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'Games cause rape' psychologist's book gets raped photo

Carol Lieberman, the psychologist and author who claimed that videogames encourage young men to go out and rape has been hit with swift Internet justice. In a move that mirrors the way in which Cooper Lawrence was punished for telling lies about Mass Effect, Lieberman's latest book has been mauled in Amazon's user reviews section.

Yesterday, Bad Girls only had six reviews and a five-star user rating. Today, it has thirty-seven, with a two-star rating. A childish recourse, yes, but it actually worked against Lawrence, and maybe it will teach Lieberman that spouting off ignorant bullshit for the salivation of FOX readers does have repercussions. 

"I have it on high authority that people reading books with sexy leg outlines tends to lead to a rise in rape victims," reads one review. "Most of these victims never even saw it coming. They were casually in a store aisle questioning what millions see in Twilight when all the sudden, rape happens. Not even the fancy romantic rape, with months and months of stalking. Nope, just pure sudden rape. Must be those videogames."

Another review called the book "Mein Kampf meets Playboy." It would appear that, while videogames do not cause rape, slagging videogames off without evidence or logic can lead to you getting forcefully f*cked in the ass.








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Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:03
Qraze
history repeats itself once again. when will these people know that lying attracts liars, just as honey attracts ants.
theboyks's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:04
theboyks
lols
BlastChamberEnthusiast's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:06
BlastChamberEnthusiast
Yeah, luring gamers to make casual rape jokes with someone they disagree with is the way to deal with this. Sure.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:07
Fugly Duckling
It's things like this that make me hope they never learn.
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:08
SKSith
"Not even the fancy romantic rape" Hahahahahahahahaha!
KINGof210's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:09
KINGof210
Um, GO INTERNET!
klemoib's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:09
klemoib
I know this is silly and juvenile, but... XD
ShadeOfLight's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:09
ShadeOfLight
Because that is surely the best way to deal with a situation like this and will in no way make people look down on games and gamers even more.
DEG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:10
DEG
Forcible rape or just rapish?
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:13
Tristrix
Lifting a quote from Jim's article on the Mass Effect fiasco:

"I fully understand what some of you must be thinking -- that this is "stooping to her level," and potentially making gamers look bad. Perhaps it is and perhaps we should strive to be eloquent and intelligent, but let's face it, that didn't get poor Geoff Keighley very far. This kind of movement is something that these miserable hacks actually understand, and I'm not going to condemn a bit of good old-fashioned karma. Cooper Lawrence deserves this."

Jim is right. And Carol Lieberman deserves this, too.
BlastChamberEnthusiast's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:15
BlastChamberEnthusiast
All the intelligence of a Newgrounds comment thread. 'TEH RAPEZ0RZ XD XD XD XD'. And you wonder why no one respects your hobby, or most likely, you. I'm not some paragon of maturity, but seriously, grow the fuck up guys.
GoofierBrute's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:15
GoofierBrute
"I have it on high authority that people reading books with sexy leg outlines tends to lead to a rise in rape victims," reads one review. "Most of these victims never even saw it coming. They were casually in a store aisle questioning what millions see in Twilight when all the sudden, rape happens. Not even the fancy romantic rape, with months and months of stalking. Nope, just pure sudden rape. Must be those videogames."

This quote alone has made my day.
BurnPianoBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:17
BurnPianoBurn
Playing Mickey Mousecapade on NES made me do a sudden rape once
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:19
Gaidenrider
Please someone upload an image of Shigeru Miyamoto flipping his middle finger. I had it put up with my real name and I had to put it down :/
T3HM0RR0W's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:20
T3HM0RR0W
God bless Teh Interwebz. Now, ima go rape something because of them vidja games.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:22
LsTr Of SmG
Funny as some of those comments are (I'm a particular fan of the Twilight one) this isn't the way to deal with people like this. If anything it just helps them to validate their opinion of gamers.

Yes it might have been funny, but way to let the side down.
WhiteZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:23
WhiteZombie
just reviewed the book as terrible. i feel like justice has been served. go dtoiders go!
Mortrialus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:24
Mortrialus
"Most of these victims never even saw it coming. They were casually in a store aisle questioning what millions see in Twilight when all the sudden, rape happens. Not even the fancy romantic rape, with months and months of stalking. Nope, just pure sudden rape. Must be those videogames."

