gold), a thread called "WTF is with empowered women in video games now?" is basically the Holy Grail of privileged, entitled, manbaby gamers. 

One particularly enlightening comment was about the famously awful Velvet Assassin: "A game where a woman skulks in the shadows before slitting the throats of men, or alternately stabbing them in the heart or in the back? finally, some realism."

Meanwhile, the first truly positive post is by someone saying he likes Samus Aran because he can forget she's a woman. 

In all honesty, it's hard to pick a favorite among these threatened, frightened monkeys. There's the guy who says Gears of War 3 was almost ruined for him because you're forced to play a female character for a few minutes, and who could forget the guy who only likes Sarah Connor in The Terminator because she started off helpless and relying on a male?

Make sure to pick your favorite, that's if the forum can keep online (cached version). Apparently a collection of big, strong men cannot maintain a site that withstands moderate traffic spikes. I guess not being able to "keep it up" explains a lot of their issues. 

Here are my top posts, anyway. The original, ironically brilliant, post. Not even Podtoid gets this offensive: 

I am starting this thread because I see a new trend in the video/computer game world and that is the increase in strong playable female characters. 

Now, I am no hardcore gamer but I do play computer games often and the recent one I have been playing recently is Shogun 2 total war. Now for those who don't know what this game is, it is a strategy game based on the military of feudal Japan. I recently bought an upgrade for the game the other day and guess what one of the strongest military units was? Nuns. I shit you not. The nuns had an attack 20% -40% higher than most units in the game. Somehow I doubt that in real life a nun would have swung a sword or used a spear faster and harder than a feudal warlord, and this game was based on history. 

I think I have the right to ask steam and other gaming companes: WTF with the subliminal brainwashing? What now when I buy or play a game women will be doing all the ass kicking? I seen some similiar patterns on the game advertisements on television and the internet recently and want to know if anyone else is seeing the pattern?

I call bullshit on this subject. Video games are the last place for guys to hang out and now women are taking over. Why not just save us the trouble and instead of eliminating our fantasy world just throw us in work camp to provide for thier bastard children (literally speaking) while they shit all over us...wait they already do that. 

It's pretty alarming how many of these guys are terrified of the idea that a woman might be physically more able than them, or not need to rely on a man's assistance. Oh, and if you want to play a female character? You need to stake a strength and intelligence penalty:

I've noticed this too, and it drives me insane. Was co-oping Gears 3 last month and there's a point where 2nd player has to take over a female character. Almost ruined the game for me. It may seem minor, but once you're aware of this type of brainwashing it's impossible to ignore. There's no way a slim female could keep up with the massive battle-hardened male Gears in that kind of environment. They would be a liability as they are in real life combat.

You'll see the same thing in most stat-based role-playing games as well, where you have the option of a female player character - like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, D&D, etc. The women never have any strength or intelligence penalties compared to the males - the only difference being female looks and occasional dialogue alterations. They want to give the impression that people of any race, gender, and sexual-orientation are interchangeable - that there are no differences in ability between them, and that only a bigot could think otherwise. I'm sick of it too.

Okay, one more personal pick. I'd love to see this man pick a fight with a female soldier -- you know, like the ones we have in real life:

It would be hilarious to portray the female characters realistically. If you chose the female character in your FPS she would have to move very slowly, dragging the gun around. You could build in some extra shake to the crosshairs to represent hopeless accuracy. Every time you needed to reload your gun, instead of just pressing a button, you'd have to find a male character and go through some flirting dialogue options to persuade him to do it for you. One out of every four missions the game would tell you that you were sitting out this one due to 'women's issues'.








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Mark Mann's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:19
Mark Mann
WE SPONGEBAB NOW!

123ericn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:19
123ericn
um ok i guess this is kinda cool ... whatever helps u sleep at night with ur self jim
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:20
Chris Carter
Lol just terrible.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:21
Kraid
As a mangina, this is both hilarious and sad.

