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"I still don't see how first-person shooters will be any fun on that hulking controller."
That hulking controller that we haven't seen the final version of yet and that the majority of the ones who have played it have said isn't annoying to play with.
That hulking controller that we haven't seen the final version of yet and that the majority of the ones who have played it have said isn't annoying to play with.
Uh huh, I'll believe the PC version is properly supported when the beginning menu doesn't tell me to press start to begin. Ow yes kindly don't rip off the cod MP again and bring back power struggle.
Mind you I'm not exactly a fan of the WiiU but he's talking about the Xbox controllers right? you could anchor a boat with those things. Seriously tho last time I visited the rumor mill it sounded like you could use the Wii controllers on the WiiU and those are hardly hulking.
Or is this more of a "QQ I don't wanna remap buttons" sorta thing?
Or is this more of a "QQ I don't wanna remap buttons" sorta thing?
@Spaz
"Ow yes kindly don't rip off the cod MP again and bring back power struggle."
"bring back power struggle."
"power struggle."
Fuck.
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nJkM-_QgjQ
"Ow yes kindly don't rip off the cod MP again and bring back power struggle."
"bring back power struggle."
"power struggle."
Fuck.
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nJkM-_QgjQ
@Scuffles: That's not a rumor, you can use the Wiimotes on the Wii U. That doesn't change anything for me though. Give me a mouse/keyboard or controller for my FPSes
I'm with Hamza for Mouse and Keyboard, but I'd rather FPS games just not appear on consoles. Controllers don't do them justice, whether they be Wii U prototypes or even current gen 360/PS3 things. Shooters just suck on consoles.
@Hamza CTZ Aziz
By all means I fully agree with the mouse/keyboard approach. Never personally been a fan of controllers of any type when it comes to FPS.
By all means I fully agree with the mouse/keyboard approach. Never personally been a fan of controllers of any type when it comes to FPS.
"I still don't see how first-person shooters will be any fun on that hulking controller"
if by 'first-person shooters' you mean 'video games' then yes
if by 'first-person shooters' you mean 'video games' then yes
*Imagines HD Zelda on WiiU*
*compares this to not getting Crysis 3*
Yeah...for some reason I'm pretty sure that I'll live.
*compares this to not getting Crysis 3*
Yeah...for some reason I'm pretty sure that I'll live.
But the controller has all the buttons of a "normal" controller :/ Also, it's quite a bit more powerful than the ps3, 360 and i'm pretty sure Crytek said that the wii U passed their requirements for Next gen consoles so that's kind of gay.
so this boils down to a couple of possibilities, Nintendo under powering it's console again, developers are gonna need to have a bit of time to learn how to develop for the WiiU due to the second screen or a new architecture, EA just doesn't feel like it's worth the time or money, Crytek doesn't feel like it's worth the time or money, etc
whatever reason, I would really like Nintendo to at least have enough power to play multiplatform games/not being easy as fuck to emulate.
whatever reason, I would really like Nintendo to at least have enough power to play multiplatform games/not being easy as fuck to emulate.
Whatever, haters going to hate
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I must say that I am more interested in the WiiU than Crysis 3.
It also sounds like the WiiU will be overflowing with Wii HD remakes.
It also sounds like the WiiU will be overflowing with Wii HD remakes.
Okay, I've said this a million times, but it's not the fact that the wii u controller is "hulking" or that it technically has the same buttons as a traditional controller. The biggest thing are those damn circle pads at the top of the controller. Good luck with first person shooters and fighting game with those things. I know people who have tried the controller have said it was "comfortable" but nobody has actually stated if they can imagine playing street fighter 4 on the thing.
I know that they could use classic controllers as the main control scheme, but even the classic controller doesn't have clickable control sticks. If people say Mouse+keyboard is better than control sticks, then controls sticks are better than circle pads.
I know that they could use classic controllers as the main control scheme, but even the classic controller doesn't have clickable control sticks. If people say Mouse+keyboard is better than control sticks, then controls sticks are better than circle pads.
@Lord of the Thunder
To be fair, that was a pretty awesome game, even though it nicked every gameplay idea from something else.
To be fair, that was a pretty awesome game, even though it nicked every gameplay idea from something else.
More concerned with playing Metroid, Zelda, Pikmin 3 ect. could care less about Crysis not being on my Nintendo...
Last thing. Other than Hamza's stupid comment of the Wii U controller Crytek did say they are very happy with the specs. Unless they aren't planning on bringing it to any other consoles any time soon there really shouldn't be a reason for it to be there. “The specs are very good. It’s a challenge for designers, but once thought through it can add value, and that’s what’s ultimately important. Our guys in Nottingham they are very happy with their tests on the dev kits and they’re excited about it.”
"That hulking controller that we haven't seen the final version of yet and that the majority of the ones who have played it have said isn't annoying to play with."
Final version or not the controller is gonna suck for shooters. That's a guarantee, specially with it's use of nubs and not analog sticks.
Final version or not the controller is gonna suck for shooters. That's a guarantee, specially with it's use of nubs and not analog sticks.