That shouldn't be as funny as it was.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:24
Mr Andy Dixon
Hilarious.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:27
ProperlyParanoid
Meh, doesn't seem like writing fake Amazon reviews for crappy books is a good way to waste time.

Also, that headline tricked me for a second.
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:28
Stephen Beirne
I agree with LsTr. This is funny but stupid and regressive.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:29
Jim Sterling
I don't think acting childish matters when acting adult will not convince people that you're anything but a child.
theinvigorator's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:29
theinvigorator
I like fox news but I agree this story was bullshit. In these days everything gets blamed on videogames. Of course it can't be violent movies, tv shows or that crap called twilight.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:31
Mr Andy Dixon
PS - She's up to 43 reviews and down to a 1.7 star rating. Writing mine now...
acsguitar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:31
acsguitar
Time to log in to my amazon account
lastdual's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:31
lastdual
Sadly, this kind of immature nonsense just makes gamers look worse.
Sam420's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:31
Sam420
leave it to sterling to report on the most stupid bullshit ever...
Popyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:34
Popyman
Idiots, don't write more! How do you think this makes gamers look?
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:35
timtheterrible
@ Blast

If a man appeared on a nationally syndicated news network and stated that evidence has shown that violent videogames increase the murder rate of the nations in which they are sold, provided no source for his information, and was actually proven to have completely fabricated his evidence in light of actual murder statistics, would you feel the same way about people giving poor reviews to a book of his featuring a man loading a handgun on the cover?

Since this woman's outright untruths will never be recognized or discussed on a platform as large as Fox News, people vent their frustration at the situation by publicly questioning her credibility as a presenter of information via product reviews, as well as warning potential purchasers that she has publicly shown a disregard for facts if they get in the way of the point that she wishes to make.
phoebus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:35
phoebus
BUT YOU GUISE MAKAN JOKES ABOUT RAPE IS DEFANATLY EQUIVALENT TO ACTUAL RAPE SO THEIYRE JUST PROVAN HER RITE!1
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:36
Jim Sterling
Sam420:

Yet 90% of your comments are on "the most stupid bullshit ever" which kind of makes you an obsessive eater of shit.
Shinta 2's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:36
Shinta 2
You guys are criminally ignorant. Bulletstorm may not lead to a rise in rape, but the game is a good indication of where gamers are at these days. You guys have been on a campaign for two or three years to make "rape" into a hilarious joke of a word. You all are going out of your way to take one of the most serious crimes imaginable, and turn delegitimize it and make light of it. It's common slang now among gamers on Xbox Live, and this ignorant, disgusting element of gamer culture probably does lead to more rape.

Way to promote rape nonstop. You guys are fucking idiots. It's not Bulletstorm leading to more rapes, it's you fools.
Eric Nicholas Reed's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:37
Eric Nicholas Reed
Some hacker out there should make it so anyone who buys this book gets sent Jane McGonigal's "Reality is Broken" instead.
Talía's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:38
Talía
It is inmature...but hey, she started it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:39
Jim Sterling
Shinta 2:

Pfft, I think it does a greater disservice to rape to blame any old pet peeve on it. "I don't like games, it causes rape" is more damaging than any jokes, because it truly does belittle the crime and turns it into something that just anybody is prepared to do.
Tye The Czar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:39
Tye The Czar
For the record, It was first a conservative blogger: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/01/11/conservative-site-charges-explicitly-graphic-sexual-intercourse-in-mass-effect
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/01/14/conservative-blogger-claims-mass-effect-offers-customizable-sodomy
The story then somehow made it to Fox Propaganda, who brought on a random author to convince people that, since an author is slamming the game, that means she's probably right.
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/01/22/1993
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:39
LsTr Of SmG
"I don't think acting childish matters when acting adult will not convince people that you're anything but a child."

Agreed, but consider how it looks to someone from the outside. It doesn't help the cause, it only makes the people targeted more set in their ways.

I'm not saying trying to open a mature, intellectual discourse with these people is going to go anywhere either, but acting like this is akin to throwing your toys out of the pram. It just makes both parties look stupid.