This was the best one:

"Also, I think female game characters serve as a kind of sexual wish fulfillment for nice guy/mangina gamers who may not be able to get any in real life."
sindremaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:22
sindremaster
"You'll see the same thing in most stat-based role-playing games as well, where you have the option of a female player character - like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, D&D, etc. The women never have any strength or intelligence penalties compared to the males - the only difference being female looks and occasional dialogue alterations. They want to give the impression that people of any race, gender, and sexual-orientation are interchangeable - that there are no differences in ability between them, and that only a bigot could think otherwise. I'm sick of it too."
This is a comment so great, I'm surprised I didn't hear it on Podtoid.
hushlorentz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:23
hushlorentz
Women amirite?
rexwolf2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:23
rexwolf2
The header image is perfection.
codythedragondude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:23
codythedragondude
it aint sexisim if gay or lesbian love is aloud MASS EFFECT beat you ranters HA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
(no offence intended with this comment)
DreamingDarklyRobin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:23
DreamingDarklyRobin
Wow, that forum sounds a bit more terrible than Destructoid's.
N7's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:24
N7
I'd love to troll this but even I don't think I can wWebsite it. I like dicks too much to worry about females in gaming.
samwitsend's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:24
samwitsend
The post about women have strength and intelligence points docked in RPG games blew my mind...
Mechman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:24
Mechman
I love this forum, and all it contains.
LastFencer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:25
LastFencer
I suspect their machismo masks an inferiority complex. They're definitely overcompensating for something.
N7's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:26
N7
I take back the not trolling part... LOL Female Shepard, paaaleeeez
kidplus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:26
kidplus
By far the most interesting thing about this thread is the general idea that devs are "brainwashing" men with feminism (when did feminism=bad anyway?) while completely ignoring the sexist overtones in gaming. It's even scarier considering these aren't all 12 year old who know no better. A lot of them are old enough to have played games from the early 90s so they SHOULD know better.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:27
Jim Sterling
Guys I tried to have some rights and then found out I was a man and then I HAD NONE!

I IS MARTYR NAOW
Attackbaby's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:27
Attackbaby
So is this a website for extremely insecure men? the Gears of War post is by far the funniest
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:27
KingSigy
Was it necessary to share this?
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:27
The Silent Protagonist
Yeah, misogyny is dumb.

Seriously, what is it about playing a female character that's so bothersome. Is its some kind of internalized transphobia? Are they scared they might like running around as a woman.

I see it so often when we take time to oogle at female characters that "its just pixels" and that being the case, so if they're just pixels what's the problem playing one. Its just pixels.
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:29
Jamie McGinn
The best bit I've read so far is the suggested RPG stats for a "realistic female".

" STATS

-4 STR
-2 CON
-1 INT
-6 WIS
+8 CHA

SKILLS

-2 Intimidate
-4 Listen
+3 Sense Motive
-4 Survival
+10 Profession: Prostitute

Spell-like ability to cast create baby once every 9 months."

A-fucking-mazing.
N7's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:30
N7


Gaston the mutha fuckin alpha male assures you women can't.
sindremaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:30
sindremaster
"If we were being honest, D&D females should have the following modifiers:

STATS

-4 STR
-2 CON
-1 INT
-6 WIS
+8 CHA

SKILLS

-2 Intimidate
-4 Listen
+3 Sense Motive
-4 Survival
+10 Profession: Prostitute
Spell-like ability to cast create baby once every 9 months."
Because all women are prostitutes
Foggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:33
Foggle
Wow, this is... wow. Wow. What the fuck. Goddamn internet makes me lose more faith in humanity with each passing day...
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:33
Faux Furry
There are other places where guys can hang out while letting it all hang out in same sex company and I don't just mean the YMCA. No one has to wait for their turn with the controller because everyone has a joystick to play their massively multi-player games with there.
They would be better off doing that and leave all of the amazonian amusements to everyone else.

By the way, prior to Skyrim, females actually did have a strength penalty at the outset of Elder Scrolls games. To compensate, they had an intelligence bonus equal to the strength penalty.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:33
Jim Sterling
ACTION HANK! RAWR TO THE MEN!

jag82287's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:33
jag82287
Correct if I'm wrong but wasn't there gender penalties in Elder Scrolls not in Skyrim but I'm pretty sure in daggerfall and morrowind where females would have higher intelligence and lower strength and males would be the opposite.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:35
Jim Sterling
"Was it necessary to share this?"

This is a videogame blog. None of it's "necessary."
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:35
Jawmuncher
For me personally I don't get the complaints about the status of male and female protagonists nowadays.

If their to sexy it's offensive, if their to buff its offensive. I mean seriously I thought games were a escape from reality. I don't want to play as a regular joe in every game I play.

Remember the backlash over the red head in Revelations. How blown out of proportions was that. She died and is turned into a BOW. Yet multiple stories popped up about her. Like her as a sole character and design would ultimately doom the game.