@zombiedsz
sort of agree'd but unfortunately that's the attitude that makes it so that Nintendo will probably always be the console people only buy for first party games.
I know people are defending Wii U by saying "No crisis 3? I'll live, didn't want to play it anyway" but the more third parties Nintendo loses, the faster it's going to go downhill.
sort of agree'd but unfortunately that's the attitude that makes it so that Nintendo will probably always be the console people only buy for first party games.
I know people are defending Wii U by saying "No crisis 3? I'll live, didn't want to play it anyway" but the more third parties Nintendo loses, the faster it's going to go downhill.
For the love of everything good and holy in this world, why are people still ignoring the CONFIRMED FACT that the Wii Remote and ALL OF ITS ACCESSORIES are compatible with the Wii U? Why in the holy hell would you NOT be able to play a shooter without the Nunchuk or Classic Controller?
My God. I've seen people blatantly ignore facts about next-gen systems when it comes to yet-to-be-released hardware, but people commenting on the Wii U's controller has been like a tragedy unfolding on stage.
My God. I've seen people blatantly ignore facts about next-gen systems when it comes to yet-to-be-released hardware, but people commenting on the Wii U's controller has been like a tragedy unfolding on stage.
@llort het
I see where you are coming from, but that's kinda how its been the last couple of gens anyway. 1st party games push the hardware and I don't see Nintendo changing entirely for the Wii-U either.
What we have so far though is alot more 3rd party support than Nintendo's had in forever so its still alot to be excited about. Crysis though, could hardly be considered a loss considering most people who care about it would rather play it on their high end DirectX11 rigs anyway.
I see where you are coming from, but that's kinda how its been the last couple of gens anyway. 1st party games push the hardware and I don't see Nintendo changing entirely for the Wii-U either.
What we have so far though is alot more 3rd party support than Nintendo's had in forever so its still alot to be excited about. Crysis though, could hardly be considered a loss considering most people who care about it would rather play it on their high end DirectX11 rigs anyway.
@pedrovay
Part of the reason, for me personally at least, is that I'm not excited to spend another 6 years with the wii remote, and it's not THAT great of an alternative for traditional games. Classic controller is okay, but I'm also not excited about having the classic controller anchored to the wii remote, along with it's non clickable sticks that make a traditional console/pc more appealing.
Along with the fact that developers may not even choose to use the wii remote/classic controller. The wii could technically use gamecube controller and classic controllers, but 99 percent of games opted for the wii remote anyways, even if it was the worst control scheme. If nintendo really is trying to "bring together hardcore and casual gamers" making that tablet the default controller is a bad way to do it. I at least hope that Nintendo will include classic controllers with the Wii U to encourage developers to design for it, and I hope that Nintendo doesn't make the tablet MANDATORY for all of its first party games (although that second point is unlikely)
Part of the reason, for me personally at least, is that I'm not excited to spend another 6 years with the wii remote, and it's not THAT great of an alternative for traditional games. Classic controller is okay, but I'm also not excited about having the classic controller anchored to the wii remote, along with it's non clickable sticks that make a traditional console/pc more appealing.
Along with the fact that developers may not even choose to use the wii remote/classic controller. The wii could technically use gamecube controller and classic controllers, but 99 percent of games opted for the wii remote anyways, even if it was the worst control scheme. If nintendo really is trying to "bring together hardcore and casual gamers" making that tablet the default controller is a bad way to do it. I at least hope that Nintendo will include classic controllers with the Wii U to encourage developers to design for it, and I hope that Nintendo doesn't make the tablet MANDATORY for all of its first party games (although that second point is unlikely)
Oh well. Nintendo fans only want to play nintendo games, anyway.
Everyone else will have a system without a shit controller, or at least the option to ignore gimmicks
Everyone else will have a system without a shit controller, or at least the option to ignore gimmicks
Er...
You do know that Ubisoft is making an exclusive FPS for the Wii U right? The controller is meant to be quite light and could do LOADS for the experience, getting rid of the HUD, maybe using the controller as a scope.
Saying 'fat chance' is dumb, if the games coming out next spring they would have PLENTY of time to port it over. If the Wii U is more powerful than the current systems as it should be, they could do a lot with it. It could be a huge marketing boon for Crytek if they play it right.
Especially if the game doesn't suck ass like Crysis 2 did...
The games plot sounds like a mess. The only thing I'm liking so far is ideas directly taken from other games and films like Turok (bow) and District 9 (use alien weapons because you have alien DNA etc).
@Hamza CTZ Aziz
So much hatin...
:P
@Lord of the Thunder
Darksiders isn't even as good as Okami, nevermind being able to match Zelda.
@pedrovay2003
Yup, people seem to forget that the Wii U can practically do everything the Wii can do and better.
@llort het
I hate the Classic Controller, it's designed like a Sony Dualshock what with the sticks in the wrong place.
Clickable sticks always have been and always shall be a pain in the ass, terrible excuse for a button.
Personally, I'd be surprised if the Wii U didn't come with Wiimote & Nunchuck bundled.
You do know that Ubisoft is making an exclusive FPS for the Wii U right? The controller is meant to be quite light and could do LOADS for the experience, getting rid of the HUD, maybe using the controller as a scope.