(Though I'm STILL chuckling at the Twilight quote.)
JynxShot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:40
JynxShot
Not the most eloquent response, but dammit if I didn't smile anyway.
phoebus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:41
phoebus
Of course, all they're really doing is throwing her own arguments back in her face, so I don't see how they can come out looking any worse.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:41
Aurain
Rape jokes are the best because people have no sense of humour.
wupperbayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:42
wupperbayer
Yes, it's actually childish, and yes, it probably won't help let the likes of Ms. Lieberman look better at games and gamers. But seriously, do you think any other behavior or even reasoning with her would do any better? If you're willing to be completely ignorant on a topic and *still* comment on it, you're certainly not willing to learn something about it. Those people don't *want* to be informed about what video games are. If they would, they could - it isn't that you need to be in some special club you don't talk about to get to know the mysteries of video games. Just ask your friggin' kids if you have some.

And thus I see no reason whatsoever to act reasonable towards these people. Because that won't change anything, so let's have a bit of fun at least ;)
T3HM0RR0W's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:42
T3HM0RR0W
Actual Excerpt:

"FACT: the author gets her research for this book by achieving multiple real-life "rear entry" skill shots."
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:43
Mr Andy Dixon
@Shinta 2

You guys have been on a campaign for two or three years to make "rape" into a hilarious joke of a word. You all are going out of your way to take one of the most serious crimes imaginable, and turn delegitimize it and make light of it ... Way to promote rape nonstop. You guys are fucking idiots. It's not Bulletstorm leading to more rapes, it's you fools.

Do you really think women get raped because the rapists think it's "funny"?

Fucking please.
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:44
flea friend
Apparently no one learned their lesson the first time this happened. Except for gamers, who picked up on the fact that fighting fire with fire seems to work in this case.

Finally, rape is being used for something positive.
scouserboots's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:44
scouserboots
I am not sure where the author got her conclusion from. Is she talking from personal experience in the way she feels after playing a video game with sexual content in it? I really don't see any connection at all. I know Japan has a thing for the more sexual themed games, but here in North America and in Europe the games tend to be slaughtered to hell and back if there is any indication of sexual content by the idiots that work for the ratings board or whatever it is called. I don't even think you can associate any entertainment with the act of promoting rape. I think it is due to something much deeper to do with the personality of the individual that performs the crime of rape.

Its amazing how these idiots who paint video gaming, or any other entertainment with all life's problems and faults. When in reality what they need to focus on is the real problem, the one's who commit the crimes, and stop trying to make money from being a dick by causing a reaction from a popular source and getting your fucking asswipe book noticed in the media.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:44
LsTr Of SmG
@ Shinta 2,

"Way to promote rape nonstop. You guys are fucking idiots. It's not Bulletstorm leading to more rapes, it's you fools."

I disagree you're presenting a logical fallacy. Talking about rape, even joking about rape, does not directly cause rape - particularly when the jokes in question refer to rape as a negative act.

For example, by your logic Black people (or any other racial minority) wouldn't be allowed to make jokes about racists.

Joking about something removes some of the fear around it. Of course there are ways of joking and types of jokes that work to achieve the opposite, but I see few of these types of jokes being used here.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:45
DAVYDOCK
( Internet people ) "Yay we win guys! HIGH FIVE!! ...........uh..high..five?" ( Nobody to do it to )

Go out into the sun you crusty bastards.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:46
LsTr Of SmG
Missed a couple of commas there, apologies. On my break and thusly trying to jam my D-toid fix in quickly.
hanowyoucantseeme's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:46
hanowyoucantseeme
So while I Disagree with her nonsense I do tend to think games like "rapelay" and other games that are more sim dating/sex can attribute something to feeding a sexual deviants behavior. Now what playing those games does to people in reality on what they do or don't do is subjective and honestly unmeasurable but I still feel it does something to the player on some level.

Other than that type of exception of games theres no way I'd ever agree with the author because I believe in the choices we make as individuals far out weigh those done out confusion or being affected by a game in a negative manner.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2011 11:47
timtheterrible
"It's not Bulletstorm leading to more rapes, it's you fools."

I've been posting here since late 2007, visiting the site on nearly a daily basis and commenting fairly regularly on a broad range of news stories and opinion pieces. I only say this so that you can gain a better understanding for what I am about to say: what you have just written is, by far, the stupidest, most ill-conceived excuse for a thought I've ever seen posted on this site.
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