I just don't get It
Armoured Badger's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:35
Armoured Badger
wow some people are just so bitter...

And stupid, nearly forgot that part.
DuckedUpOnQuack's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:36
DuckedUpOnQuack
I love how they don't get into specifically what it is that society is being "brainwashed" (a term I don't think they fully understand) into believing, or what ends are trying to be achieved via this brainwashing. People now realize that women exist outside of stereotypically prescribed roles... now feminists shall rule the world? Ugh. I don't understand the thought processes going on in these people's minds.

We're still on the road to achieving true gender equality anyway. And I don't think we'll ever achieve it. What makes me sad is when people go out of their way to try and feel persecuted or discriminated against. These people are like those few in the 1% crying about being attacked by the 99%.
fulldamage's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:36
fulldamage
I had to get the google cache of the page to actually see what was being posted. Kind of sorry I did. I'm not entirely sure these guys would actually be able to identify a real woman - you know, in the wild, off of the television screen. And I would not give a cracked nickel for their chances against any of the girls I've met who have been through boot camp or practiced martial arts.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:37
Stephen Beirne
Here's hoping that once these people see how they are ridiculed across the net, they'll cease voicing their absurd opinions.
Noir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:40
Noir
Personally my "favorite", I use that term lightly because technically I hate this misogyny bullshit, is the one about "Men With Tits". According to it strong, empowered women just LOOK like women. They actually have male personalities because they're strong and not asking for a man to save them.

On the other hand, the post that gives females "realistic" stats such as -4 strength, the skill of prostitution, and the ability to have babies is a good candidate for dick move of the year as well.

I hope somewhere out there the opposite of this exists in which women rant about how men in games aren't realistic. Just look at that Nathan Drake, how can a guy kill so many people and jump from rooftops without a scratch? UNREALISTIC! And what about that Gears of War? The guys from there look unrealistically muscular!
BenelliM4's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:43
BenelliM4
To quote a great many philosophers:

"Can't tell if trolling or just stupid."
FrutiValandil's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:45
FrutiValandil
Because videogames.
doewnskitty's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:45
doewnskitty
Now this feels like Something Awful.
dunnace's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:46
dunnace
"They want to give the impression that people of any race, gender, and sexual-orientation are interchangeable - that there are no differences in ability between them, and that only a bigot could think otherwise."

Yes. Yes they do. Now shut the fuck up you bigoted terrible man.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:47
mix
I found the needle in the haystack!

"Well, if female empowerment in games prevents escort missions where you protect some whining woman who keeps walking into walls, then I'm all for them."
crackerbitz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:47
crackerbitz
I tried to think of an equally offensive male character that would match the "realistic female character", but all I could think of was a male character whose response in every cutscene is "That's what she said." Any other ideas?
Levi Elwood Myers's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:51
Levi Elwood Myers
I personally don't mind having a strong, female lead... but I am sick of developers making them... well... "bitches" for lack of a better word. I have to deal with that enough in real life. I don't need to be reminded every time I play a video game. Is there such thing as a KIND woman lead in a video game? I mean... let me think for a second... we got... Samus(bitch), we have Lightning(super bitch), etc, etc. As I said, I'd just like to see a "cool" female protagonist, as in, to be a strong female lead they don't need to be a jerk to everyone around them.. Wait a sec, forgot about Jill from Resident Evil. She's awesome in my opinion, we need more protagonists like her.
Mafflez's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:51
Mafflez
Lol well Dtoid users, have more brains I hope and don't endlessly bitch about how a woman could kick their asses at video games, I seriously wanted to make a account just to troll them to death about HOW they lost their balls the last time they wanked to pokeporn O.o seriously THIS is why women don't want you manbabies.... -_- *pathetic*
doewnskitty's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:51
doewnskitty
@ crackerbitz

Techno Viking. All day long.
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:52
Max-


I'm doing this right...right?
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:52
koehler83
Wow, that is just sad.
Foggle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:53
Foggle
@crackerbitz

STATS

+30 STR
-10 CON
-10 INT
-10 WIS
-10 CHA

SKILLS

+8 Intimidate
-16 Listen
-50 Sense Motive
-1 Survival
+75% Alcohol Tolerance
+10 Activity: Drink beer/watch sports
Magic abilities: Burp/fart on command, date rape
BrainWasherAttendent's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/11/2012 17:53
BrainWasherAttendent
Um, who gives a shit?

Way to make gaming NOT FUN Jim!!!
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