Saying 'fat chance' is dumb, if the games coming out next spring they would have PLENTY of time to port it over. If the Wii U is more powerful than the current systems as it should be, they could do a lot with it. It could be a huge marketing boon for Crytek if they play it right.
Especially if the game doesn't suck ass like Crysis 2 did...
The games plot sounds like a mess. The only thing I'm liking so far is ideas directly taken from other games and films like Turok (bow) and District 9 (use alien weapons because you have alien DNA etc).
@Hamza CTZ Aziz
So much hatin...
:P
@Lord of the Thunder
Darksiders isn't even as good as Okami, nevermind being able to match Zelda.
@pedrovay2003
Yup, people seem to forget that the Wii U can practically do everything the Wii can do and better.
@llort het
I hate the Classic Controller, it's designed like a Sony Dualshock what with the sticks in the wrong place.
Clickable sticks always have been and always shall be a pain in the ass, terrible excuse for a button.
Personally, I'd be surprised if the Wii U didn't come with Wiimote & Nunchuck bundled.
Ignoring the more obscure controlers like the razer hydra and the novit falcon the hirachy of modern input systems is like this for first person shooters.
1: keyboard (or similar device and mouse)
2: Ps move/wiimote
----Huge gap----
3: wiiu controller and ps-vita due to their touch screen giving it a little bonus Maybe the vita a little higher than the wiiu because its smaller and it has those pads on the back on the other hand the wiiu has triggers which the vita does not so that would balance things out.
4: conventional Dual analog controls.
5: 3ds/psp controls
---huge gap--
6: touch screens
-----Enormous gap-----
-----Another enormous gap-----
7: Kinect
1: keyboard (or similar device and mouse)
2: Ps move/wiimote
----Huge gap----
3: wiiu controller and ps-vita due to their touch screen giving it a little bonus Maybe the vita a little higher than the wiiu because its smaller and it has those pads on the back on the other hand the wiiu has triggers which the vita does not so that would balance things out.
4: conventional Dual analog controls.
5: 3ds/psp controls
---huge gap--
6: touch screens
-----Enormous gap-----
-----Another enormous gap-----
7: Kinect
this is just my opinion but I think control wise the wii u is better than dual a regular controller due to the option of also using a touch screen and the fact that you can just use a wiimote. Also I know the ps move is clearly more accurate and faster than the wiimote but I am talking about the technique not the actual precision of the controller and the technique is not that different between the two wiimote uses the camera in the controller while the ps move uses the camera on the other side.
Given Crytek's inability to achieve a solid 30fps on 360/PS3, I'd argue that their preemptive abandonment of the Wii U, as well as their stated goal of bringing DirectX 11 features to consoles, is all blustering bullshit.
Crytek couldn't properly optimize their way out of a paper bag let alone achieve a locked 60fps on any given hardware outside of theoretical 'future tech' where they are, conveniently, never held to it.
Just sayin'
Crytek couldn't properly optimize their way out of a paper bag let alone achieve a locked 60fps on any given hardware outside of theoretical 'future tech' where they are, conveniently, never held to it.
Just sayin'
Well that is dumb, but then again I have not gotten to play any of Crisis games so there really is not much to miss.
Where the hell is Time Splitters 4? That's what I want to know!
Where the hell is Time Splitters 4? That's what I want to know!
Crysis 3 not coming to the WiiU isn't a crisis worth getting worried over. It's probably for the best. Keep it away from a new system and instead put it on the PC where 5 million people will pirate it.
That's a stupid thing to say. Everyone that has tried the WiiU controller has been impressed with how comfortable to use and lightweight it is. It has all the necessary buttons for FPS and also has the added bonus of off screen menus. Hamza's been smoking crack again.
HAHAHAHAHAH, CRYSIS3 on the WII U? LOL - Crysis 1 wouldn't even go to the WII U.
Nintendo fans will be playing mario and zelda only for the next X # of years and that's about it.
peeee u
Nintendo fans will be playing mario and zelda only for the next X # of years and that's about it.
peeee u
@llort het
I agree with 100% of what you said. I just hate when people assume EVERY SINGLE WII U GAME will use the tablet. Hell, that game with the Miis already showed four people using the Remote and Nunchuk combo, while a fifth person used the tablet.
And I do agree, tethered Classic Controller is a pain. On the other hand, I think it may be the most comfortable traditional controller I've ever used -- I'd take it over the PS3 or 360 controller any day of the week. Then again, I still say the best FPS control scheme I've ever used on ANY platform was in Metroid Prime 3.
I agree with 100% of what you said. I just hate when people assume EVERY SINGLE WII U GAME will use the tablet. Hell, that game with the Miis already showed four people using the Remote and Nunchuk combo, while a fifth person used the tablet.
And I do agree, tethered Classic Controller is a pain. On the other hand, I think it may be the most comfortable traditional controller I've ever used -- I'd take it over the PS3 or 360 controller any day of the week. Then again, I still say the best FPS control scheme I've ever used on ANY platform was in Metroid Prime 3.
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